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1 minute ago, co_springs_billsfan said:

We still needed 6 other teams to be stupid in front of us.  Actually, that was probably part of Beane's wizardry

Gotta give the Browns and Jets a pass here IMO.  I wanted the Bills to draft Allen because he was obviously the "swing for the fences" pick in that draft, but at the time it was very common for people to have Darnold and Mayfield ahead of him.  Heck, throw in Wrong Josh while you're at it.  

 

I still can't believe the Giants and Broncos passed on QBs in the draft.  Those were stupid teams.

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6 minutes ago, K-9 said:

You can if you have a Brandon Beane weaving his magic. We were coming off a 9-7 season and a playoff birth and went from 21 to 7 to in the draft to get us over that QB hump. 

 

3 minutes ago, co_springs_billsfan said:

We still needed 6 other teams to be stupid in front of us.  Actually, that was probably part of Beane's wizardry

 

Beane pulled an Obi-Wan on the other GMs who were thinking about Josh. "This is not the QB you're looking for."

 

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1 minute ago, co_springs_billsfan said:

We still needed 6 other teams to be stupid in front of us.  Actually, that was probably part of Beane's wizardry

Nope. Those teams were geniuses at the time. I honestly don’t recall a single talking head lamenting the fact that any if those six teams passed on Josh Allen at the time. Hell, half of them still can’t admit they were wrong about Josh. 

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I think with Tua, there is a middle ground between Dolphin fans saying he was MVP caliber earlier in the year and them wanting to burn his jersey now.

 

How about this, Tua is better than last year. Tua is an overall slightly above average QB. But he's not very good let alone great. The weapons they brought in for him are helping him look better overall.  I don't think its any more complicated than that.

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34 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Hope this humbles some of the Miami fans. They were talking mad crazy shi# for awhile now. Tua MVP, winning the AFC east, and going to the Super Bowl.  


Literally yesterday I had a Fins fan tell me “see you in three weeks.”  LOL

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43 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Hope this humbles some of the Miami fans. They were talking mad crazy shi# for awhile now. Tua MVP, winning the AFC east, and going to the Super Bowl.  

Not going to happen.  Very few fanbases, very few people are humbled anymore. As a defense mechanism, they will say or do anything other than admit being wrong or being humble. Some of what I expect Miami fans to say:

 

-He still has some better stats than Allen...

-We'll be laughing when Buffalo loses to KC again

-Our team is better in every other way. Plus we live in Miami, Brady/Rodgers/Anybody we want will come here and then we'll beat you both times next year

-We live in Miami (posts pictures of beach with palm trees), you live in Buffalo (posts pictures of snow) so we win (of course it is a defense mechanism for their ego, many of us USED to live in Florida and moved away because we hate the 7 months of oppressive heat)

-its the Refs fault (just because EVERY fanbase has people who say that the whole time)

-Our HC is young, he needs to learn, but when he does he'll be great.

-Get Tua out of here, If it wasn't for him we'd be undefeated with the rest of this team!

 

They might, MIGHT admit they aren't as good as they want to each other, or on their own forum (where of course no other fanbase will ever read) but if you confront them as a 'non dolphins fan', you'll get some variation of the above.

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28 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

This is what the Bills suffered through in the drought years. 8-8 is hell because you can never get past the QB hump.

Yep. Tua and Mac are the best kind of QB's to have in the division. Just good enough to keep inept management from committing to a replacement but never good enough to be an actual threat. Wilson, unfortunately, was so bad the Jets will actually upgrade. 

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Just now, pigpen65 said:

Yep. Tua and Mac are the best kind of QB's to have in the division. Just good enough to keep inept management from committing to a replacement but never good enough to be an actual threat. Wilson, unfortunately, was so bad the Jets will actually upgrade. 

Dolphins will keep Tua for at least another year.  Not so sure about Jones.  He’s looked really bad without a top notch running game, which they had last year but not this year.  I could see them moving on this off season.  

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2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Dolphins will keep Tua for at least another year.  Not so sure about Jones.  He’s looked really bad without a top notch running game, which they had last year but not this year.  I could see them moving on this off season.  


Is it me or is the run game the only thing that’s kind of working? Stevenson is their only playmaker (tho he does fumble at bad times).

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