NewEra Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 7 hours ago, Nephilim17 said: Becoming very good. If and when he get 14 or more sacks that's top-5 and elite to me. That’s ridiculous. He’s missed 3.5 games. You’re saying that he can never reach elite status if he misses a handful of games each year due to injury. in the last 20 years, how many players have been top 5 in sacks after missing more than 3 games? 2- a juiced up Shawn Merriman and a probably juiced up clay Matthews. Rousseau is a dominant force rushing the passer…..and is even better vs the run. He’s borderline elite right now based on his play in 2022. 7 sacks in 9.5 games while being one of the best run stoppers around. I just hope we can afford the 30M+ aav contract he’s going to get in 3 years. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 ...and who here said Beane's draft picks were busts? C'mon, out yourself's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, NewEra said: That’s ridiculous. He’s missed 3.5 games. You’re saying that he can never reach elite status if he misses a handful of games each year due to injury. in the last 20 years, how many players have been top 5 in sacks after missing more than 3 games? 2- a juiced up Shawn Merriman and a probably juiced up clay Matthews. Rousseau is a dominant force rushing the passer…..and is even better vs the run. He’s borderline elite right now based on his play in 2022. 7 sacks in 9.5 games while being one of the best run stoppers around. I just hope we can afford the 30M+ aav contract he’s going to get in 3 years. Cool your jets. I didn't remember that. I still maintain he's more at the "very good" rather than elite level but he may get there soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 He’s a good above average starter on his way to becoming great with elite potential. Between his current career trajectory, style of play, likelihood to stick around for a while, personality, and my own love of the MCU and therefore anything Groot-related… I think a front runner for my next jersey purchase has emerged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 22 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: Cool your jets. I didn't remember that. I still maintain he's more at the "very good" rather than elite level but he may get there soon enough. That’s why everyone said he’s a very good player that, if he continues to play at this level, will become elite. His play has been all pro level imo. In the first meeting, the jets had 3 points when he left with injury. They scored 17 after he left and did a ton of damage on the right side. He was sorely missed the second he left. Then we lose the Vikings game, with him out. I think we win both games if he didn’t get injured. he’s developing into a special player, get used to it. 4 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: He’s a good above average starter on his way to becoming great with elite potential. Between his current career trajectory, style of play, likelihood to stick around for a while, personality, and my own love of the MCU and therefore anything Groot-related… I think a front runner for my next jersey purchase has emerged. He’s not an “above average starter” right now. Watch him on every snap- he’s a monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Westside said: You can say that about every team. They all have the same issues. Injuries, slumps, etc. It’s a long season made even longer since last year. KC almost lost to Denver. Miami lost to the chargers. No team really looks dominant this year. We have just a good a shot as any team to win it all. the Eagles look pretty dominant so far but that can change come playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 22 hours ago, KzooMike said: 7 sacks in 10 starts this season. His length is disruptive. You cant get into his radius and come out ok. He seems to have a really good head on his shoulders. Has said he keeps learning from Von. I wonder how many sacks Von has added by just training with our line? My guess would be at least 5. Groot looks like he will become a force Credit where credit is due... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 22 hours ago, KzooMike said: 7 sacks in 10 starts this season. His length is disruptive. You cant get into his radius and come out ok. He seems to have a really good head on his shoulders. Has said he keeps learning from Von. I wonder how many sacks Von has added by just training with our line? My guess would be at least 5. Groot looks like he will become a force But , but Boogie is more NFL ready !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: He’s not an “above average starter” right now. Watch him on every snap- he’s a monster. Above average starter means he’s - what - a top 20-30 NFL DE? I think it’s fair to place him there until he sustains his production over a longer span of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Above average starter means he’s - what - a top 20-30 NFL DE? I think it’s fair to place him there until he sustains his production over a longer span of time. He's been manhandling NFL Tackles on the edge for two years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, TPS said: Credit where credit is due... I still feel good about this prediction. If it wasn’t for the injury he’d definitely be at or past double digits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Simon said: He's been manhandling NFL Tackles on the edge for two years now. Where do you rank him among DEs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, JohnBonhamRocks said: Where do you rank him among DEs? Very high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 23 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Did not know he had 7 sacks this year. Pretty impressive. I think he makes the leap into the elite category next year, but he is looking mighty good. Great draft pick In only 10 starts, and he missed games to the ankle sprain, which slows you for a while when you try to come back. Von may be right about his ceiling. That’s a GREAT thing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 He showed a nice burst vs. the Jets…👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Simon said: Very high 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 hours ago, NewEra said: That’s ridiculous. He’s missed 3.5 games. You’re saying that he can never reach elite status if he misses a handful of games each year due to injury. in the last 20 years, how many players have been top 5 in sacks after missing more than 3 games? 2- a juiced up Shawn Merriman and a probably juiced up clay Matthews. Rousseau is a dominant force rushing the passer…..and is even better vs the run. He’s borderline elite right now based on his play in 2022. 7 sacks in 9.5 games while being one of the best run stoppers around. I just hope we can afford the 30M+ aav contract he’s going to get in 3 years. Yep, Groot's going to break the bank... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 36 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: He’s a good above average starter on his way to becoming great with elite potential. Between his current career trajectory, style of play, likelihood to stick around for a while, personality, and my own love of the MCU and therefore anything Groot-related… I think a front runner for my next jersey purchase has emerged. Part of me is hoping Von sticks around a little longer than expected, just to rub off on him more. It seems they have ALL benefited from Von’s presence. I know, there is only so much money, but Groot is young. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 22 hours ago, Southern_Bills said: Pass rushers don't usually hit immediately, I think he is well on his way. His length will be an issue for opponents. I really hope he becomes a Bosa type player that makes an impact week in week out. Even Bruce Smith wasn't HoF Bruce his rookie year. He grew into his dominate play as he learned how to train his body to work as well as it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, mannc said: Yep, Groot's going to break the bank... That was what Bruce used to do, and it turned out OK. Worth every penny of MY money! 😋 I kid, winning makes you wealthier. Groot will help you win. GREAT pick IMO. Fun guy to watch, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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