NFL Week #3 - Bills at the Dolphins - Post game thread

[DCbillsfan]

17 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

You can’t play like Buffalo has and then shout excuses when you lose. 
90% of the social media crowd is gross anyways. Refs, weather and injuries are the worst excuses in a winnable game. I think anyone with half a brain knows Buffalo played short handed but still had plenty of chances to put that game away. It is what it is. 

IIRC Eric Wood said it was 112 degrees on the field today.  I'm not making it an excuse but that's a home field advantage that's unrivaled in the NFL.  

 

[boyst]

8 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I am not sure - as @BADOLBILZ and others have pointed out, losing 8 close games in a row is not random.  It’s a mentality.  McD may lack that killer instinct or just have a poor overall feel for game flow - he takes his foot off the gas at the craziest moments.  Not just 13 seconds, this has happened repeatedly.  Case in point today, the Bills force a punt at a key moment early in the game and then rather than go for the jugular, they call timeout before the punt, then call two Moss runs for zero yards and get a play in late resulting in a fumble.  You KNOW the decision to run up the middle twice was all McD - he probably thought he’d “reward” his defense for getting the stop by buying them some rest with clock-eating nonsense.  We saw that crap with Frank Gore in 2017.  That was the time to press and instead we gifted the Dolphins a score.

 

McDermott is a fantastic program builder but that may just be his ceiling.  It’s the same in business, there are CEOs who specialize in turning around failing companies and they’re almost always parachuted out once the business has stabilized, and replaced with a visionary who can get the company to the next level.  If the Bills fall short in ‘22 and ‘23 (meaning anything less than a Lombardi) then it is time to cut bait.  Squandering Josh Allen’s prime years would be a war crime.

The concern in these losses is how everyone has all the other excuses and they're valid 

 

The heat, the injuries, the concussion on Tua... 

[ScottLaw]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

 

They played a struggling Patriots, took advantage of busted coverage from a depleted secondary versus the Ravens then overcame an injury ridden Bills because the latter gifted them the game.

They are a playoff team… do they beat us out for the division? Not unless Josh is out long term. 
 

My concern isn’t the Dolphins. It’s the 1 seed…. And more blown games like today they will ***** that up for sure.

[Aussie Joe]

17 minutes ago, Rick 'r Mortis said:

Weather isn't on my radar as an excuse today. That being said, you can not compare the heat and humidity to the cold.

The weather today does things to the body not seen even in the bitter cold .

 

But they still should have won

[DCbillsfan]

14 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

I wish it was a long time.. I can think back to Bucs, Jax and Titans games only last year

 

They still had plenty of time to get 40 yards,,,

Don't forget that Colts game last year!

[3rdand12]

5 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

The Sky pundits reviewed Dorsey's explosion at the end and showed the play - all agreed McKenzie should have been able to get out of bounds within the time limit.

he was gassed. as they all were.

[boater]

21 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

41 minutes top, 19 points…..

31 first downs, 19 points….

11-18 on third down, 2-3 on fourth, 19 points….

1 punt, 19 points….

500 yards of offense, 19 points…. 

Clever. Are you trying to start a new meme right up there with 13 seconds, wide right and Music City miracle?

 

19 points. Quick, get your trademark application into the Patent Office.

[Aussie Joe]

2 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said:

Don't forget that Colts game last year!

 

They copped a flogging in the Colts game last year... it was their worst performance of the season,,,

Edited September 25, 2022 by Aussie Joe

[ScottLaw]

1 minute ago, 3rdand12 said:

he was gassed. as they all were.

Eh. McKenzie is a knucklehead and lacks some football smarts IMO.

[3rdand12]

3 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

The concern in these losses is how everyone has all the other excuses and they're valid 

 

The heat, the injuries, the concussion on Tua... 

one of the most exciting Games I have watched in awhile

hell of a chess match. But the ending was wild

 never turn off the Game when Josh is playing
Go Bills

 helluva game !

[Rc2catch]

1 minute ago, DCbillsfan said:

IIRC Eric Wood said it was 112 degrees on the field today.  I'm not making it an excuse but that's a home field advantage that's unrivaled in the NFL.  

 

I would disagree. You know what you’re getting into going there every year. 60+ pass attempts it’s not a big surprise your receivers can’t run anymore in the 4th quarter. 
Especially when there’s only 4 of them after Kumerow is hurt. 
They lost this game. Weather is weather everyone has to deal with it. Their defense was on the field all day in the heat as well. 

[3rdand12]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

Eh. McKenzie is a knucklehead and lacks some football smarts IMO.

he is fast enough. but had nothing left to get outside or turn the corner as expected

[Talley56]

On top of all of this, I picked the Chargers in my eliminator.  Looks like I'm about to be eliminated.  This week sucks.

[WideNine]

28 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I am not sure - as @BADOLBILZ and others have pointed out, losing 8 close games in a row is not random.  It’s a mentality.  McD may lack that killer instinct or just have a poor overall feel for game flow - he takes his foot off the gas at the craziest moments.  Not just 13 seconds, this has happened repeatedly.  Case in point today, the Bills force a punt at a key moment early in the game and then rather than go for the jugular, they call timeout before the punt, then call two Moss runs for zero yards and get a play in late resulting in a fumble.  You KNOW the decision to run up the middle twice was all McD - he probably thought he’d “reward” his defense for getting the stop by buying them some rest with clock-eating nonsense.  We saw that crap with Frank Gore in 2017.  That was the time to press and instead we gifted the Dolphins a score.

 

McDermott is a fantastic program builder but that may just be his ceiling.  It’s the same in business, there are CEOs who specialize in turning around failing companies and they’re almost always parachuted out once the business has stabilized, and replaced with a visionary who can get the company to the next level.  If the Bills fall short in ‘22 and ‘23 (meaning anything less than a Lombardi) then it is time to cut bait.  Squandering Josh Allen’s prime years would be a war crime.

 

Could be onto something.

 

Or it could be correlation does not necessarily mean causation. Not dismissing it.

 

Losing close games where you are behind is a different animal than losing close games where you are ahead. Both do require excellent clock management to pull out a win.

 

Not sure how we go for the jugular on this one with both Diggs and Davis hobbled, but I do feel there is a play it safe mentality that sets in when we have an edge that often backfires.

 

I try to balance that out with how many times McD now goes for it on 4th down. The early McD would never have done that.

 

Too many injuries and injured players playing for me to assess this game. The only coaching decision I hated was the 3rd and 22 call that sent 3 after our d-line was dominating the LOS. Allowed Tua all day to look for Hill or Waddle.

 

The analytics show when Tua has time he becomes pretty darn accurate. Bad way to play the odds.

 

 

 

Edited September 25, 2022 by WideNine

[MAJBobby]

It is what it is. 
 

didn’t make enough plays to win from our High scoring offense and the fins did. 
 

week 3 Division slightest to MIA. 
 

regroup for Baltimore. 

[DCbillsfan]

5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

They copped a flogging in the Colts game last year... it was their worst performance of the season,,,

It was terrible.  And the Patriots Monday night game was pretty bad too.  It amazes me how this team can look like World beaters one week and then have real clunkers.

[Luka]

Players could not execute today. Nothing to do with coaching. We had multiple, multiple opportunities to win this game. Milano drops a pick 6, Gabe Davis drops a TD, Allen skips a pass to a wide open McKenzie which would've been a TD, Bass misses a field goal... that's 24 points right there. And if that's not enough McKenzie for some reason decides to stay in bounds with no time outs left which would've set up a game winning field goal chance. 

Not sure how all that equates to "coaching." 

[3rdand12]

Just now, Rc2catch said:

I would disagree. You know what you’re getting into going there every year. 60+ pass attempts it’s not a big surprise your receivers can’t run anymore in the 4th quarter. 
Especially when there’s only 4 of them after Kumerow is hurt. 
They lost this game. Weather is weather everyone has to deal with it. Their defense was on the field all day in the heat as well. 

Just to point out as the announcers did
The Home Team gets all the sideline shade and the Away team gets full on sun all game , by design of the stadium addition they did. Its an advantage.

[fergie's ire]

47 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

2nd game in a row that Josh has tossed a ball into the ground on a simple short pass to the sideline.  Let’s hope this trend doesn’t continue. 

They were looking at his hand on the sideline, but it looked to me like the toe on his lead foot got stuck in the turf as he tried to step into the throw causing it to go into the dirt.

 

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

I would disagree. You know what you’re getting into going there every year. 60+ pass attempts it’s not a big surprise your receivers can’t run anymore in the 4th quarter. 
Especially when there’s only 4 of them after Kumerow is hurt. 
They lost this game. Weather is weather everyone has to deal with it. Their defense was on the field all day in the heat as well. 

 

They live and practice it in all the time...big difference. The body cannot adjust to that in one day.