muppy Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Getting snarky in here. Right, wrong or indifferent, it’s over. Draw the curtain. Hold the door please 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 hour ago, CountDorkula said: DeShaun Watson was also found innocent.......... so......... Yeah, but he plays for the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, UKBillFan said: Or, as stated elsewhere, they were always going to move on from Haack. Either Araiza would punt or they were happy enough that some of those under free agency/waivers would be an upgrade. Or they were satisfied with Araiza’s initial response/explanation but found out later he lied about part of it. We may never know and there are parts that shouldn’t be public until the appropriate time. Criminal cases outweigh civil which outweigh fans “need to know” by miles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 If this was a cash grab, it sure didn’t shape up well for the accusers attorney. Araiza won’t have much to go after now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just now, Bermuda Triangle said: maybe that was the plan. I guess we'll never know for sure. Cynically, did we cut Haack when we did to see if being named as the punter would result in a civil case against Araiza, giving us enough time to sort things out prior to the 53 man cut and additional players available via the waivers if need be? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: Sex assault cases are notoriously difficult to prosecute. The statistics are overwhelming. She if anything was beaten. She called the 3 guys she’s accusing 10 days after it happened. Anyone who does something like that, gets accused of rape or even assault usually gets charged criminally relatively quick. It’s not like she didn’t know who did this. She accused those 3 within days. With that kind of “evidence” why would it take almost a year to just file a civil suit? What does SDPD know is my question? What evidence do they have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 15 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: I loved Araiza but he's not consistently a 80 yard kicker. He did that once in preseason, twice in college. He averaged 52 yards in college, so, though impressive, this doesn't equate to consistent 80 yarders. We'll pick up someone who averages 45-47 and will be fine. There's also the point that I heard questions about whether he could kick directionally and kick short, to pin a team deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: The dilemma here is... He's talented and a punter who can kick consistently 80 yards is a game breaker. Changer. Sad... Sad? What makes you sad here is that a punter got cut? If this is truly a sad situation then Araiza will be on another roster before the sun sets tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: Or they were satisfied with Araiza’s initial response/explanation but found out later he lied about part of it. We may never know and there are parts that shouldn’t be public until the appropriate time. Criminal cases outweigh civil which outweigh fans “need to know” by miles. Beane made clear Araiza’s story has not altered at any point. More may come out via a civil or criminal case which reveals he has but, for now, neither said they were lied to by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: If this was a cash grab, it sure didn’t shape up well for the accusers attorney. Araiza won’t have much to go after now. She was quoted in an article a month ago that she's going public now bc she doesn't want him to play in the NFL and make a ton of money. Which seems to completely contradict the cash grab claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, Hermes said: The Bills had no choice to drop him regardless. Even if they knew with 100% certainty thay he was innocent. The media circus that would plague the team would be an absolute nightmare. Worst case scenario is that they keep him on and then he does get charged and arrested. How much does that derail the season, and what does that do to the reputation you've built? The media is to blame. Even after Beane cut him, they were going after him. The media even sent the females out to ask questions. "Why now?" "Why not cut him in July?" The subtext being "do you hate women?" "Why didn't you immediately believe the accuser?" "Why didn't you immediately assume he was guilty?" Sleazy sleazy sleazy. They're all desperate for a purpose and to APPEAR intrepid. If the media is so ethical and fearless why won't anybody ask the Bills why La Nova Pizza owned by the HEAD OF THE BUFFALO MAFIA CRIME FAMILY is licensed to sell food at the stadium. It's a rhetorical question. It's because they're phonies. Let's listen to Wawrow put his betters on the judgement chair instead. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: it sure didn’t shape up well for the accusers attorney. Araiza won’t have much to go after now. That’s the part that is most confusing for me. If you are suing someone civilly, it is for money. The actions of the alleged victims attorney helped accelerate Araiza’s release from his source of income. I wonder if he fully thought this through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Beerball said: Sad? What makes you sad here is that a punter got cut? If this is truly a sad situation then Araiza will be on another roster before the sun sets tomorrow. Sad that he wasted his talent being evil. Sad... If he is on another roster. Period. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: It's almost like maybe police don't always do the right thing. I dunno. That’s the question. What does the SDPD have and what facts do they have? Anything that supports all this stuff over the media? If not….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Einstein said: That’s the part that is most confusing for me. If you are suing someone civilly, it is for money. The actions of the alleged victims attorney helped accelerate Araiza’s release from his source of income. I wonder if he fully thought this through. Or sued to get criminal case to piss or get off pot. They should sue SDSU, the next deep pocket with a $350 million endowment. They passed the buck to SDPD. Get them to move. Was there a grand jury? Anyone now what Vic's lawyer is saying after this??? Edited August 28, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Or sued to get criminal case to piss or get off pot. I didn’t realize a civil case could do that. I am admittedly no legal expert. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 McBean did the best they could given a no win scenario. They had to make a decision with incomplete information. They made the right choice cutting him. I hope they find a capable punter/holder. I’m glad this crap is behind us. On to the season and the rams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Einstein said: I didn’t realize a civil case could do that. I am admittedly no legal expert. I didn't either. But after reading through here, I think it's possible? Still not sure??? 2 minutes ago, Andy1 said: McBean did the best they could given a no win scenario. They had to make a decision with incomplete information. They made the right choice cutting him. I hope they find a capable punter/holder. I’m glad this crap is behind us. On to the season and the rams. And they put a goose egg on last actual exhibition game. So going into live game with a new holder cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just seen the press conference. They handled that well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 It's entirely plausible that down the road Ariza signs with another team (if and after legal matters resolve). I still couldn't hold it against the Bills. There was really no viable alternative for them right now. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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