Donald Trump is under criminal investigation by the Department of Justice

[TSOL]

38 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Only? 

 

Trump inspired violence 

 

 

What is is like to have one man dominate your mind the way he does? He must be a very special man for you to expend so much mental energy on him. 

[Tenhigh]

4 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

 

What is is like to have one man dominate your mind the way he does? He must be a very special man for you to expend so much mental energy on him. 

No, Tibs doesn't have that kind of attraction to Trump. That other guy though...

[TSOL]

12 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

No, Tibs doesn't have that kind of attraction to Trump. That other guy though...

 

 

They both have really fabricated quite a super villain 

[Tiberius]

27 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

 

What is is like to have one man dominate your mind the way he does? He must be a very special man for you to expend so much mental energy on him. 

Lol, its a political message board. Why are you so obsessed with defending a criminal? Why does a criminal dominate your passions? 

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Lol, its a political message board. Why are you so obsessed with defending a criminal? Why does a criminal dominate your passions? 

I always think of it as a branch of a Bills message board. So Tibs, on the dawn on another season…what do you think? Is this the year?

[TSOL]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Lol, its a political message board. Why are you so obsessed with defending a criminal? Why does a criminal dominate your passions? 

 

 

I just prefer a prosperous country over societal and economic smothering policy and mismanagement. 

 

Sorry not sorry.  

Edited August 5, 2022 by TSOL

[Tiberius]

 

[TSOL]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

 

 

 

Go get em, torches and pitchfork crew 

 

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

 

Go get em, torches and pitchfork crew 

 

No, just lawyers, prosecutors and judges 

Even this Dick sees Trump as a threat to the republic 

 

 

[TSOL]

44 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

No, just lawyers, prosecutors and judges 

Even this Dick sees Trump as a threat to the republic 

 

 

 

 

Yep let me know how your Salem witch hunt turns out 

[Tiberius]

15 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

 

Yep let me know how your Salem witch hunt turns out 

I sure will. Will you be protesting to get him released if he is locked up? 

 

 

[716er]

Defending Trump like a lover. A little weird but, whatever. It is a cult.

[TSOL]

9 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

I sure will. Will you be protesting to get him released if he is locked up? 

 

 

 

 

If he is locked up I'll eat my shoe, ok? Deal? 

[Andy1]

When Dick Cheney, the icon of conservative politics, believes Trump is a danger to the country, people should listen. I always knew Cheney sided with America, Trump does what’s good for Trump.

[TSOL]

10 minutes ago, 716er said:

Defending Trump like a lover. A little weird but, whatever. It is a cult.

 

 

You're talking like Bills time now? Interesting.

 

 

[716er]

When one shows their true colors and jumps in to defend only Trump, it is what it is.

[Tiberius]

18 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

 

If he is locked up I'll eat my shoe, ok? Deal? 

What type of shoe? How will it be prepared (fried, baked, roasted, etc.)? 

 

 

[Doc]

5 hours ago, Buffarukus said:

i agree with this. if there was fraud by all means Republicans leaders need to put up the evidence and show what you got. its been 2 years! its not like the rnc doesnt have the money/power/ or means to conduct whatever investigation is necessary. instead they are relying on ordinary citizens to google evidence and come to conclusions based on accusations up to and including a riot at the capital that many including trump just left them holding the bag when the dust settled. that alone should disqualify rational republicans from assuming he is the great leader they thought he was. someone who fights for them. they missed the part the billionaire stepped up to pay all their legal fees or used any of his platforms to show the american people exactly why he keeps saying that other then broad "they cheated" statements. i really hope he steps aside. there is way to much baggage. alot from people being conned but also alot he created for no reason. 

 

at the same time dems are loving stoking the flames further and then complaining (and of coarse also fundraising) that they alone represent democracy that people want. hilarious. my position has always been if you have half the country that has completely lost faith in the democratic process, why are you using all your power pushing some of the same type of blatent lies and villianization you are complaining about? opposing reasonable measures that secure this process isnt a good look. voter ID is as basic as it gets to security. the majority of the country thinks this. nahhh lets call them all racists and fight against something that has always been a basic requirement. mail in was a "necessity" even as the science in human form Fauci stated in person was perfectly safe. dems quick to ignore that one but happy to adhere to the other insane suggestions that ruined lives. so now the excuse is long gone but dems are still fighting to keep that going with no legitamate reason besides trying to maintain democrat power. the list goes on.

 

so dems are doing no favors when it comes to looking incredably corrupt on the topic as well. they are also doing a huge disservice when it comes to uniting anything or making reasonable concessions. voter turn out numbers in georgia after all the "racist jim crow 2.0 suppression" accusations have them looking like fools, but they carry on for power and media just keep echoing it looking just as foolish. the reality to independent americans is they look weak as F that they they have to push this stuff. i guess they feel they have no way to win on the acctual policies they make or they wouldn't be coming across as so desperate.

 

if either side truley cared they would blow it all up and get ranked voting in because this system is completely gutted and used as the main tool to have people at each others throats. 

 

The question is: how do you prove fraud occurred if ID isn't being checked?  The answer is: you can't.  That's why I say that while we can't prove it happened, we can take steps to make sure it doesn't happen in the future, or at least as much.  But Dems are trying their best to prevent voter ID from being shown, for obvious reasons.

 

As for Trump, what does he owe the idiots who committed crimes on J6?  Their actions got him impeached.  And even if he did tell them to storm the Capitol and overthrow the government, they didn't finish the job.  Why would/should he bail them out?

 

As for the baggage, it's starting to get carried away.  Russian collusion was a hoax.  I think most people now believe that Joke and Hunter should have been investigated by Zelensky.  Joke did a worse job with Wuhan virus despite being handed a vaccine.  And J6 is failing to prove that Trump told people to become violent, much less break into the Capitol.  

 

Now if I had my druthers, I'd rather he stepped aside.  But if he runs, no one's running against him and I'm certainly not voting for any of the schlubs the Dems will try and trot out there.

 

 

[ChiGoose]

32 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The question is: how do you prove fraud occurred if ID isn't being checked?  The answer is: you can't.  That's why I say that while we can't prove it happened, we can take steps to make sure it doesn't happen in the future, or at least as much.  But Dems are trying their best to prevent voter ID from being shown, for obvious reasons.

 

You absolutely can do voter verification without ID, just like you can do authentication in regular day-to-day things (like logging into your email) without photo ID. It depends on the state, but generally your voter record includes your name, address, signature and other pieces of data. It's why you have to know all of that information and provide your signature so they can validate before you vote (or in the case of mail-in ballots, it's checked when the ballot arrives). The idea that there are hordes of people out there who both know all of the data for everyone else including signatures, and are going around voting in other people's names is ridiculous and has never found to be true.

 

I think that voter ID laws would find broader support if they were crafted to solve a problem that actually exists and set up in a way to ensure people have easy access to the right to vote.

 

But about 10% of Americans do not currently have government issued photo IDs and many of the proposed laws are very specific in carving out certain people, such as not accepting photo IDs from state colleges but allowing other forms like hunting IDs. After Alabama enacted a voter ID law, they closed many DMVs in areas with a high proportion of black residents, making it harder for them to get the ID they need to vote. Many of these laws are not actually about preventing fraud, they're just to make it harder for the "wrong" people to vote.

 

Ultimately, any kind of bipartisan electoral reform will likely add a photo ID requirement to get GOP votes, but that should only happen if the IDs are both free and easily accessible. Otherwise, it's just making it harder for the people to exercise their franchise.

[Gene Frenkle]

Holy crap - Dick Cheney just eviscerated Trump! Dick ***** Cheney of all people! I actually can't believe my eyes and ears.

 

What do all the Trumpophiles do now? My guess: throw Cheney under the bus. You loved this man! Obi-wan and Anakin vibes here. You were the chosen one! LMAO

[ChiGoose]

1 minute ago, Gene Frenkle said:

Holy crap - Dick Cheney just eviscerated Trump! Dick ***** Cheney of all people! I actually can't believe my eyes and ears.

 

What do all the Trumpophiles do now? My guess: throw Cheney under the bus. You loved this man! Obi-wan and Anakin vibes here. You were the chosen one! LMAO

They will say he’s a RINO. Anyone who doesn’t toe the line is a RINO or somehow a democrat. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

While none of this is or should be surprising or unpredicted, it is an absolute delicious irony the dems are upholding the Cheney family as virtuous

 

😂 🐑 

16 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

They will say he’s a RINO. Anyone who doesn’t toe the line is a RINO or somehow a democrat. 

I’d think DJT would get the Rino label in this case but keep me posted what the orange hair cult does, it’s sooooo exciting 

[BillsFanNC]

This is why Trump is fantastic.

 

He had all the dems and more than half of Republicans triggered to the nth degree the moment he announced that he was running.

 

Being anti Trump holds these disparate factions together in unity with far greater zeal than any party platform planks ever could. And that alone says so very much about how BOTH parties suck major ass.

 

This is why people from both parties voted for him, and will vote for him again. He shook the tree and made them expose themselves in the light of day for all to see. 

 

How an orange blowhard narcissistic ahole exposed the game and its corrupt to the core players.  So beautiful to watch.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ChiGoose]

2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

While none of this is or should be surprising or unpredicted, it is an absolute delicious irony the dems are upholding the Cheney family as virtuous

 

Yeah, I don't get why people are so quick to label something / somebody either all good or all bad without any nuance.

 

Liz Cheney doing the right thing and upholding her oath of office at the expense of her job is definitely admirable. But it doesn't change who she is or the policies she pushes. Same for her dad, who is absolutely an awful person. Glad he's on the right side of this issue, but it doesn't make him a hero.

 

It's possible to appreciate somebody for a particular action or position without having to lionize them as some great hero. Some people are even suggesting Liz should run on a centrist ticket with the Dems. Absolutely ludicrous. Some Very Online Brain happening around the Cheney's.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:

 

Yeah, I don't get why people are so quick to label something / somebody either all good or all bad without any nuance.

 

Liz Cheney doing the right thing and upholding her oath of office at the expense of her job is definitely admirable. But it doesn't change who she is or the policies she pushes. Same for her dad, who is absolutely an awful person. Glad he's on the right side of this issue, but it doesn't make him a hero.

 

It's possible to appreciate somebody for a particular action or position without having to lionize them as some great hero. Some people are even suggesting Liz should run on a centrist ticket with the Dems. Absolutely ludicrous. Some Very Online Brain happening around the Cheney's.

way too cynical to credit Liz with doing the ‘right thing’ for right thing sake, I believe it’s her strategy for the Whitehouse. 

[ChiGoose]

5 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

way too cynical to credit Liz with doing the ‘right thing’ for right thing sake, I believe it’s her strategy for the Whitehouse. 

 

You may be right, but I don't see her path there. Her brand of not being a conspiracy-believing loon has no home in the modern GOP and she disagrees with Dems on most major policy issues.

 

Does she run in the GOP primary? If so, I can't see her going anywhere.

 

I can't see her running in the Dem primary.

 

Independent? Maybe, but at that point, she's just playing the spoiler and would help re-elect Trump should he run again.

[BillsFanNC]

5 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

Yeah, I don't get why people are so quick to label something / somebody either all good or all bad without any nuance.

 

Nuance? I'm not so sure how well this flies coming from the guy who refuses to acknowledge that politicians primarily have political motivations. When you're able to come to grips with that bit of nuance then maybe people will take your J6 musings a little more seriously. 

 

[BillStime]

13 minutes ago, DRsGhost said:

This is why Trump is fantastic.

 

He had all the dems and more than half of Republicans triggered to the nth degree the moment he announced that he was running.

 

Being anti Trump holds these disparate factions together in unity with far greater zeal than any party platform planks ever could. And that alone says so very much about how BOTH parties suck major ass.

 

This is why people from both parties voted for him, and will vote for him again. He shook the tree and made them expose themselves in the light of day for all to see. 

 

How an orange blowhard narcissistic ahole exposed the game and its corrupt to the core players.  So beautiful to watch.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're either pro Trump or pro America.

 

There is no in between and that is why TrumPutin is doing a masterful job uniting pro democratic Americans regardless of party.

 

You, of course, are on the wrong side of this issue and history.

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

And right on schedule with another response that I won't read.

 

I suppose this is a perfect place to start up again as I've been woefully lacking on my weekly promise to post the following....

 

Hey @BillStime  ***** off!

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

7 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

You may be right, but I don't see her path there. Her brand of not being a conspiracy-believing loon has no home in the modern GOP and she disagrees with Dems on most major policy issues.

 

Does she run in the GOP primary? If so, I can't see her going anywhere.

 

I can't see her running in the Dem primary.

 

Independent? Maybe, but at that point, she's just playing the spoiler and would help re-elect Trump should he run again.

I didn’t say it was a winner… but people forget specifics over time and the msm has inadvertently propped her up as a hero. 
 

the average voter is a complete moron. 
 

if she could buy her way through a primary I could see a slam dunk Presidential run.

 

[BillsFanNC]

9 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I didn’t say it was a winner… but people forget specifics over time and the msm has inadvertently propped her up as a hero. 
 

the average voter is a complete moron. 
 

if she could buy her way through a primary I could see a slam dunk Presidential run for a third party candidate.

 

 

FIFY

[BillStime]

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

18 minutes ago, DRsGhost said:

 

FIFY

Really? Trumpers would re-elect Biden over her? Maybe. That’s unexpected 

[BillsFanNC]

Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Really? Trumpers would re-elect Biden over her? Maybe. That’s unexpected 

 

In a Liz Cheney vs. Dementia patient/Kamala race you may have a very strong possibility of a third party candidate winning is what I meant.

[BillStime]

38 minutes ago, DRsGhost said:

And right on schedule with another response that I won't read.

 

I suppose this is a perfect place to start up again as I've been woefully lacking on my weekly promise to post the following....

 

Hey @BillStime  ***** off!

 

[TH3]

1 hour ago, DRsGhost said:

This is why Trump is fantastic.

 

He had all the dems and more than half of Republicans triggered to the nth degree the moment he announced that he was running.

 

Being anti Trump holds these disparate factions together in unity with far greater zeal than any party platform planks ever could. And that alone says so very much about how BOTH parties suck major ass.

 

This is why people from both parties voted for him, and will vote for him again. He shook the tree and made them expose themselves in the light of day for all to see. 

 

How an orange blowhard narcissistic ahole exposed the game and its corrupt to the core players.  So beautiful to watch.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dude …he lost. 

[BillsFanNC]

3 minutes ago, TH3 said:

Dude …he lost. 

 

And he's still in your head.  Every. single. day.

 

Like I said, it's beautiful.

[BillStime]

28 minutes ago, DRsGhost said:

 

And he's still in your head.  Every. single. day.

 

Like I said, it's beautiful.

 

Donald might be in OUR heads but he OWNS yours.

 

[Wacka]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

 

You're either pro Trump or pro America.

 

 

WHY NOT BOTH? You are pro Biden and pro commie.

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, Wacka said:

WHY NOT BOTH? You are pro Biden and pro commie.

 

Pro democracy.

 

You? Not so much.