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Poll: How would you grade the Bills overall draft?  

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  1. 1. Bills draft grade

    • A
      51
    • B+
      105
    • B
      99
    • B-
      31
    • C+
      15
    • C
      11
    • C-
      2
    • F
      2


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4 hours ago, bdomdbomb said:

C+

Can't get over spending a premium 2nd round pick on a running back who cannot block and is not known for his running.

From pro football network:

 

In addition to rushing and pass-catching ability, the NFL evaluates running backs on their ability to block. Cook is an extremely willing blocker both in pass protection and as a run blocker. He’s routinely tasked with chip blocking, and there were multiple examples of him getting out in front and blocking downfield in the games studied. Furthermore, he routinely looks for work in this regard, demonstrating a level of football intelligence.

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38 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

From pro football network:

 

In addition to rushing and pass-catching ability, the NFL evaluates running backs on their ability to block. Cook is an extremely willing blocker both in pass protection and as a run blocker. He’s routinely tasked with chip blocking, and there were multiple examples of him getting out in front and blocking downfield in the games studied. Furthermore, he routinely looks for work in this regard, demonstrating a level of football intelligence.

Thanks for this.  I've been wondering about his blocking.  Clearly, his initial role on the team would be third-down back because of his receiving skills.  He's not getting on the field in that role if he can't handle the blitz - teams figure that out in a hurry.   If he spends this summer learning his pass pro assignments, he should be ready to go in September. 

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1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Did a good amount in the offseason on the offensive line and when bates mace his way into the starting lineup down the stretch they started playing great.  We were one corner away from being the superbowl champs imo and we’ve gotta start getting prepared for edmunds’ exit as well.  

Since when is adding an aging vet with shoulder problems doing a lot?

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I’ll give it a B for now.  The draft board fell in a way that worked against our needs and desires.  I didn’t like trading up, but I’m glad they got the guy they wanted if they really feel he was the only guy left.  It’s just confusing to me considering the CB prospects available.  But they got the biggest and the fastest one and he excels in man….so I’m happy with the selection.  
 

Cook will be an excellent pick as long as they use him correctly. I’m really excited to see how he can help this team win games.

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Voted B+, but really I would give it an A-.

 

It appears Beane added legit talent and versatility at CB2, HB2, LB3, WR5, & P. Tough to argue with that. 
 

I also think this draft shows Beane continues to be aware of and value where the league is trending. Passing / defending the pass, and, again, versatility. 
 

Only reasons it is not an A or A+ is because the haul lacked anyone appearing to be a true blue chip star (although Cook has the bloodlines and reminds me a lot of Kamara…) and the depth picks toward the end do not figure to add much and may have been put to better use to move up again for a player who has a real shot of making the roster. 

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4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Since when is adding an aging vet with shoulder problems doing a lot?

First off, dude didn’t say they did a lot.  He said good amount.  there’s a difference and that difference is why you decided to use “A lot” instead of good amount. Because they did a good amount…..but yes, not a lot.  I wish they would’ve done more too…..but the offseason isn’t over and I’m still confident that we’ve upgraded enough in other areas to compensate for not upgrading as much as we’d like on the OL. Whether you or I think Brown is good enough, is irrelevant.  Brown was going to be our starting RT regardless.  He’s part of their plan. 

 

good amount =

-They got rid of a meh OL coach and replaced him with one of the all time best OL coaches.  

 

- added an aging vet with shoulder problems.

 

-kept Bates-  that’s not addition….but it is.  He signed with another team and we decided to keep him.  We kept the guy that helped turn around our OL play last year. 
 

- nice upgrade with quessenberry.  Back Ot went from Tommy Doyle…..to a guy that has played some good football over the years and is a beast run blocker.  They can put him in as a TE2 in short yardage situations too.  Yes….I know he was bad in pass pro last year, but he was never THAT bad in pass pro before.  A team built around their RB, lost their rb….and it wasn’t a good fit for him. Tannehill has always held the ball too long and could be a reason for his poor grades.  Same goes for a Saffold.  He’s a huge upgrade over Doyle.  Our tackle depth is fine, regardless of what you think.  
 


-  Greg Mancz. IOL depth that has shown he can play meaningful snaps and not get obliterated.  
 

-Tenuta-  no clue-  won’t pretend to know anything of substance about the guy

 


Not a lot, but a good amount. 

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1 hour ago, NewEra said:

First off, dude didn’t say they did a lot.  He said good amount.  there’s a difference and that difference is why you decided to use “A lot” instead of good amount. Because they did a good amount…..but yes, not a lot.  I wish they would’ve done more too…..but the offseason isn’t over and I’m still confident that we’ve upgraded enough in other areas to compensate for not upgrading as much as we’d like on the OL. Whether you or I think Brown is good enough, is irrelevant.  Brown was going to be our starting RT regardless.  He’s part of their plan. 

 

good amount =

-They got rid of a meh OL coach and replaced him with one of the all time best OL coaches.  

 

- added an aging vet with shoulder problems.

 

-kept Bates-  that’s not addition….but it is.  He signed with another team and we decided to keep him.  We kept the guy that helped turn around our OL play last year. 
 

- nice upgrade with quessenberry.  Back Ot went from Tommy Doyle…..to a guy that has played some good football over the years and is a beast run blocker.  They can put him in as a TE2 in short yardage situations too.  Yes….I know he was bad in pass pro last year, but he was never THAT bad in pass pro before.  A team built around their RB, lost their rb….and it wasn’t a good fit for him. Tannehill has always held the ball too long and could be a reason for his poor grades.  Same goes for a Saffold.  He’s a huge upgrade over Doyle.  Our tackle depth is fine, regardless of what you think.  
 


-  Greg Mancz. IOL depth that has shown he can play meaningful snaps and not get obliterated.  
 

-Tenuta-  no clue-  won’t pretend to know anything of substance about the guy

 


Not a lot, but a good amount. 

Looks like a group that is really counting on their new offensive line coach to raise the level of play… Either way I have no doubt Josh will hide their warts as he did for much of last season… just hope there are less warts and they can do enough for Josh to win us a SB next season. 👍🏻

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It seemed to be solid though unspectacular, which is what I expect for a team in the 25 picking slot.  Picking a grade would make me a hypocrite after posting what I just did in another thread.

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I don’t like the immediately post draft grades, “draft expert” decide where players should be valued.  But they are not scouts and they are almost never correct.  We don’t always know the circumstances either. A player might fit one system over another.  We will truly be able to grade these in 4 years.

that being Said, if Beane thought Elam was worth the pick, he was worth the pick…same for every round.

 

final grade A  🤷🏻‍♂️

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7 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

I chose B-.

They got a starting corner to pair with Tre for several years.  Well done even if it cost a 4th round pick.  Cook adds a skill set the current RBs do not have. WR was addressed late with a guy that may be a steal. 

Hated the 3rd round pick.  

The 6'8" stiff should be comical to watch in camp. Tenuta may be first draft pick to get cut after OTAs.  Impressive to draft someone with less skills than Doyle.

 

 

Feeling the same way, although I didn't hate the third round pick I thought it would have been better to spend that pick on the O-line which is still pretty thin.

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10 hours ago, Lost said:

I personally like our 1st rd pick in Kaiir Elam considereing how the board was falling though I feel we could have still gotten him 2 picks down without trading our rd 4 pick.

 

I suspected the Bills might try and move up a bit in the 2nd for a receiver but since they didnt move I'm okay with the Cook pick.  He will probably end up being a starter sooner rather than later.

 

If one pick pick from this draft has left me underwhelmed its the Bills 3rd rounder.  He'll probably be a journeyman backup but I feel there were better picks out there.

 

I Like the 5th round pick in Khalil Shakir.  Sad its our only WR pick but he should contribute some in this offense

 

 

Pretty much where I'm at. I like Elam, but trading that 4th didn't seem shrewd. I think we saw the consequences of that by overdrafting Bernard in the 3rd, something that might not have happened if we had that 4th rd pick.

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10 hours ago, bdomdbomb said:

C+

Can't get over spending a premium 2nd round pick on a running back who cannot block and is not known for his running.

He was picked for his receiving ability and he can handle 10ish carries a game as well.  I like this pick better than dropping a 1st on Hall who is bigger, but a lesser receiving option.  

5 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

Thanks for this.  I've been wondering about his blocking.  Clearly, his initial role on the team would be third-down back because of his receiving skills.  He's not getting on the field in that role if he can't handle the blitz - teams figure that out in a hurry.   If he spends this summer learning his pass pro assignments, he should be ready to go in September. 

They run empty backfield sets relatively frequently and Cook can play in that without worrying about his blocking.  Few, if any, RBs come into the league as good pass blockers.

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Like i said in another thread. Lazy draft for the Bills. Don’t think they added a starter besides maybe the punter. Elam should contribute but I don’t think he’s better than Jackson. Don’t think Cook is good enough to play. Bernard will help sub Milano and on special teams. Not sure any of the others make the team. 

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6 minutes ago, Floydboy12 said:

Like i said in another thread. Lazy draft for the Bills. Don’t think they added a starter besides maybe the punter. Elam should contribute but I don’t think he’s better than Jackson. Don’t think Cook is good enough to play. Bernard will help sub Milano and on special teams. Not sure any of the others make the team. 

You're kidding, right?  Jackson is a sub-par athlete by NFL standards and was a 6th (I think) round pick.  I *hope* that he is as good as you think, but I'm very skeptical of that.  Elam has better size and athletic ability, played in a better conference than Jackson did and has NFL blood-lines.  Best case, both Elam and Jackson are starting calibre and White returns to his previous form.  How is that bad?

 

I'm not the biggest fan of the Cook pick, but he can play and make an impact at the NFL level.  He is more receiver than RB, but he can for sure tote the rock a few times a game.  His hands and speed make him a threat.  Could they have found a WR there?  I don't think so - I think he is a better fit than Skyy Moore who went just a pick or two earlier and he does more, too.

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5 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

You're kidding, right?  Jackson is a sub-par athlete by NFL standards and was a 6th (I think) round pick.  I *hope* that he is as good as you think, but I'm very skeptical of that.  Elam has better size and athletic ability, played in a better conference than Jackson did and has NFL blood-lines.  Best case, both Elam and Jackson are starting calibre and White returns to his previous form.  How is that bad?

 

I'm not the biggest fan of the Cook pick, but he can play and make an impact at the NFL level.  He is more receiver than RB, but he can for sure tote the rock a few times a game.  His hands and speed make him a threat.  Could they have found a WR there?  I don't think so - I think he is a better fit than Skyy Moore who went just a pick or two earlier and he does more, too.

Hope you’re right and I’m wrong. I’ve watched Elam and Cook quite a bit. 

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The only head scratcher for me was Tenuda, but who knows, he may end up being a solid addition.

I wasn’t wedded to any particular prospect which I think it makes it easier to be more positive.

B+

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10 hours ago, GreggTX said:

Good picks, but I just don't get the lack of attention to the OL. C, LG and LT starters are solid, but there's a HUGE dropoff after that. I sure hope Beane has another trick up his sleeve. I was decidedly underwhelmed by the Quessenberry signing. Great story, but still a backup caliber player. I sure hope Brown takes a gargantuan leap this year. Kromer really needs to earn his keep this Summer.

I agree that very few draft assets have been used lately for the OL. The last 2 Super Bowls are lessons in how a weak OL can doom you in the big game. There were some really good IOL on the board in round 3 when we picked. I felt the same way last year when we took Boogie when Creed Humphrey was sitting there. He went the next pick to KC, just like Parham and Rhyan went shortly after the pick. Mitch Morse is a little undersized and has injury concerns. Guard play is important. Kansas City rebuilt their OL last year and Cincy did the same this year. I don’t think our OL is any better. Beane misjudged Wyatt Teller’s talent and now says that he should have given him more time. He was in Buffalo only 1 year and the moved him since they drafted the great Cody Ford. Seems like Ford has had enough time to prove himself.

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B-

 

I feel our hand was forced because of the CB situation- and it caused us to lose value, out of desperation...

 

I feel that, had the Bills not been so desperate, they could have played the first 3 rounds better, instead of losing value...

 

Day 3 value saved this draft, for me...

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