The Wiz Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 13 hours ago, buffalo2218 said: Looks like the phins are becoming the Bills' farm squad The Bills were the farm team for the nfl for 2 decades. Time to do some farming of our own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Turk71 said: Johnson was drafted in the 3rd round (77th pick) while Mckissic went undrafted a year later. Scouts definitely felt Johnson had much greater potential. I definitely think the Bills got the better player who is more versatile, faster while being 15 lbs heavier, has a better resume', and will cost less. He's also a month younger. I like this pickup. My guess is, there’s a reason why the Bills targeted McKissic first. Could be because, stats aside, they felt he was a better player for us 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoros Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 8 hours ago, newcam2012 said: I don't dislike the pick up. It's cheap and he might do well in the Bills offense. However, I'm a bit skeptical Johnson will bring much to the table. He's bounced around a few teams and had moderate success in Cleveland. For me, it's hard to get enthusiastic about Duke Johnson. Beane had a very limited budget and did ok here. I'd temper your expectations. My guess is Johnson is being brought in to be the number 2 rb. Maybe the 3rd down back. Either way, he isn’t coming in as the starter, unless he has an amazing camp/pre season. He looked really good last year when he got playing time down the stretch. Certainly better than what we saw from Moss, and I think that’s the idea. Have insurance in case Moss doesn’t develop. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 55 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That's really cheap, especially for Johnson. Both have around 350k guaranteed, which is not great wrt Mancz, since I hope he will not be good enough to make the roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: That's really cheap, especially for Johnson. Both have around 350k guaranteed, which is not great wrt Mancz, since I hope he will not be good enough to make the roster. Seems neither will be top 51 contracts. Those are the moves they got left most likley. Barring another restructure or extension to create space for a cb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aesop Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Really love this signing at a bargain. Singletary took control of the RB room the 2nd half of last season but it is nice to snag an elite pass catching running back. For comparison, DJ's owns a massive 9.2 yards/reception over his career, which is more than CMC (8.4 y/r), Fournette (7.1 y/r) and JD McKissic (7.8 y/r). Really don't understand why anyone wouldn't like this acquisition, especially given the price. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tanoros said: My guess is Johnson is being brought in to be the number 2 rb. Maybe the 3rd down back. Either way, he isn’t coming in as the starter, unless he has an amazing camp/pre season. He looked really good last year when he got playing time down the stretch. Certainly better than what we saw from Moss, and I think that’s the idea. Have insurance in case Moss doesn’t develop. Agree 100%. What I'm taking exception too is some here are acting like Johnson is the second coming...The pick up is solid but lets keep it in perspective. Edited March 22, 2022 by newcam2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyab1974 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 WOW! What is going on? They don't want to wait until draft season next month to sign people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 21 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said: Control your enthusiasm. Duke Johnson rates zero “!” In the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 13 hours ago, RyanC883 said: what other dolphins? https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2022/3/21/22988932/report-buffalo-bills-sign-center-greg-mancz-miami-dolphins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Looks as though they are both Veteran Salary Benefit contracts. The "tell" is they count less against the cap than the salary plus bonuses. Here's a good explanation: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jake-kumerow-contract-details-and-the-nfls-veteran-salary-benefit/ar-AAV0Yuh Looks as though the Bills guaranteed part of their base salary as well, and that the maximum additional bonus allowed under VSB has had an increase from $137,500 to $152,500. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: That's really cheap, especially for Johnson. Both have around 350k guaranteed, which is not great wrt Mancz, since I hope he will not be good enough to make the roster. It's apparently even cheaper than that when you look at the cap hit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: That's really cheap, especially for Johnson. Both have around 350k guaranteed, which is not great wrt Mancz, since I hope he will not be good enough to make the roster. Really? I hope Krommer unlocks his potential and he because a pro bowl caliber Guard. Edited March 22, 2022 by buffaloboyinATL 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 1:03 PM, Bangarang said: Meh Should have went with, Meh!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 That is dirt cheap for Duke 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: My guess is, there’s a reason why the Bills targeted McKissic first. Could be because, stats aside, they felt he was a better player for us Mckissic is the better receiving option and blocker as a combination Duke is a better runner and more dynamic receiver Edited March 22, 2022 by Buffalo716 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Really? I hope Krommer unlocks his potential and he because a pro bowl caliper Guard. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Mckissic is the better receiving option and blocker Duke is a better runner Hey, while I got your attention, what's your take on Crowder's playing speed? Does it look faster than his 40 time to you? Would love you to wander over to his thread and weigh in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Mckissic is the better receiving option and blocker Duke is a better runner Just curious, but based on what? He's out-produced McKissic in the passing game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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