ExWNYer Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 17 hours ago, Augie said: In addition to the $50 MIL, he also demands to be at the top of the list in every news cycle. That part is non-negotiable! He'll have to drive a stake thru Brady's heart first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 They can make it happen. Large signing bonus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: He'll have to drive a stake thru Brady's heart first. That sounds like a very successful pay-per-view! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Augie said: That sounds like a very successful pay-per-view! 'A Very Brady Death'...it's probably the only thing about Brady I'd watch. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 😂 😝 😝 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 17 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said: .... and choked to end both seasons Yeah, that was all on AR 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: This is a problem with drafting 9 defensive players and a replacement QB with their last 10 #1 picks.............they have done well to add Davante Adams and Aaron Jones to their roster at much lower draft slots than the players they've turned out to be...............but the drop-off to the rest of their playmakers is huge because they've not invested in that side of the ball. We've seen over and over again that you can transform a bad defense in free agency..........but it's hard to maintain a good defense for a long period of time regardless of the investment. So why use your franchise building blocks all on defense? When you have a franchise QB..........you CAN build long term success on that side of the ball. Packers tried to cheat the system. Almost worked the past couple of seasons, but maybe if they had been QB-centric in his prime they wouldn't be at odds with Rodgers now............and they'd have a deep enough offense that they could move on from Adams. Bills need to take note of how Green Bay has messed up being blessed with the best QB in the conference for the past decade. Bingo. This. Don’t do it Beane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 4 hours ago, NewEra said: His ypc is high because that’s all dude can do. He’s a lesser version of Torrey Smith. Run deep And hope AR puts in on him. He’s made a handful of circus catches, he gets credit for that. tonyan was healthy to start this season and was nearly invisible. You’d take knox all day every day who knows? Maybe Knox has the same kind of start next year---after his single above average season. MVS is doing what they ask him to do. What else is he supposed to be doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: This is a problem with drafting 9 defensive players and a replacement QB with their last 10 #1 picks.............they have done well to add Davante Adams and Aaron Jones to their roster at much lower draft slots than the players they've turned out to be...............but the drop-off to the rest of their playmakers is huge because they've not invested in that side of the ball. We've seen over and over again that you can transform a bad defense in free agency..........but it's hard to maintain a good defense for a long period of time regardless of the investment. So why use your franchise building blocks all on defense? When you have a franchise QB..........you CAN build long term success on that side of the ball. Packers tried to cheat the system. Almost worked the past couple of seasons, but maybe if they had been QB-centric in his prime they wouldn't be at odds with Rodgers now............and they'd have a deep enough offense that they could move on from Adams. Bills need to take note of how Green Bay has messed up being blessed with the best QB in the conference for the past decade. The Packers have won their Division and had 13 wins 3 times the past 3 years. They went to the NFCC game 2 of those years. Rodgers "in his prime" led them to more than 11 wins only twice in the previous 11 seasons. In 2020, they had the #1 Offense. The Offense around him helped him to consecutive MVPs--his last one was 7 years ago. That's not exactly "messing up" the roster. Lafleur/Rodgers can't get to the SB, despite the massive Offensive stats, a top 10 D and all those regular season wins. They have been eliminated, twice, by the San Francisco Garappolo's...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 42 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: who knows? Maybe Knox has the same kind of start next year---after his single above average season. MVS is doing what they ask him to do. What else is he supposed to be doing? Yeah, who knows. They are asking him to do the only thing he can do. Run straight, catch and run. He’s not a good route runner….that’s why they don’t ask him to do anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, NewEra said: Yeah, who knows. They are asking him to do the only thing he can do. Run straight, catch and run. He’s not a good route runner….that’s why they don’t ask him to do anything else. I'm not familiar enough with MVS's route tree to comment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 The Packers need to pay the man, of course I want all teams to have to pay that much for a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 I'm curious to know what @Ice bowl 67 thinks of this......🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Booey Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 22 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Nah. Rodgers is the man. there just comes a point…when you just can’t here the “player talk” and I begin to appreciate so much more the authentic truth that comes from these athletes. even if it is in complete contrast with the “everything for the team.” Player robot speak so many of our athletes are brainwashed into. Dude is an *** hole!! Crazy that you can back guy like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 5:24 PM, Augie said: In addition to the $50 MIL, he also demands to be at the top of the list in every news cycle. That part is non-negotiable! Give him the bonus to make $50 Mil when his team makes the Superbowl. If you are making that much you should be able to carry your team to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: The Packers have won their Division and had 13 wins 3 times the past 3 years. They went to the NFCC game 2 of those years. Rodgers "in his prime" led them to more than 11 wins only twice in the previous 11 seasons. In 2020, they had the #1 Offense. The Offense around him helped him to consecutive MVPs--his last one was 7 years ago. That's not exactly "messing up" the roster. Lafleur/Rodgers can't get to the SB, despite the massive Offensive stats, a top 10 D and all those regular season wins. They have been eliminated, twice, by the San Francisco Garappolo's...... "messing up the roster" are your words..........so don't put them in quotes like I said that. They've just never invested heavily into Rodgers side of the ball in the draft............and while LaFleur has brought a better offense to Green Bay......... IMO Rodgers "prime" was during the McCarthy era, not his late 30's. The Packers don't have a very deep or balanced offense..........Rodgers and Adams have carried them to big records playing in a feeble division..........but in the playoffs that hasn't proven to be enough against top defenses. I do think Rodgers has looked tired at the end of the past two seasons.........but the fact remains he has deserved those regular season MVP's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: I'm not familiar enough with MVS's route tree to comment... I am. Getting drafted by the packers will get him paid. If he was drafted by the jets, he’d be signing a minimum $ deal. I have no doubts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, NewEra said: I am. Getting drafted by the packers will get him paid. If he was drafted by the jets, he’d be signing a minimum $ deal. I have no doubts Same with Davis, Knox… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 12:03 PM, RockpileSurvivor said: FWIW Pat MacAfee asked Rodgers about the ‘report’ via text. Rodgers categorically denied it. Good sir, this board is full of pearl clutchers who care not for reality. On 2/28/2022 at 12:58 PM, GETTOTHE50 said: haha love it. ***** the packers. can’t wait till they become irrelevant with Justin love. You know he’s gotta be pissed with the pack too. Damn near as angry as his cousin, Jordan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 3:59 PM, Einstein's Dog said: Yeah, and let's not forget Green Bay has to bear some responsibility for the mess their in also. They didn't extend A Rogers when they could have had him at the $40M mark of Mahomes and Josh. Quite the opposite, they got cute and drafted what they thought would be Rogers replacement and let Rogers ride out his deal. That oh so clever GB FO now has to deal with a mess of its own making. They had a HOF QB, pretty much in his prime, and decided to try and draft his replacement early. Oops. Love lucked terrible and there is now no way to get Rogers with any kind of break now. They have to pay market price to keep him, $50M. No, he's literally won a Superbowl and the two most recent MVPs. If Carr is worth $40M, and K Murray is North of $40M, yes, A Rogers is $50M. Anyone who pays Murray north of 40 should be marched out of the building immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Baba Booey said: Dude is an *** hole!! Crazy that you can back guy like that. Look at your bull####. You know him personally? Amazing you would be so presumptuous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Baba Booey said: Dude is an *** hole!! Crazy that you can back guy like that. Every player has a little ***hole in them. Some just play the media game. Others do not. I appreciate the authentic ness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 10 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: "messing up the roster" are your words..........so don't put them in quotes like I said that. They've just never invested heavily into Rodgers side of the ball in the draft............and while LaFleur has brought a better offense to Green Bay......... IMO Rodgers "prime" was during the McCarthy era, not his late 30's. The Packers don't have a very deep or balanced offense..........Rodgers and Adams have carried them to big records playing in a feeble division..........but in the playoffs that hasn't proven to be enough against top defenses. I do think Rodgers has looked tired at the end of the past two seasons.........but the fact remains he has deserved those regular season MVP's. I only put quotes around "messed up"....because you said: "how Green Bay has messed up being blessed with the best QB in the conference for the past decade." if not the roster, what are you referring to? Seems clear it's the Offensive roster.... In 2020, the Packers had the #1 scoring Offense in the league--only the 3rd time in Rodgers's career and the first time in 7 seasons. That's not all from Adams and Jones. Anyway, in the 2019 and 2021 seasons, SF had a top 10 D. Packers were in same range. Same for TB. In Rodgers's "prime" with McCarthy, the Packers had 1 playoff run with more than a single win over a 6 year span after the SB 10 years ago.... But the point is that Rodgers (who didn't deserve the MVP in 2021), even in his prime, even with the best Offense in the NFL (2011, 2014, 2020), Rodgers can't get this team back to the SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: I only put quotes around "messed up"....because you said: "how Green Bay has messed up being blessed with the best QB in the conference for the past decade." if not the roster, what are you referring to? Seems clear it's the Offensive roster.... In 2020, the Packers had the #1 scoring Offense in the league--only the 3rd time in Rodgers's career and the first time in 7 seasons. That's not all from Adams and Jones. Anyway, in the 2019 and 2021 seasons, SF had a top 10 D. Packers were in same range. Same for TB. In Rodgers's "prime" with McCarthy, the Packers had 1 playoff run with more than a single win over a 6 year span after the SB 10 years ago.... But the point is that Rodgers (who didn't deserve the MVP in 2021), even in his prime, even with the best Offense in the NFL (2011, 2014, 2020), Rodgers can't get this team back to the SB. The Packers have turned over their roster MANY times since they last won the SB............it's not as simple as saying they've messed up their current roster. They chose to keep a bad HC in McCarthy around and not address the offensive skill needs in round 1 or free agency for a decade prior to the Lafleur hiring...........so for most of his prime Rodgers was pulling most of the weight by himself.............in recent years they've not been able to add depth around Rodgers and Adams, all while continuing the prior trend of not drafting players to help the offense in round 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: The Packers have turned over their roster MANY times since they last won the SB............it's not as simple as saying they've messed up their current roster. They chose to keep a bad HC in McCarthy around and not address the offensive skill needs in round 1 or free agency for a decade prior to the Lafleur hiring...........so for most of his prime Rodgers was pulling most of the weight by himself.............in recent years they've not been able to add depth around Rodgers and Adams, all while continuing the prior trend of not drafting players to help the offense in round 1. Brady was pulling the weight himself for decades. Had Gronk for some of those years--a TE as his best weapon. Plus he made the careers for tiny slot receivers like Welker and Edelman. Who did NE draft in round as "weapons" for him? They had no 1st round pick in '09, '13, '16, '17. Other than that, in his 20 years, zero weapons from 2000-2018/19, when he got Sony Michel and n'Keal Henry. Yet no one's saying the Patriots screwed Brady's prime. Why? Because he kept winning rings with what they had. This fiction about Rodgers starving for Offensive weapons--particularly the past 2 seasons is bizarre, yet persistent. There's no excuse for the Packers to have been bounced from the playoffs the past 2 seasons with the talent they had. The best QBs get their teams past lesser teams (SF was clearly that going into their playoff game this year). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: The Packers have turned over their roster MANY times since they last won the SB............it's not as simple as saying they've messed up their current roster. They chose to keep a bad HC in McCarthy around and not address the offensive skill needs in round 1 or free agency for a decade prior to the Lafleur hiring...........so for most of his prime Rodgers was pulling most of the weight by himself.............in recent years they've not been able to add depth around Rodgers and Adams, all while continuing the prior trend of not drafting players to help the offense in round 1. this is obvious. Everyone knows this. I hear people talking about it all the time. My packers friends are furious about the handling of the packers roster since the last SB. But you’re conversing with WEO about Aaron Rodgers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I mean...you pay him 50 million with all the players they need to resign...the team will be much worse talent wise next year. Good luck Aaron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 22 hours ago, NewEra said: this is obvious. Everyone knows this. I hear people talking about it all the time. My packers friends are furious about the handling of the packers roster since the last SB. But you’re conversing with WEO about Aaron Rodgers. With the Packers fleshing out the Offense to allow 2 league MVPs for Rodgers (none since 2014)---the "they've given him no weapons" argument becomes more idiotic each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: With the Packers fleshing out the Offense to allow 2 league MVPs for Rodgers (none since 2014)---the "they've given him no weapons" argument becomes more idiotic each year. I’m sure it has little to do with AR evading the pass rush and throwing pinpoint laser beams all over the field. It has more to do pulling off the blockbuster trade for Randall Cobb and adding him to the stalwart MVS, Lazard and Mercedes’ Lewis. Other than Adams, their WRs are JAGs. Let’s hope Beane doesn’t do the same to Josh and they give him another star playmaker before next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 51 minutes ago, NewEra said: I’m sure it has little to do with AR evading the pass rush and throwing pinpoint laser beams all over the field. It has more to do pulling off the blockbuster trade for Randall Cobb and adding him to the stalwart MVS, Lazard and Mercedes’ Lewis. Other than Adams, their WRs are JAGs. Let’s hope Beane doesn’t do the same to Josh and they give him another star playmaker before next season without Adams, Jones AND MVS, Tonyan....zero point zero chance Rodgers is MVP in 2020 (he certainly didn't deserve it in 2021). It was the lack of a pinpoint laser beam (or a run for the EZ) at the end of the NFCC in 2020 that kept the Packers from the SB. In 2021, it was a general paucity of laser beams while not avoiding the pass rush that resulted in 8 completions (on 15 passes) in the entire second half vs the mighty 49ers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 27 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: without Adams, Jones AND MVS, Tonyan....zero point zero chance Rodgers is MVP in 2020 (he certainly didn't deserve it in 2021). It was the lack of a pinpoint laser beam (or a run for the EZ) at the end of the NFCC in 2020 that kept the Packers from the SB. In 2021, it was a general paucity of laser beams while not avoiding the pass rush that resulted in 8 completions (on 15 passes) in the entire second half vs the mighty 49ers. Lol. Zero point zero chance….. ok man. Whatever you say. MVS and Tonyan could’ve been replaced by a myriad of other Jags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, NewEra said: Lol. Zero point zero chance….. ok man. Whatever you say. MVS and Tonyan could’ve been replaced by a myriad of other Jags. Packers loaded their roster with plenty of "jags" for years--isn't that your claim? yet no MVP for 7 years. They bring in rookies Lazard and MVP and Tonyan and a year later they are 13-3 and a year after that Rodgers gets his first MVP since 2104. Lazard has produced 14 TDs and 75 TDs on 109 catches in the last 3 years. Why isn't he a good pickup? Tonyan had a breakout year in 2018 (better than Knox this year--and everyone is saying he should be re-signed right now). Both of these guys were undrafted. If Josh was lighting it up as he is and won the MVP (twice) with Diggs and 3 guys brought in as, essentially, rookies (no games played) together 3 years ago, you certainly wouldn't be going on now about these 3 "JAGS" Beane drafted 3 years ago--and how they are not adequate. You would be calling him the Executive of the year for getting 3 pieces of Josh's MVP seasons for a total of a 5th round draft pick (MVP). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 On 3/2/2022 at 11:08 AM, Mr. WEO said: Brady was pulling the weight himself for decades. Had Gronk for some of those years--a TE as his best weapon. Plus he made the careers for tiny slot receivers like Welker and Edelman. Who did NE draft in round as "weapons" for him? They had no 1st round pick in '09, '13, '16, '17. Other than that, in his 20 years, zero weapons from 2000-2018/19, when he got Sony Michel and n'Keal Henry. Yet no one's saying the Patriots screwed Brady's prime. Why? Because he kept winning rings with what they had. This fiction about Rodgers starving for Offensive weapons--particularly the past 2 seasons is bizarre, yet persistent. There's no excuse for the Packers to have been bounced from the playoffs the past 2 seasons with the talent they had. The best QBs get their teams past lesser teams (SF was clearly that going into their playoff game this year). That’s why Brady is the GOAT and Rodgers is not close to being in the conversation. It is what it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Packers loaded their roster with plenty of "jags" for years--isn't that your claim? yet no MVP for 7 years. They bring in rookies Lazard and MVP and Tonyan and a year later they are 13-3 and a year after that Rodgers gets his first MVP since 2104. Lazard has produced 14 TDs and 75 TDs on 109 catches in the last 3 years. Why isn't he a good pickup? Tonyan had a breakout year in 2018 (better than Knox this year--and everyone is saying he should be re-signed right now). Both of these guys were undrafted. If Josh was lighting it up as he is and won the MVP (twice) with Diggs and 3 guys brought in as, essentially, rookies (no games played) together 3 years ago, you certainly wouldn't be going on now about these 3 "JAGS" Beane drafted 3 years ago--and how they are not adequate. You would be calling him the Executive of the year for getting 3 pieces of Josh's MVP seasons for a total of a 5th round draft pick (MVP). Ok, so you attribute ARs MVP drought to MVS, Lazard and Tonyan…..No mention of firing the idiot head coach that put AR behind the 8 ball for a decade+. No mention of replacing him with a head coach that put him in the position to succeed…… the only addition that truly made a difference. Regarding your last paragraph……yeah….let’s play made up pretend baby games. Have fun with that. Wrong guy. Putting made up pretend words in people mouths based on situations that could not have happened makes much sense. I’m sure you proved a point to yourself and no one else on earth edit: it’s also funny that the only qb that you use in defense of your narrative is Brady. The GOAT. You’re right….AR is not Brady. So what point are you proving with bringing up Brady? Some dude : “LeBron had to leave cleveland to win titles while MJ stayed where he was and won with the bulls.” Some other dude: ”no **** Sherlock, MJ is the goat….no one is debating that.” Some dude: “I just like to hear myself talk.” Edited March 3, 2022 by NewEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 3 hours ago, NewEra said: Ok, so you attribute ARs MVP drought to MVS, Lazard and Tonyan…..No mention of firing the idiot head coach that put AR behind the 8 ball for a decade+. No mention of replacing him with a head coach that put him in the position to succeed…… the only addition that truly made a difference. Regarding your last paragraph……yeah….let’s play made up pretend baby games. Have fun with that. Wrong guy. Putting made up pretend words in people mouths based on situations that could not have happened makes much sense. I’m sure you proved a point to yourself and no one else on earth edit: it’s also funny that the only qb that you use in defense of your narrative is Brady. The GOAT. You’re right….AR is not Brady. So what point are you proving with bringing up Brady? Some dude : “LeBron had to leave cleveland to win titles while MJ stayed where he was and won with the bulls.” Some other dude: ”no **** Sherlock, MJ is the goat….no one is debating that.” Some dude: “I just like to hear myself talk.” 1. Rodgers only SB win was with McCarthy. Despite current opinions of his current coaching ability, That would also make him a coach that put Rodgers in a position to succeed. How did that escape you? 2. Rodgers is considered by many (here especially) as a top 5 or certainly top 10 all time. Yet you keep saying that he needs better players around him and a better coach—all sorts of help. Great QBs at some point go all the way in the postseason, with what they succeeded with during the rest of the season. You would have to conclude that Rodgers isn’t nearly on the same level, the same order of magnitude as Brady,wouldn’t you? Poor Aaron Rodgers—he has squandered a career searching for all the help he required to prove his greatness. Why will no one help him?? lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWatson#21 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 42 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: 1. Rodgers only SB win was with McCarthy. Despite current opinions of his current coaching ability, That would also make him a coach that put Rodgers in a position to succeed. How did that escape you? 2. Rodgers is considered by many (here especially) as a top 5 or certainly top 10 all time. Yet you keep saying that he needs better players around him and a better coach—all sorts of help. Great QBs at some point go all the way in the postseason, with what they succeeded with during the rest of the season. You would have to conclude that Rodgers isn’t nearly on the same level, the same order of magnitude as Brady,wouldn’t you? Poor Aaron Rodgers—he has squandered a career searching for all the help he required to prove his greatness. Why will no one help him?? lol. How much help would someone need when you face the Lions, Vikings, Bears twice a year and play in a conference where there hasn't been a dynasty since the 90's Cowboys? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: 1. Rodgers only SB win was with McCarthy. Despite current opinions of his current coaching ability, That would also make him a coach that put Rodgers in a position to succeed. How did that escape you? 2. Rodgers is considered by many (here especially) as a top 5 or certainly top 10 all time. Yet you keep saying that he needs better players around him and a better coach—all sorts of help. Great QBs at some point go all the way in the postseason, with what they succeeded with during the rest of the season. You would have to conclude that Rodgers isn’t nearly on the same level, the same order of magnitude as Brady,wouldn’t you? Poor Aaron Rodgers—he has squandered a career searching for all the help he required to prove his greatness. Why will no one help him?? lol. 1- Aaron Rodgers winning a super bowl in spite of having a bad HC doesn’t prove your point. Just because McCarthy won a SB because of Aaron Rodgers doesn’t mean he was a good coach for the other 12 years. This comment means nothing over the course of their 13 years together. 2- lol…..yes….I keep saying that he needs a supporting cast to win a super bowl……. Ask Matt stafford. It’s the NFL, not boxing, tennis or even the NBA, where 1 player can win a title on his own….ask Dwayne Wade. You continue to bring up one qb, Brady, that does this with no supporting cast (while having the best coach of all time). What other QBs have done this repeatedly? None. Only the GOAT. Brady is on one level. Aaron Rodgers is clearly below him…. CLEARLY. Who is comparing Rodgers and Brady…..other than you, as you continue to move the goal posts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I'd settle for a night with Dianna Russini and $500 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 10:38 AM, BADOLBILZ said: Sounds fair..........he's only won the MVP two years running. True buddy, but what has that mvp got them as well? He is always complaining how the team doesn’t support him with talent at Wr or whatever position he is currently complaining about, and so how does he look to help the TEAM , by demanding to be paid more than any other qb in the league probably. He proves there is no team in Aaron Rodgers. He is a headache diva, just last year holding out etc., and still is acting like things are up in the air. He just thrives on attention and that’s what I can’t stand about the guy. Despite his mvp regular season he was terrible in the playoff loss as well, and it was a home game loss in addition. He will prob get that as the gm sounds like he is happy with their “ new relationship “ ; I would love to see how that relationship is if Rodgers doesn’t just get whatever he demands he is worth right away. Wins matter in the postseason , and this guy does not have all that great of a post season record ( he has been responsible for other playoff losses with bad picks ), so those mvp awards and 5$ will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks and that’s about all its worth in my eyes. Stafford has as many Lombardi trophy’s as Rodgers , so it’s about the team and Rodgers always acts entitled because he thinks he’s unique just because he “ reads books”:! Lol ! How bout reading that headline Aaron, one title with all your great regular seasons; bet on your arrogant self with 40 mil and incentives IF YOU MAKE IT OUT IF THE FIRST ROUND !? It’s about next year , not what you did , so prove you can still perform with pressure of the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 You pay a QB that price if it's going to get you a SB win. Recent history shows Rodgers isn't getting that for GB at that price. In playoff exit to SF: 0 Tds NOT 1 (they lost by 3) the average air yards per pass: 4.8 yds (that's Capt Check down material). It's also not a 1 game thing but a persistent playoff problem according to the article below. Rodgers is great during the regular season but he hasn't delivered recently in the playoffs. Oh & for context, Brady's deal w/ Tampa was 2 yrs for 50 mill. & Rodgers thinks he's worth double that w/o the recent winning playoff let alone SB record Brady had? Ok Aaron. https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/aaron-rodgers-major-playoff-struggles-vs-49ers-shown-stat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 The MVP honors has become almost as much of a joke as Pro Bowl votes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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