Blainorama5 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, FFadpecr said: On offense....they have issues specifically along the Offensive Line....which can easily be fixed with the #5 and #7 overall picks in the draft LOL if it's so easy with just a couple of draft picks, why doesn't every team have a super amazing O line? High picks are often hit or miss propositions and O lines take time to become great (or even good). Not sure if you are a huge Giants fan, a crazy Daboll fan or just have a man crush on Jones. In any of those cases, there are message boards devoted to all things Giants. Not much relevant to Bills fans here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, FFadpecr said: What issues? The Giants don't have that many issues. The defensive roster is solid. They have DL, LB, S, and CB. A few additions here and there like any team. On offense....they have issues specifically along the Offensive Line....which can easily be fixed with the #5 and #7 overall picks in the draft (great OT and IOL prospects in this draft). The one big issue the Giants have is their O-Line (Bottom 3 unit). Fix the O-Line (very easy to do with #5 and #7 picks), and everything else on the roster is decent to good. Just admit that you're wrong about this and move on. Just because YOU personally disagree with Daboll's football opinion (what makes you think you know more about NFL QB play than Daboll?) doesn't mean that Daboll doesn't have that particular football opinion. Stop trying to pass off what you WANT to believe, as fact. I don’t care whether he likes him or not, but I will remember you when Mitch beats him out in TC for the starting job. what are you saying I’m wrong about exactly? I never said he didn’t like him. I said it’s something people when they want a HC job, and it may or may not be true. Edited January 31, 2022 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strethor Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Daniel Jones is a top 32 NFL QB - with the services of Daboll he is now a top 20 QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I've only been responding because I'm really slow at work right now and I'm bored.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, FFadpecr said: You still don't get it. Daboll took the job in large part BECAUSE of Daniel Jones. Strictly as a QB, Daboll likes Jones much more than Tua, Fields, etc. Daniel Jones is a perfect fit in Daboll's Erhardt-Perkins Offense, and Daboll knows that obvious reality better than anyone. Counter: I don’t think he was making a decision based on any of the three suddenly becoming the guy any more than you could argue McDermott hitched himself to tyrod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Time will tell but I think Daboll would have been run out of town if Josh Allen didn't make him look good. Also we may never know but around half way thru the season I do believe he was told we will have a running game with or without you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, FFadpecr said: Man, you're completely missing the point. You're going off on a tangent. Welcome to TBD my friend. It's what we do. 😉👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Here's your Daboll fix.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Is it still considered a "walk of shame" if you're going INTO the building and not leaving it ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bob Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 It doesn't matter what he says in a press conference. Let's see what the Giants do between now and week 1. Their actions will tell the truth about how confident they are that Jones can develop into a winning QB1 in the NFL. If Mitch T is brought in and there is an open competition for the starting job... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Suit looks like it is about to bust out at the seams! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) well at least he was smart enough to not coach Miami, jones has 1000 times the potential than Tua. Edited January 31, 2022 by gordong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 So much for Trubisky following him….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, FFadpecr said: Bill Belichick (Erhardt-Perkins Offense) loved Daniel Jones in the 2019 Draft. Would have drafted Daniel if he fell to him. For the last 2 years, Daniel Jones was stuck in an antiquated Jason Garrett Air Coryell Offense. A completely outdated Offense in the modern NFL. Brian Daboll (Erhardt-Perkins Offense) understands the above and knows that Daniel is a perfect match for the EPO. Daboll knows scheme fits - he knows Daniel Jones' skill-set is tailor-made for the Erhardt-Perkins system. EP , Coryell, west coast are ALL verbiage systems now Not an offensive playbook with specific plays like back in the day... All 3 use overlapping concepts now EP offense or coryell can call the same plays ... They just call the plays in with different lingo West coast verbiage and Coryell verbiage are much more complicated than EP which is why EP system is popular Edited January 31, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Daboll leaves and becomes an instant drug addict??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, FFadpecr said: you completely miss the point. Let me make this really simple for you: Brian Daboll is moving Daniel Jones from an outdated, antiquated Offense from the last 2 years, to a now modern Offense tailored to his skill-set. Period. It may have been antiquated but it has nothing to do with EP or coryell systems honestly There are coaches who run terrible EP offenses too Daniel Jones had bad coaching... It's hard to look good with bad coaching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nihilarian Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 If you talked to Brain Daboll just previous to the 2018 season starting...he was very high on Nathan Peterman. That 2018 Ravens team destroyed the Bills QB's and their OC had no answers. A 47-3 loss and Bills QB's running for their lives...literally. Nathan Peterman 5 of 18 for 24 yards, 2 INT, 3x sacks all in 2 1/2 quarters of that opener. Josh Allen entered the game in the 3rd quarter with 11:22 to go. 5 of 15 for 74 yards, 3x sacks. The Buffalo drives in that game, Punt, Punt, Punt, Punt, Missed FG, INT, Punt, end of half, Downs, INT, Punt, FG, Punt, Punt, end of game. That missed FG in the first half by Buffalo was setup by a fumble forced by Edmunds at the Baltimore 35. From there it went, penalty, incomplete, one yard run, sacked -5 yards. The Buffalo Bills finished that 2018 season 6-10 and mostly because rookie QB Josh Allen emerged as a decent running QB that was able to survive a very bad offensive line. Allen being the leading rusher on that years team that season. If Daboll is left to his own devices and doesn't hire some really good assistants... he will fail quickly in NY. His jobs life expectancy is so dependent on who he hires to support him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Daniel Jones has talent. We’ve seen flashes. About as many flashes as Jimmy G, and he was just in another conference championship game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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