JohnNord Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I suppose I'm partly pissed off that the Ravens managed to get 2 - 3rd round picks by shoving (excuse me, lobbying for and recommending) their under-qualified "Passing Game Coordinator" out the door into a bad HC situation where he only lasted a year. I don't think that really is the kind of developmental coaching pipeline that the 2 3rd round picks were supposed to encourage teams to pursue. SI and ESPN are reporting that only 2 years of Culley's 5 year contract were guaranteed. SI has this to say: The above is also pissing me off. Yeah it’s a bad situation all around. Houston wasn’t the Trainwreck everyone expected them to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, JohnNord said: I feel bad for him but he knew exactly what he getting into. There’s a reason Brian Daboll refused to interview in Houston. It was Caserio’s plan from the start to hire a coach short term considering the roster was the weakest in the NFL and would not be desirable to big name. Someone like Daboll who has 20 some years of coaching ahead of him can afford to be selective. Older coaches like Culley or Frazier do not. As soon as they hired Culley everyone suggested he was set up to fail. They picked him as he had lots of coaching experience that would be agreeable and would help with the locker room culture and team PR. He was not really qualified to be a head coach, having never worked above a position level coach for 30 years. I’ll say he made the most of a bad situation and fated a lot better than most expected. It is pretty ***** how they treated him but then again, we are talking about Houston Texans. At the end of the day, this was what he signed up for. All fair points of view. Let's hope Culley is laughing all the way to the bank. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: All fair points of view. Let's hope Culley is laughing all the way to the bank. No he is… literally. They owe him $17M over the final 3 years of his deal. A nice little nest egg for him and his family. It has to be killing him though. He waited his whole career for this and ended up getting screwed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) Culley got paid, pretty much knew the job was a joke. The league wont blame him for the poor season. He leaves with $$$$$, his rep intact, and best of all, he gets away from that terrible mess. Good for him imo. Edited January 13, 2022 by bigduke6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Everyone put on your tinfoil hats, I have a theory. What if Culley was always the fall guy? He seemed unqualified from the start. The Texans knew this would be a lost season ... perhaps Frazier was their guy all along and they wanted to punt on one season because they knew this one would be a dumpster fire. Let's see if Frazier gets hired. I bet he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Everyone put on your tinfoil hats, I have a theory. What if Culley was always the fall guy? He seemed unqualified from the start. The Texans knew this would be a lost season ... perhaps Frazier was their guy all along and they wanted to punt on one season because they knew this one would be a dumpster fire. Let's see if Frazier gets hired. I bet he does. For Buffalo hockey fans - kind of like when they hired Ted Nolan the 2nd time (to oversee the tank)? Nolan certainly had to know that there was no chance of success and that he would get canned. That said, he pocketed $3M or so for his efforts. He also had the team playing well enough that they ALMOST blew the top-2 draft pick (but he didn't, he got canned, the Sabres got the pick and 5 years later, the player selected was moving on, and the Sabres were/are still at the bottom of the league). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 30 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Everyone put on your tinfoil hats, I have a theory. What if Culley was always the fall guy? He seemed unqualified from the start. The Texans knew this would be a lost season ... perhaps Frazier was their guy all along and they wanted to punt on one season because they knew this one would be a dumpster fire. Let's see if Frazier gets hired. I bet he does. It's not really a conspiracy theory when it's fact. Culley was always a stop-gap, temporary solution who could have the rug pulled at any time, but got his HC gig and $8M before retiring. He went into this eyes wide open. Pretty sure they're after Flores tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Why would Flores want that job? He'll surely have other options. The organization will still be a complete mess for at least another 1-2 seasons. Nobody with options is taking the Texans' job on the off chance Watson is even cleared to play, let alone wants to stay. The next coach will be in the same position Culley was and will likely be gone in a year or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 47 minutes ago, JohnNord said: No he is… literally. They owe him $17M over the final 3 years of his deal. A nice little nest egg for him and his family. It has to be killing him though. He waited his whole career for this and ended up getting screwed I'm sure he has always wanted a HC opportunity, and a serious one. Perhaps, like with Chan, the opportunity he got will lead to other opportunities. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Hard to believe the Texans were the team that not only made it to the playoffs two years ago, but actually beat the Bills. 52 minutes ago, JohnNord said: No he is… literally. They owe him $17M over the final 3 years of his deal. A nice little nest egg for him and his family. It has to be killing him though. He waited his whole career for this and ended up getting screwed He not only gets the $17M, he also showed the league that he can actually coach. This lemon could turn into lemonade for him. Plus, $17M in the bank if nothing else works out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, 947 said: Why would Flores want that job? He'll surely have other options. The organization will still be a complete mess for at least another 1-2 seasons. Nobody with options is taking the Texans' job on the off chance Watson is even cleared to play, let alone wants to stay. The next coach will be in the same position Culley was and will likely be gone in a year or 2. This is why I think Frazier gets it. He showed he wanted it, they had him down to the final two, and I don't think anyone else will want the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloButt Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 He still gets paid for not working so he actually is the winner!! Crap situation but Cully still makes out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Almost like they knew he was sacrificial when they hired him. No QB, no draft picks, zero way to improve the team in one year knowing he came into an untalented roster. Yet, you fire him for being ineffective like there was any other possible outcome this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 To each their own. I certainly can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Smith Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, JohnNord said: No he is… literally. They owe him $17M over the final 3 years of his deal. A nice little nest egg for him and his family. It has to be killing him though. He waited his whole career for this and ended up getting screwed actually it is 22 million. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Claude Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: t's not really a conspiracy theory when it's fact. Culley was always a stop-gap, temporary solution who could have the rug pulled at any time, but got his HC gig and $8M before retiring. He went into this eyes wide open. Pretty sure they're after Flores tho. These stories were pretty much around during and after the hiring process. At the time, it was believed that they really wanted Josh McCown to be head coach but the bad optics of hiring their buddy with zero coaching experience over more qualified minority candidates was just too much to overcome. After that, there were stories floating they were going to force the new coach to hire McCown as their OC and then have the new coach groom McCown to take over. https://www.si.com/nfl/texans/news/texans-breaking-qb-mccown-released-is-he-houstons-next-coach Edited January 14, 2022 by Billy Claude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: He did have Tuh Rod! I was watching some of the Jets-Texans game about a month and a half ago because I had bet the Texans. (They were at home and the Jets are lousy) Tyrod was their QB, and I started watching about 5 min into the second half. He did not get one first down the entire rest of the game. Could not complete a 5 yard out. He was terrible. And the Jets came back won the game and I lost my bet. That being said, I thought Culley got the most out of that crap team. That's a tough place to coach. I think he was better then Joe Judge for whatever that's worth. LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Another one bites the dust.... IG: JosinaAnderson @JosinaAnderson I'm told David Culley informed the staff that he has been fired, per league source. No surprise considering how that team is run. He should never have been picked in first place no matter what their QB wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: This is so unfair. It is clear now that they hired him as some stop gap In a lost season, who they could just throw away. So disrespectful. He actually did a heck of a job— those guys played better and better and played hard for him. Just very unfair. He actually tried...unlike B.O.B 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That is like the biggest farce ever. That poor guy got handed the rawest of raw deals with the roster and the QB situation. He actually managed to pull the team together and win over the Titans and the Chargers. Now he's gotten canned after 1 season, while the Ravens get 2 - 3rd round draft picks as a reward for shoving the poor guy out the door into a crappy situation. Sheesh. The Texans are a disgrace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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