JaCrispy Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) I’ve never been, and am seriously looking to get out of NYS before sh!t hits the fan...any help would be appreciated...thanks! 👍 Edited December 28, 2021 by JaCrispy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I’ve never been, and am seriously looking to get out of NYS before sh!t hits the fan... What sh!t, are you a fugitive? If you’re worried about Covid, Florida is one of the worst places to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, PastaJoe said: What sh!t, are you a fugitive? If you’re worried about Covid, Florida is one of the worst places to go. Lol...no fugitive here...just looking to relocate...👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I’ve never been, and am seriously looking to get out of NYS before sh!t hits the fan...any help would be appreciated...thanks! 👍 Stay North - to avoid the worst of the heat - Jacksonville and environs. St. Augustine gets pricey. Palm Coast is OK. Stay away from Gainesville and Tallahasee (college towns) IF you have to go south - Melbourne and Port St. Lucie are cool I am not familiar with the Gulf Coast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Warden said: Stay North - to avoid the worst of the heat - Jacksonville and environs. St. Augustine gets pricey. Palm Coast is OK. Stay away from Gainesville and Tallahasee (college towns) IF you have to go south - Melbourne and Port St. Lucie are cool I am not familiar with the Gulf Coast Better to stay inland instead of the coasts because of hurricanes, you think? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 What does mildly affordable mean to you? I just did a look at my area... suburb of Tampa... the other day. There was nothing below 350 other than mobile homes in retiree communities... they were less than 100. Some of them looked pretty nice actually if you don't want much of a yard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Here's a nearby area to look at... and by the way, if a big hurricane rolls though there isn't much difference between the beach and inland, this state is pretty narrow. https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Riverview_FL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: Better to stay inland instead of the coasts because of hurricanes, you think? It gets hotter inland, just be aware of that. If you’re not in a flood zone the insurance isn’t too bad. Most people want to be near the water and beaches, however, and then you pay. Unfortunately, nowhere I know of in the state is reasonably priced right now. Not great timing. My goal in life is to get at least a part time place back in Sarasota. We lived there 18 years, longer than I lived in WNY leaving for college at 17. I looked a couple month ago at our old neighborhood of over 400 houses. Not a single active listing, so I expanded to the place we rented our last year there (so our son could finish high school where he started). Now this is over a thousand houses between two neighborhoods….and there was only ONE active listing. A few more listings now, but they feel they can ask anything they want. Sarasota in particular is a hot market, but I’m not sure what areas are much better. Smaller places with less “culture” are far more affordable, but it depends on what you are looking for. I’m OK without the symphony or the opera, but I like the restaurants and bars, etc Sarasota offers. I was an appraiser there for 13 years after my banking days and watched the ups and downs. Going up 35% two years in a row is insane! That means roughly a $200k house (the cheapest thing in Sarasota then) went to $365k in 24 months. That’s what happened back then. Unsustainable. Then came the first quarter of 2006, and you couldn’t GIVE real estate away there. I’m hoping my roughly 5 year time line works out to buy back at the next bottom. I don’t know your situation, but I’d be careful about buying at the top, then finding yourself under water. I hope you find your dream place, whenever and wherever that may be. Good luck! . Edited December 29, 2021 by Augie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 2 hours ago, JaCrispy said: I’ve never been, and am seriously looking to get out of NYS before sh!t hits the fan...any help would be appreciated...thanks! 👍 i remember a friend of my brother in law in the Ohio snow belt bolted for St. Petersburg. Said it was super affordable— like decent houses close to the beach for $200’s. It’s been a few years, so I am not sure if much has changed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 29, 2021 Author Share Posted December 29, 2021 42 minutes ago, Augie said: It gets hotter inland, just be aware of that. If you’re not in a flood zone the insurance isn’t too bad. Most people want to be near the water and beaches, however, and then you pay. Unfortunately, nowhere I know of in the state is reasonably priced right now. Not great timing. My goal in life is to get at least a part time place back in Sarasota. We lived there 18 years, longer than I lived in WNY leaving for college at 17. I looked a couple month ago at our old neighborhood of over 400 houses. Not a single active listing, so I expanded to the place we rented our last year there (so our son could finish high school where he started). Now this is over a thousand houses between two neighborhoods….and there was only ONE active listing. A few more listings now, but they feel they can ask anything they want. Sarasota in particular is hot, but I’m not sure what areas are much better. Smaller places with less “culture” are far more affordable, but it depends on what you are looking for. I’m OK without the symphony or the opera, but I like the restaurants and bars, etc Sarasota offers. I was an appraiser there for 13 years after my banking days and watched the ups and downs. Going up 35% two years in a row is insane! That means roughly a $200k house (the cheapest thing in Sarasota then) went to $365k in 24 months. That’s what happened back then. Unsustainable. Then came the first quarter of 2006, and you couldn’t GIVE real estate away there. I’m hoping my roughly 5 year time line works out to buy back at the next bottom. I don’t know your situation, but I’d be careful about buying at the top, then finding yourself under water. I hope you find your dream place, whenever and wherever that may be. Good luck! . This is awesome, Augie...thanks for the insight...👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 36 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: This is awesome, Augie...thanks for the insight...👍 The cheap areas to live are inland and further north, where the state changes dramatically and becomes the southern most reaches of the deep south. I wouldn't live up north for all the tea in China, but everyone is different. I'm in Palm Beach County, which is sort of the northernmost development of southeast coastline. Not very far from here, inland or north, you can find pretty cheap housing. Look at places like Stuart or Port Saint Lucie...they are not that far north of where I am, but way cheaper. They also aren't nearly as nice and have a redneck feel to them, but that is for everyone to figure out on their own and you might love it there, or at least not be bothered by it. The weather is the same there! If you are serious about moving to FL, you can make it happen if you want to. Don't forget too--no state income tax here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Better to stay inland instead of the coasts because of hurricanes, you think? Florida doesn't really have much inland unless you are talking about North Florida. Most of the middle is marsh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) My in-laws have their in-laws in Cape Coral which is southeast of Sarasota or North West of Naples. Too me that seems "affordable". The west coast is quieter there than the east coast and not as built up. It always comes down to your budget and what you can put up with. As long as both of those are good its more than doable. Also, as everyone "can work from anywhere" I'm not sure the mass exodus of the northeast will stop anytime soon. So I think real estate in the south will remain high for quite sometime. Just my 2 cents on this real estate market down here. If you are real close to the water, there are evacuation zones. but those places usually cost a fortune. If a townhome is an option you can easily save 100k vs single family. Edited December 29, 2021 by qwksilver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, qwksilver said: My in-laws have their in-laws in Cape Coral which is southeast of Sarasota or North West of Naples. Too me that seems "affordable". The west coast is quieter there than the east coast and not as built up. It always comes down to your budget and what you can put up with. As long as both of those are good its more than doable. Also, as everyone "can work from anywhere" I'm not sure the mass exodus of the northeast will stop anytime soon. So I think real estate in the south will remain high for quite sometime. Just my 2 cents on this real estate market down here. If you are real close to the water, there are evacuation zones. but those places usually cost a fortune. If a townhome is an option you can easily save 100k vs single family. The evacuation zones are only for those living really close to the water. I live about 3 miles from the coast and we are beyond the furthest zone, meaning, we will never have to evacuate. Living like this is ideal IMO; I would not want to be right on the beach or east of the intercostal anyway. Nor would I want to live way out where it takes a half hour to get to the beach. Naples is a nice but small area. There are places all over where the OP can find some happiness without it costing a fortune. In my area the property values are only going to keep going up; we are like NYC south now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: The evacuation zones are only for those living really close to the water. I live about 3 miles from the coast and we are beyond the furthest zone, meaning, we will never have to evacuate. Living like this is ideal IMO; I would not want to be right on the beach or east of the intercostal anyway. Nor would I want to live way out where it takes a half hour to get to the beach. Naples is a nice but small area. There are places all over where the OP can find some happiness without it costing a fortune. In my area the property values are only going to keep going up; we are like NYC south now. I live in West Broward County. What I could sell my house for I could probably retire, but I'm not sure where we could move to. The housing market is still on fire. I can't believe what people are paying. I don't understand how people can afford it.... I sold a 3 BR 2 Ba 2300 sqft on 1/2 an acre 25 minutes from the beach in 2004 for 375K. It's now valued at 750k by Zillow (so might sell higher since they added a pool). This house was 550k 3 years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 45 minutes ago, TBBills said: Florida doesn't really have much inland unless you are talking about North Florida. Most of the middle is marsh. Most of the middle isn't marsh lol... the green swamp area maybe but no way. I could sell my place for probably 150k profit right now but where would we get another house. I'm really taking a hard look at the markets in other states right now... we hate it here for 6-7 months out of the year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, T&C said: Most of the middle isn't marsh lol... the green swamp area maybe but no way. I could sell my place for probably 150k profit right now but where would we get another house. I'm really taking a hard look at the markets in other states right now... we hate it here for 6-7 months out of the year. Most of the middle of the state is farmland, miles and miles of farming, not marsh, that produces your citrus and tomatoes. As you get up near Ocala it’s horse country and looks a lot like Kentucky. Be careful @JaCrispy who you listen to here. Also be careful with your timing on a buy in the area. A lot of people have been looking at GA and SC as far less expensive alternatives, so that’s worth looking into as well. Still mild winters, and not so ridiculously expensive. . Edited December 29, 2021 by Augie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 29, 2021 Author Share Posted December 29, 2021 29 minutes ago, T&C said: Most of the middle isn't marsh lol... the green swamp area maybe but no way. I could sell my place for probably 150k profit right now but where would we get another house. I'm really taking a hard look at the markets in other states right now... we hate it here for 6-7 months out of the year. Why, T? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Why, T? The heat gets annoying, just like the gray and cold does up north. It’s not that any one day is so hot, or so cold, but the season lasts a LONG time. I happen to like the heat. My wife hates it. Hence, our (MY) goal is a place in FL for 6 months and a day, to qualify as a resident and avoid state income taxes and get homestead exemption (your property taxes can only go up like 2-3% a year as a resident) and have a place to avoid the heat and get a break in the hottest months. I kinda like it, but the wife can’t handle the duration. For close to 6 months in Sarasota it’s a low of 75 and a high of 90 give or take 2-3 degrees. VERY consistent, but too long for her. . Edited December 29, 2021 by Augie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 58 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Why, T? The heat is oppressive along with the humidity. I won't play golf in the summer... and getting into a parked car is like getting into an oven. Darting from AC to AC isn't my cup of meat but some people seem to like it. The fishing is pretty good though. Georgia/SC/NC is where I'm looking at... maybe even the very north of PA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, T&C said: The heat is oppressive along with the humidity. I won't play golf in the summer... and getting into a parked car is like getting into an oven. Darting from AC to AC isn't my cup of meat but some people seem to like it. The fishing is pretty good though. Georgia/SC/NC is where I'm looking at... maybe even the very north of PA. I’ve got to tell you, I lived In Hilton Head, SC and work took me to Charleston and Columbia regularly. It was WAY hotter there than Sarasota. I promise! It NEVER hit 100 in Sarasota (the weatherman even said it, get past 95 and you get a thunderstorm. BOOM, back to 75), but did regularly in HHI. Like 3 straight weeks when I worked construction there during a summer in college. Funny story, I was nervous about SW FL after a dozen years in HHI. Moved to Sarasota in 1993, before everyone had a computer and printer in every room, and I went into a place to get resumes’ printed. The ladies in there were in a back room and didn’t here me come in. I heard one say “I just came back from the hottest two %$^ $%#^ weeks of my life in %^%^$#% Hilton Head!” That gave me hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 hours ago, T&C said: The heat is oppressive along with the humidity. I won't play golf in the summer... and getting into a parked car is like getting into an oven. Darting from AC to AC isn't my cup of meat but some people seem to like it. The fishing is pretty good though. Georgia/SC/NC is where I'm looking at... maybe even the very north of PA. The very north of PA would love to have you. Nobody lives there and the population is shrinking all the time. All of Potter County has less than 17k people and has a population density of 16 people per square mile. Erie County, NY is over 900/square mile I live in SEPA now and I generally like it. It's far enough north that it doesn't get blazing hot and it's far enough south and close enough to the ocean that it doesn't get super cold either. I'm in Southern Chester County about 45 miles from Philly and if you go a little further out towards Maryland it gets cheaper. There are lots of retirees in this part of PA and the tax structure is favorable for retirees. Southern Delaware is pretty cheap and is fairly close to the beach. It's very rural, lots and lots of farms and not a lot else but if that's what you are looking for then the weather is generally pretty good and the overall DE tax situation is generally more favorable than NY. But it's worse for retirees than PA and the state income tax is the highest in the country. Property taxes are low. I guess it depends on what you want and why you are leaving NY. I wouldn't live in Florida for free and the parts of GA and NC I'd want to live in aren't cheap. My wife's company is based in Toombs County, GA and it's also super rural. Houses I'd want to live in if we moved there aren't a whole lot cheaper than the houses in my current area. Taxes are considerably less but there is also a distinct difference in what you get from the area. Where we live now is moderately rural but there are enough people with enough money around that there are quite a lot of good restaurants to eat at and a lot of things to do. In that part of GA, the restaurant situation is bleak and there isn't even a decent grocery store, just the Wal-Mart. For quality of life that would be important to me. I like to have a good meal at a good restaurant or be able to cook a good meal at my house with good ingredients. I like to be able to choose from multiple kinds of food. I like to have the option to do a multitude of things in a relatively short drive from my house. From Toombs County, to get a decent meal, you need to drive to Savannah which is 90 minutes away. Where I live now I have all of that at my fingertips and I don't have to deal with a city unless I want to. For me, that's perfect. It's dark and quiet where I live, my kids go to a good school, my property taxes are tolerable, I can have a peaceful day every day if I want to or I can be anywhere from NY to Washington, I can be at the beach in either NJ, DE or MD, or I can be in the mountains all under 2.5 hours depending on which direction I choose to drive. We've talked about relocating several times and lord knows the company would like us to move to GA. While the taxes would be less, we'd have to pay for private school because those cheaper taxes very much come at the expense of the local school district and there are a host of other lifestyle and quality of life issues that would crop up if we moved there. All added together it's not worth it so we stay where we are and my wife works remotely and flies down there 5 or 6 weeks a year. I guess what I'm saying is the places in this country that are cheap are cheap for a reason. Find out what that reason is and make sure you can tolerate it before you commit yourself to living there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 4 hours ago, That's No Moon said: The very north of PA would love to have you. Nobody lives there and the population is shrinking all the time. All of Potter County has less than 17k people and has a population density of 16 people per square mile. Erie County, NY is over 900/square mile I live in SEPA now and I generally like it. It's far enough north that it doesn't get blazing hot and it's far enough south and close enough to the ocean that it doesn't get super cold either. I'm in Southern Chester County about 45 miles from Philly and if you go a little further out towards Maryland it gets cheaper. There are lots of retirees in this part of PA and the tax structure is favorable for retirees. Southern Delaware is pretty cheap and is fairly close to the beach. It's very rural, lots and lots of farms and not a lot else but if that's what you are looking for then the weather is generally pretty good and the overall DE tax situation is generally more favorable than NY. But it's worse for retirees than PA and the state income tax is the highest in the country. Property taxes are low. I guess it depends on what you want and why you are leaving NY. I wouldn't live in Florida for free and the parts of GA and NC I'd want to live in aren't cheap. My wife's company is based in Toombs County, GA and it's also super rural. Houses I'd want to live in if we moved there aren't a whole lot cheaper than the houses in my current area. Taxes are considerably less but there is also a distinct difference in what you get from the area. Where we live now is moderately rural but there are enough people with enough money around that there are quite a lot of good restaurants to eat at and a lot of things to do. In that part of GA, the restaurant situation is bleak and there isn't even a decent grocery store, just the Wal-Mart. For quality of life that would be important to me. I like to have a good meal at a good restaurant or be able to cook a good meal at my house with good ingredients. I like to be able to choose from multiple kinds of food. I like to have the option to do a multitude of things in a relatively short drive from my house. From Toombs County, to get a decent meal, you need to drive to Savannah which is 90 minutes away. Where I live now I have all of that at my fingertips and I don't have to deal with a city unless I want to. For me, that's perfect. It's dark and quiet where I live, my kids go to a good school, my property taxes are tolerable, I can have a peaceful day every day if I want to or I can be anywhere from NY to Washington, I can be at the beach in either NJ, DE or MD, or I can be in the mountains all under 2.5 hours depending on which direction I choose to drive. We've talked about relocating several times and lord knows the company would like us to move to GA. While the taxes would be less, we'd have to pay for private school because those cheaper taxes very much come at the expense of the local school district and there are a host of other lifestyle and quality of life issues that would crop up if we moved there. All added together it's not worth it so we stay where we are and my wife works remotely and flies down there 5 or 6 weeks a year. I guess what I'm saying is the places in this country that are cheap are cheap for a reason. Find out what that reason is and make sure you can tolerate it before you commit yourself to living there. I'm in Chester county also and agree 100% with what you said about the SEPA/MD/DE area 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) Sister Inlaw and husband moved to Delaware. They love it. Lived in pa before the move. near Lewis beach. Edited December 29, 2021 by mead107 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Why Florida? My wife and I are in Tennessee (Knoxville specifically) as it is her hometown. We love it. Four seasons and the winter is very mild. (Yesterday in an admittedly unusual December the AC actually briefly kicked in while I was running errands in my Jeep - I have it set to “auto” temp at 70). There are no State income taxes, the job market is very hot, utilities are very affordable and people are nice. A downside right now is that real estate has really shot up as many people are coming in from elsewhere and snapping up the limited number of homes for sale. That situation will probably improve some as builders get busy again. Traffic has also become a bit of an issue depending on where you live and work. Take a look. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Sister / BIL live in Jacksonville Beach FL. I can't believe the prices. 😲 Parents live in The Villages (just south of Ocala). Hotter than Hades from July through September. They usally take some sort of vacation in Aug / Sept time frame. I'll take Ohio any time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 4 hours ago, mead107 said: Sister Inlaw and husband moved to Delaware. They love it. Lived in pa before the move. near Lewis beach. Lewes is nice. That part of Delaware is fine if you dont have school age kids. When you are near the shore in Lewes or Dewey or Rehoboth it's pricier than it is more inland in the more rural less beachy part near Georgetown for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 10 hours ago, That's No Moon said: The very north of PA would love to have you. Nobody lives there and the population is shrinking all the time. All of Potter County has less than 17k people and has a population density of 16 people per square mile. Erie County, NY is over 900/square mile That's an area I like for several reasons. I have a ton of relatives and friends back in WNY... my Mom was 1 of 13 and my Dad 1 of 4 so you can imagine. Its close enough to be a decent ride back to the homelands but Not in NYS... so not the horrible taxes. We'd be able to buy season tickets for the Bills and go to which games we want. Close enough to hit places like Watkins Glen, Letchworth, wine country, etc. and not too bad of a ride to Allegany, the lakes. Here's another reason... not high on the list but certainly worth noting... if you look at the 506 maps for Bills tv coverage the northern part, for around 100 miles, always has the game on OTA. I like to be out of town but near the town if that makes any sense. Not the boonies but if it takes 20 minutes to drive to a grocery store I'm good with that. All said, NPA is just one place I've been looking at. Wherever we wind up it has to have some hills, mountains, contour to the land... Florida is flat as *****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) Everyone thinks the grass is greener in other states... guess what it's same shade of ***** color run by garbage government officials. You think b.c of your political view you would enjoy Florida which is the running theme for some reason, but you will find its all the same. Edited December 29, 2021 by TBBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Too bad you didn't move before covid. Since then everything has doubled in prices in my area. Even rent is out of control down here. I'm on east coast Daytona area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 13 hours ago, That's No Moon said: The very north of PA would love to have you. Nobody lives there and the population is shrinking all the time. All of Potter County has less than 17k people and has a population density of 16 people per square mile. Erie County, NY is over 900/square mile Or how about Tioga County? Wellsboro, PA is one of the nicest towns I have been to. Quaint town, and you are right in the “Grand Canyon of Pennsylvania.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 49 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Or how about Tioga County? Wellsboro, PA is one of the nicest towns I have been to. Quaint town, and you are right in the “Grand Canyon of Pennsylvania.” I just took a look at Wellsboro... exactly the kind of place I'd like to live in or around. Perfect location. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 minute ago, T&C said: I just took a look at Wellsboro... exactly the kind of place I'd like to live in or around. Perfect location. we went camping in the Grand Canyon of Pennsylvania about 10 years ago. It rained the first night, so we headed into the nearby town of Wellsboro. I was just struck at how nice it was. Old Victorian homes; wide streets and sidewalks; gas lamps down the streets; quaint shops and restaurants. I am not sure how a neat little affluent quaint town is out there (maybe old timber money and tourism?), but it was such a gem. You can probably live right in the town, or in a number of woodsy areas outside of there. Then, in the area, you have these beautiful mountains, gorge, and like 100 miles of rail trails. you are also less than an hour to Watkins Glenn And that area of southern NY. I think the only downside is that it is remote— I am not sure what the nearest airport is. Probably a regional one? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) On 12/29/2021 at 4:55 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said: we went camping in the Grand Canyon of Pennsylvania about 10 years ago. It rained the first night, so we headed into the nearby town of Wellsboro. I was just struck at how nice it was. Old Victorian homes; wide streets and sidewalks; gas lamps down the streets; quaint shops and restaurants. I am not sure how a neat little affluent quaint town is out there (maybe old timber money and tourism?), but it was such a gem. You can probably live right in the town, or in a number of woodsy areas outside of there. Then, in the area, you have these beautiful mountains, gorge, and like 100 miles of rail trails. you are also less than an hour to Watkins Glenn And that area of southern NY. I think the only downside is that it is remote— I am not sure what the nearest airport is. Probably a regional one? Your description of this quaint little town reminds me of Middleburg, Virginia...which Washington DC people will probably know, only Middleburg is incredibly expensive! But Middleburg is probably the quaintest little town I've ever seen in America. Middleburg is known as the "Nation's Horse and Hunt Capital" for its foxhunting, steeplechases, and large estates. LOL Edited December 31, 2021 by Nextmanup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Your description of this quaint little town reminds me of Middleburg, Virginia...which Washington DC people will probably know, only Middleburg is incredibly expensive! But Middleburg is probably the quaintest little town I've ever seen in America. Middleburg is known as the "Nation's Horse and Hunt Capital" for its foxhunting, steeplechases, and large estates. LOL That town looks great! Straight out of a Hallmark Christmas movie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/28/2021 at 7:23 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said: i remember a friend of my brother in law in the Ohio snow belt bolted for St. Petersburg. Said it was super affordable— like decent houses close to the beach for $200’s. It’s been a few years, so I am not sure if much has changed. Don't think you can find a decent house in the 200s now close to St Pete Beach ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Housing market in florida is outrageous right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Older brother just sold his house in Port Charlotte. Laughing all the way to the bank 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 17 hours ago, Helpmenow said: Older brother just sold his house in Port Charlotte. Laughing all the way to the bank Selling your house at the top of the market is awesome. Until you remember you need a place to live and have to buy a house during peak market. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Selling your house at the top of the market is awesome. Until you remember you need a place to live and have to buy a house during peak market. ...unless you are done with home ownership, and are downsizing to an apartment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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