Clark Rotary Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 RIP George Blanda - but Carolina needed him yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Clark Rotary said: RIP George Blanda - but Carolina needed him yesterday Or Lou Groza, who was also an all-pro tackle for the Browns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: He does. It is Hyde Yes - the Bills did some “fun” games where they have guys do them for fun. We saw them before practice in the past do this. He had 2 or 3 guys that he knew could kick just practice a bit for emergencies. Guys he knew would be active. Just like he has Hyde ready for return duty if needed and McKenzie ready for CB duty if needed. This would not have happened the same way here - that is for sure. He would have a back-up holder ready and the punter to kick and a backup ready in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Daryl Lamonica, the backup QB was the punter in 1963. We upgraded to Gogolak and Maguire in 1964. Trading Lamonica is the only thing keeping 'losing to Jacksonville, 2021' from being the #1 travesty in Buffalo Bills history. 🤨 * 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: If I were a kicker struggling to make a team i'de practice long snapping. A long snapper that can kick would always have a roster spot. How is having a kicker be a crappy long snapper on the off chance you have a kicker injury any better than just going for it on 4th down and going for 2? I'd much rather have no kicker for (part of) 1 game than a subpar LS every game. While that struggling kicker-turned-LS is practicing snaps, he's not practicing kicks, and will be an even worse backup kicker for it. In your proposed scenario, you now have a subpar backup LS snapping to a subpar backup kicker. Edited December 20, 2021 by 1ManRaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Booth lustig 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: How is having a kicker be a crappy long snapper on the off chance you have a kicker injury any better than just going for it on 4th down and going for 2? I'd much rather have no kicker for (part of) 1 game than a subpar LS every game. While that struggling kicker-turned-LS is practicing snaps, he's not practicing kicks, and will be an even worse backup kicker for it. In your proposed scenario, you now have a subpar backup LS snapping to a subpar backup kicker. Why would he be a crappy long snapper? He'd have to be able to snap the ball well. Honestly it would work for any position. Learn how to kick. I'm sure if someone spent time learning to kick they'd get good enough to attempt extra points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Again...it isn't about "can he learn how to kick". In a live setting it is 95% about timing that has been practiced over and over and over again. The difference between a made kick and a blocked kick in a live setting is probably a few tenths of a second. It would be near impossible for a player who hasn't had any practice with timing to do this in a live game randomly. Kicking with a player who does not practice regularly is more likely to result in blocked kick, blown snap or fumble. I do like Hyde as emergency kicker though who has good hands and would attempt to make first down in fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Did you need a comma for that statement? 🤨 Nope 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: Booth lustig He should have dropped the 'h'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 The Bills used to carry a backup kicker as a kickoff specialist. Brad Daluiso in 1991, John Potter 2012 and Jordan Gay 2014 & parts of 2015 & 2016. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Jerome007 said: Long snappers, 3rd QB, players... what about the PUNTER practicing field goals? Don't tell me that these guys, with obviously very strong legs, don't have 2-3 sessions of 20 minutes a week to also practice field goals (and field goal pickers practicing punts). No they wouldn't turn into great ones, but they could certainly make 33 yards and under ones fairly regularly. They said the issue with the Carolina punter is he's from Australia and played their style football which doesn't involve place kicking so has never done it. For most teams the punter could kick FG in emergency. Admittedly is surprising when they signed the punter they didn't have him practice kicking FG's too. Wouldn't be surprised if that is what he's doing right now though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: I guess Pj Walker was one in HS but he was bad in emergency try-outs. Their punter was an aussie rules guy so he had no PK experience. Just a bad situation which were during warmups. How does any team not have a plan for kicker if theirs suddenly goes out? I bet for most teams its the punter. But if it's not---how do you not "try out" alternatives waaaay before warmups in the game in which you K can't answer the bell?? Also, how is a punter not be able to make a decent attempt at kicking a stationary football? Why wouldn't he practice that?--he's got nothing else to do all week. Crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: which were during warmups. How does any team not have a plan for kicker if theirs suddenly goes out? I bet for most teams its the punter. But if it's not---how do you not "try out" alternatives waaaay before warmups in the game in which you K can't answer the bell?? Also, how is a punter not be able to make a decent attempt at kicking a stationary football? Why wouldn't he practice that?--he's got nothing else to do all week. Crazy. Matt Rhule isn't a good coach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Helpmenow said: Booth lustig On Oct. 16, 1966, Bills kicker Booth Lusteg was attacked after missing a field goal that cost the team a victory against the San Diego Chargers. Almost a dozen men were overheard planning to "punch out" Lusteg when he left War Memorial Stadium, according to an Oct. 19, 1966. article in The Buffalo Evening News. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 The emergency kicker used to be this guy, until he accidentally killed himself in a tailgating mishap in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 5 hours ago, clayboy54 said: I think the Bills have a mule stashed away in the barn for this very occasion. Oyitch, Gus! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: If I were a kicker struggling to make a team i'de practice long snapping. A long snapper that can kick would always have a roster spot. Such a specialty.. there's no way they could get to NFL level by just picking it up while they're already in the NFL There are kids at 6A ball in Texas.. and all they do is long snap.. that's their position They're going to be a D1 Long snapper and then an NFL Long snapper.. it's tough to just transition to that and get the rotations you need and the speed you need on the snap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 John leypoldt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Such a specialty.. there's no way they could get to NFL level by just picking it up while they're already in the NFL There are kids at 6A ball in Texas.. and all they do is long snap.. that's their position They're going to be a D1 Long snapper and then an NFL Long snapper.. it's tough to just transition to that and get the rotations you need and the speed you need on the snap They should practice kicking also lol. Long snappers actually double the career length of the average Nfl player. I'm going to convince my kid long snapping is cool. Forget QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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