dave mcbride Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SWATeam said: Our D is better than last year. What happened then? I'm not saying the D played well at all, but the Colts did get two scores on short fields because of turnovers. On the other hand, in the past three games Allen has 5 interceptions and 8 interception-worthy throws along with 2 fumbles and what should have been a third (vs. Jax at the end of the game; that was absolutely a fumble). The backs fumbled it twice vs. the Jets, Sweeney fumbled it once vs. Jax, and McKenzie fumbled it vs. Indy too. That is 17 turnover-worthy plays in 3 games (5.67 per game), which is terrible. No matter how the D plays, you're not going to win when you have that level of carelessness with the football. Edited November 23, 2021 by dave mcbride 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Any updates on Edmunds or Lotulelei? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Any updates on Edmunds or Lotulelei? Edmunds practiced in full yesterday (it was only a walk through) Star won’t be activated until Wednesday at the earliest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Getting Stevenson back could give us some much needed speed and let McKenzie focus solely on WR (Not that he’s a bad KR) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I'm not saying the D played well at all, but the Colts did get two scores on short fields because of turnovers. On the other hand, in the past three games Allen has 5 interceptions and 8 interception-worthy throws along with 2 fumbles and what should have been a third (vs. Jax at the end of the game; that was absolutely a fumble). The backs fumbled it twice vs. the Jets and Sweeney once vs. Jax too. That is 16 turnover-worthy plays in 3 games (5.33 per game), which is terrible. No matter how the D plays, you're not going to win when you have that level of carelessness with the football. Yeah the sloppiness with the football is killing us like it was crushing the Chiefs earlier this year. If we can clean up the turnovers and just play patient football we can win games. We have the defense to do it (well...most of the time lmao). We don't need to drop 30-40 burgers on teams every week (although...cool). I'll take ugly, gritty W's as long as they're W's. Lord knows I've seen enough ugly football (and some wins) played by the Bills in the last 20 years 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Just now, uninja said: Yeah the sloppiness with the football is killing us like it was crushing the Chiefs earlier this year. If we can clean up the turnovers and just play patient football we can win games. We have the defense to do it (well...most of the time lmao). We don't need to drop 30-40 burgers on teams every week (although...cool). I'll take ugly, gritty W's as long as they're W's. Lord knows I've seen enough ugly football (and some wins) played by the Bills in the last 20 years 😂 I actually forgot the McKenzie fumble! I'll add that to the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Logic Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: While McDermott says "everything is on the table", it's really hard for me to imagine Stevenson being activated after a short practice week for such an important game. I find it much more likely that he'd be activated for the Monday nighter against the Pats, since there'd be a 10 day runup to make sure he's acclimated and ready to roll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 fwiw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Stevenson isnt saving this team.......he could be good for a big play or two What would save this team is a combo of our D finding their balls and Matt Brieda being on the field a WHOLE lot more 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriftygamer83 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Right now I thin we'll be more likely to put everything on the table. We've seen this season all but slip away. Considering the hype it's time to be honest. We're most likely not going to be in the playoffs and the offensive line is pretty much the reason why. Trading, cutting, and using the practice squad will be on the table for next year. We expected to much me I don't know if we'll even be around for the second quarter to match the rushing offense and our offensive linemen couldn't block a cold. 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Stevenson isnt saving this team.......he could be good for a big play or two What would save this team is a combo of our D finding their balls and Matt Brieda being on the field a WHOLE lot more The defensive line is in limbo right now. It's only really an average line which rarely performed and in the clutch has fallen off completely. Ed Oliver might just be looking at being gone for a second round or a couple more down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Why not just let McKenzie be that guy and have Stevenson just handle the return duties? Get McKenzie back in the offense like he used to be 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mat68 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Stevenson might provide some juice the offense is missing. Running past people is a skill he seems to have it. Mckenzie muffs another return he can fill in there too. More speed on offense. Brieda, Stevenson, Mckenzie all have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 hours ago, SWATeam said: IMO, offense is more of the issue. Our D is built to be elite at defending the pass to compliment our explosive offense that should have teams chasing points. When our O is not working, it allows teams to be content pounding us on the ground. I agree that is probably how McDermott sees it. But the reality is that more draft capital and $ has been invested into the defense under McBeane. A lot of people think this is some outrageously talented offense........it is not. Josh Allen and Stef Diggs are pro bowl players. Beasley and Sanders are vets who are well on the backside of their careers athletically. Davis is a player with decent potential but a lot of teams have that guy who may never really pan out due to injuries(bad ankles have hindered him both years) or inconsistency(has stretches of inexplicable drops). Knox is the best we've had in a while but he's not an elite TE and it remains to be seen if he ever will.........TE's like him come and go with other teams........we just aren't used to having one with talent.......and their depth at TE is maybe the worst in the NFL. Obviously, the OL has been hindered by the dropoffs from Dawkins and Williams and we knew coming in that the interior OL was going to be mediocre. Running backs are plenty good........it's not an important position to have great talent at........but they are ordinary. They aren't a naturally explosive offense.........they are an ordinary unit with a dynamic QB. What has happened is that it's turned into the Josh Allen show this season.........he's trying to carry the team to the heights they were at last season but a lot of players have regressed and he didn't have a roster full of #1 picks at his disposal on offense to begin with. He's the only one on the entire offense who was a first round draft pick. On defense.......a lot more athletic pedigree.......6 first round draft picks. The defense is basically designed to protect leads now but the offensive talent is overrated. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Sorry, who are the Bills cutting to get Stevenson on the roster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 Just now, Arkady Renko said: Sorry, who are the Bills cutting to get Stevenson on the roster? They have an open roster spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) If the Bills can't beat the Saints and do it convincingly with all the injuries they are dealing with, it's basically a wrap for the season.. It's looking like they will be down their starting QB, #1 WR, starting RB, starting TE, two starting OTs and the backup OT who was replacing the other guys. Geez. Edited November 23, 2021 by Process 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said: I know and I just don't get it. I'm going to be a broken record here but the Bills had only two freaking possessions between the opening KO and the two minute warning. TWO! And they scored a TD on one of them and had a nice drive going until back to back penalties killed it. When the Bills got the ball for the only the 3rd time in the first half they were already down 24 - 7. This should be the universal talking point of the coaches and those that get paid to cover the Bills. I don't know why it isn't? I'm not arguing this POV just trying to get into McD's head a little bit I think he believes that the defensive scheme is sound and that on D, it's a matter of players executing. He did call out stupid penalties, and physicality at the point of attack, as defensive problems. (I would argue not being able to stop the Titans or Colts argues a schematic and a personnel weakness. Like I said, just trying to get into his head) I think he believes that the offense is not sound, going back to last year's playoffs - that we don't have enough of a run threat to make teams respect it. This is an issue I suspect he's raised over and over and over again with Daboll, and it's not getting fixed. Now there are back-and-forth arguments there - we don't necessarily have the OL to run consistently, and we definitely don't have the RBs who can make yards without blocking. After Pittsburgh, an argument could be made that it was the surprise, and a top-quality DL But it's now become clear that pretty much any D can handle us on O. The Colts are NOT the defense we could barely handle in last year's playoffs. Their DL isn't as good, their LB is playing hurt, and they're missing their starting safeties, and they killed us. I think that McDermott and Daboll have a genuine difference of philosophy on how to fix the offense, and Daboll has his fingers in his ears going "Lalala not listening" or maybe "fix your own show, Mr Defense" and that's why we keep hearing about it at McD's pressers. 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: They have an open roster spot Because of Star and Brown on Covid, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 hours ago, dave mcbride said: Allen had a turnover-worthy play on the second drive on yet another forced pass. They were lucky it wasn’t a turnover. When analyzing performance, you have to factor that in. It wasn't a forced pass. It was a miscommunication with Diggs. This is the case on a lot of interceptions, not just for Allen. It always looks like the QB's fault. If Diggs had continued coming back to the ball it would be a catch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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