LeGOATski Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Todd Gurley is still available.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, Pete said: Ill take both. Give me 2 guards, a speed WR, and a Thurman Thomas clone Christmas is coming up so put it on your list for Santa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, Gugny said: What is "blah" about Singletary's 5 YPA? the over all run game was blah. singletary did what he could, but again, the line is the bigger issue imo. 5 ypa or not, the bills could use someone better at rb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 39 minutes ago, Pete said: ive been getting attacked for suggesting the Bills spend a higher pick on RB I wanted Najee Harris but considering how pathetic our OL is it probably wouldn't have mattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, Gugny said: What is "blah" about Singletary's 5 YPA? I don't think they use him enough, to be honest. Stop subbing RBs. Just run Singletary into the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, Pete said: how come Singletary and his 5 ypc is not ranked in the top 30? Thats my point. Singletary and Moss are not scaring anyone. The line sucks too. Other teams defend pass and dare us to run- and we can't. Don't you think Josh could use a Thurman Thomas clone? Top 30 for what? He's never going to be a league leader rushing yards because the Bills split carries. The Thurman comparison isn't fair. And - as I pointed out to you in the shoutbox - if Daboll wanted to feed the ball to Singletary 40 times/game, he'd end up the same place Derrick Henry is right now. It's not a smart strategy. We're talking about an offense that - before yesterday - was NUMBER ONE IN THE NFL in points scored/game. As great as Josh and the WRs are ... that's not happening with no run game. Any run game deficiencies are due to the O line sucking ... not the RBs. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 36 minutes ago, Pete said: McCaffery number 8 pick overall Cook 41 overall Saquan 2nd overall Kamara 67 overall Henry 45 overall Jones 182 overall Chubb 35 overall Ekeler FA Taylor 41 overall Jacobs 24 overall Najee 24 overall Zeke 4th overall Ekeler is the outlier here. Besides Ekeler, the top 12 NFL RBs average draft postition is 39 overall, with 5 drafted within top 24 First of all.........that's just a random list.........not the top rushing/receiving backs in the NFL now. Second..........the only great RB in the league is Henry...........and he's not really a factor in the passing game himself. RB's just don't matter enough in winning and losing the game for the position to matter. The player you seek(Thurman Thomas) isn't really a thing and the facsimile's of that player have been breaking down and flaming out around age 26 now. And the RB has been largely replaced in the receiving game by slot receivers. McCaffrey might have become the first HOF slot receiver if he had insisted on that instead of RB but now he's a beat up, undersized $15M/yr RB. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 45 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: You lost me at saquon Me too...I was just fixated on McCaffrey 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 9 carries by running backs (Singletary 6, Moss 3) in a game in which the teams combined for 15 points is just ... weird. Other good teams have punished opponents that commit to stopping the big play by going to heavy sets and running the ball down their throats. Remember the Pats with their fullback/James Develin sets? Do we not have the personnel to do that, or do we just lack the will to try it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 59 minutes ago, Pete said: McCaffery number 8 pick overall Cook 41 overall Saquan 2nd overall Kamara 67 overall Henry 45 overall Jones 182 overall Chubb 35 overall Ekeler FA Taylor 41 overall Jacobs 24 overall Najee 24 overall Zeke 4th overall Ekeler is the outlier here. Besides Ekeler, the top 12 NFL RBs average draft postition is 39 overall, with 5 drafted within top 24 What a lovely list. Those 13RBs have precisely 0 Superbowl appearances combined. Two of them were in championship games, one of them twice (Jones, with HOF QB). I am not saying that we couldn't use stud RB, but drafting one early is just bad business. OL is way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: First of all.........that's just a random list.........not the top rushing/receiving backs in the NFL now. Second..........the only great RB in the league is Henry...........and he's not really a factor in the passing game himself. RB's just don't matter enough in winning and losing the game for the position to matter. The player you seek(Thurman Thomas) isn't really a thing and the facsimile's of that player have been breaking down and flaming out around age 26 now. And the RB has been largely replaced in the receiving game by slot receivers. McCaffrey might have become the first HOF slot receiver if he had insisted on that instead of RB but now he's a beat up, undersized $15M/yr RB. False McCaffrey will be 1st ballot and is as great as Henry if not better. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: What a lovely list. Those 13RBs have precisely 0 Superbowl appearances combined. Two of them were in championship games, one of them twice (Jones, with HOF QB). I am not saying that we couldn't use stud RB, but drafting one early is just bad business. OL is way to go. Zeke? We need OL and RB. Badly. Yesterday., Thats my point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: McCaffrey might have become the first HOF slot receiver if he had insisted on that instead of RB And he may very well have a second act where he's used more in that manner. I haven't given up on him by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: RB's just don't matter enough in winning and losing the game for the position to matter. The player you seek(Thurman Thomas) isn't really a thing and the facsimile's of that player have been breaking down and flaming out around age 26 now. And the RB has been largely replaced in the receiving game by slot receivers. McCaffrey might have become the first HOF slot receiver if he had insisted on that instead of RB but now he's a beat up, undersized $15M/yr RB. Odd that you are taking this position seeing how the lack of a running game is hurting the Bills. Also, there are several teams which are regularly trying to establish the run (Packers, Titans). Yes, RB has been devalued but not to the extent you are making it out to be. The pendulum never swings entirely to one end. While the league depends on passing, and the Bills success will run through Allen's arm, it does not work on a consistent basis without a credible running threat by players other than the QB. We are awful running the ball and the results are in the open. While I dont pin it as the sole reason for our woes (there is plenty of blame to go around), even with a good OL, I would want the Bills to have a run-pass of 35-65 or 40-60. 8 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I am not saying that we couldn't use stud RB, but drafting one early is just bad business. OL is way to go. I agree on the point of not taking a RB very high. 3rd round is, imo, the sweet spot. Never in the first round, maybe use a 2nd round pick for a good player. Edited November 8, 2021 by Fan in Chicago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 28 minutes ago, Gugny said: Top 30 for what? He's never going to be a league leader rushing yards because the Bills split carries. So does Nick Chubb 120 carries 721 yards 6.0 ypc and 8 TDs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Guys...we all know the fix is already on the roster... It's Christian Wade time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1Pr-cENcQ&ab_channel=EBallProductions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 58 minutes ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: Will Singletary or Moss be on the roster next year? I changed your question a little I think it will be one or the other is back and one gone. I'd be amazed if we either don't sign a good younger FA RB draft one. Depending on the style RB we get will determine which one we keep and which goes. If it's more speed back then Moss stays. If it's a bruiser like Henry, then maybe Moss goes and Singletary stays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 It’s not always a guarantee you’re getting a star just because you draft them high. Spiller with 9th overall and while he made some highlight runs he was not worth that investment- especially because he was drafted to a team that had FredEx and Lynch. He was projected as the #1 back in the 2010 draft and selected 9th overall. He was often injured and even when he left Buffalo he didn’t do much. granted, nearly all of the RB’s in the draft that year were hot garbage. James Starks was one of the better backs and we missed him- someone in our own back yard. Prepare to barf (I’m only showing the top-3 here) 9 - Cj Spiller 41 - Terrell Troup 72 - Alex Carrington Stars (regardless of position) we passed on: Gronk, Jerry Hughes (lol), Devin McCourty, Earl Thomas, Maurkice Pouncey, Carlos Dunlap, positions of need players we missed on: JPP, Demaryius Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders (lol), Antonio Brown (blessing in disguise?) ***Our biggest needs were QB, LT, RT, DT, and OLB. All the QB’s sucked too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Did everyone see how the Indy OL ripped holes against the Jets defense front? Moss (if healthy) and Singletary would feast. Nothing against INDY's RBs they are good but their OL made them looked great (against the Jets). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Put together an elite oline so it doesn't matter who you put out there at RB. And many of those team with top running backs are bad teams. Maybe because they drafted a RB high instead of, say, a QB? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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