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9/26/21 Bills vs. WTF Postgame Thread


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27 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Here cone the personal attacks. Expected them but its all good. I'm not here to fight nor make friends. 

No, Einstein. You hijacked this thread with your incessant senseless drivel. The only ‘good’ that comes from this is knowing what we’re dealing with, with you. Otherwise, it’s all bad.

 

You had a bad week. Regroup. Think before you type. 

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3 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

He is a much better player than John Brown and as of right now better than Davis too. Diggs is getting all the attention so having a consistent #2 that does a little bit of everything is critical.

Manny runs the routes Smoke refused to. I think the offense run more fluently with Moss at RB. 

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1 hour ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 You call Jones throwing for 249 yards shredding Washington defense?😂 Good lord. This week you would've been calling calling for Josh's head had he thrown for that today. Don't worry about the perception of taking anything away from Josh, you can't, as he had more than that by halftime. 

 Struggling for the first 2 games of the year after an MVP caliber season doesn't warrant the discussion of red flags. Especially in a year when the starters only played 1 half of football together in the preseason. Clearly there was some rust to knock off from the OC, QB and most importantly the OL. IMO you were way too overboard with your "hot takes" and fail to see it/admit it.

Good points. Let me give you my take. First off your comment about D. Jones is disingenuous. Conveniently, you forgot to mention he had 95 yards rushing and a TD. 

 

Secondly, I never called for Allen's head. That's just plain bull#### and a incorrect interpretation.

 

I believe Allen's struggles go back 4 games not 2. I'm entitled to voice my concerns about Allen. I brought up legitimate issues about his play. For example, mechanics, footwork, confidence, vision, jitterness in the pocket, and inaccurate passes. Like it or not those concerns were and are legitimate. Also, talked about the small sample size of Allen's success. That's just undeniable. I never questioned his ceiling and raw talent. I talked about players who had great runs like Cam, Kap, Cousins, RG3, Geoff, and Wentz. An article posted here from I believe the NY Times stated Allen may be regressing. Thus, adding some legitimacy to my posts. They aren't just some random trolling or hatred. 

 

Red flags is a matter of perception. I can see how it can be perceived as too strong. Others here pointed out that they disagreed with my takes. I acknowledged their views as valid. Look at my response to Thurman.

 

Your knock off the rust statement is at best marginal. 

 

Hope that clarifies my posts. 

 

Also, I think the true test of Allen and the offense will be on the road vs KC and Tenn. 

 

I look forward to others opinions and always welcome differing viewpoints without personal attacks.

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

No, Einstein. You hijacked this thread with your incessant senseless drivel. The only ‘good’ that comes from this is knowing what we’re dealing with, with you. Otherwise, it’s all bad.

 

You had a bad week. Regroup. Think before you type. 

Ok if you say so? I feel great for "having such a bad week." The Bills won and Allen played great. 

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10 hours ago, WideNine said:

Pittsburgh had all off season to plan on how to attack our offense and they have a great defense.

 

Even then, Allen had a few opportunities and missed them and our receivers also had a few key drops. We had a questionable DPI that reversed an INT deep in Pittsburgh territory.... Even with a poor game plan by Daboll that was absent using 11 personnel and running to slow down the pass rush, we had our chances in that game.

 

Trolls with sketch names I have never seen on TBD were out in full force after one loss and did not want to take any time to dig into the whys. Just a lot of he sucks, they suck, season over nonsense.

 

 

 

 

Long term in week in 18 we might look back and say that game was the best thing that could have happened to us.  

 

Beat Houston.  

 

If we beat the Chiefs the road thru the AFC is coming thru Buffalo (AFC west going to beat up each other the division winner will have 3-4 losses minimum. 

 

That's where we are as we move into October.  It won't be easy, and obviously no guarantees, but my God getting them to probably 2-3 and us be 4-1?

 

When they beat us in week 6 last year that essentially sealed their 1 seed.  Time to flip scripts.  

 

 

*Do not overlook Houston first fellas*

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8 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said:

I was thinking the same thing.  Gabe will get his chances this year for sure.  We have an abundance of riches right now, but that can change so quickly. 


Isn’t it so nice to have four solid guys at WR where you can always give one a rest with only a couple of any snaps in a week and you use the other three.  We are playing in the last two games more balanced football using the RB’s and Knox either in blocking or the occasional target.  It’s perfect and with the talent hard to defend.

 

Last year we went so much four wide, second only to AZ, I think that’s a mistake this year.  If I had to prioritize, I love 11 the most, 21 second, and 10 only when there is a clear advantage, but still keeping the RB in to chip and be the outlet.  Stay the hell away from empty sets.

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15 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Well now, THAT’s what the Doctor ordered! Defense stellar for the 3rd straight week and Josh Allen thinking he’s playing like there’s no fans in the stands. Result: Azzwhoppin’ on the team with no name!

 

Fantastic! 
 

Steelers 1-2! How the H. E. Double L did we lose that game?

 

Discuss.

 

The refs kept a few of their drives alive with questionable calls and the Bills couldn't over come it.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Manny runs the routes Smoke refused to. I think the offense run more fluently with Moss at RB. 

 

I think Diggs killed himself to get those insane #'s last year and was too beat up for the playoffs.

 

The other thing is teams will double him now.

 

He will have his moments this year all the Bills WR's will.

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5 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

Good points. Let me give you my take. First off your comment about D. Jones is disingenuous. Conveniently, you forgot to mention he had 95 yards rushing and a TD. 

 

Secondly, I never called for Allen's head. That's just plain bull#### and a incorrect interpretation.

 

I believe Allen's struggles go back 4 games not 2. I'm entitled to voice my concerns about Allen. I brought up legitimate issues about his play. For example, mechanics, footwork, confidence, vision, jitterness in the pocket, and inaccurate passes. Like it or not those concerns were and are legitimate. Also, talked about the small sample size of Allen's success. That's just undeniable. I never questioned his ceiling and raw talent. I talked about players who had great runs like Cam, Kap, Cousins, RG3, Geoff, and Wentz. An article posted here from I believe the NY Times stated Allen may be regressing. Thus, adding some legitimacy to my posts. They aren't just some random trolling or hatred. 

 

Red flags is a matter of perception. I can see how it can be perceived as too strong. Others here pointed out that they disagreed with my takes. I acknowledged their views as valid. Look at my response to Thurman.

 

Your knock off the rust statement is at best marginal. 

 

Hope that clarifies my posts. 

 

Also, I think the true test of Allen and the offense will be on the road vs KC and Tenn. 

 

I look forward to others opinions and always welcome differing viewpoints without personal attacks.

 

 

I believed that Newton (could never understand how he earned first name status) Kapernik, Wentz, RG3 would be flashes, as their heads were never screwed on right. Cousins never fit in with any team.

Josh Allen doesn't have a cape, he is a leader of men, not above them. He may not be goat, but he will be successful. 

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5 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

Good points. Let me give you my take. First off your comment about D. Jones is disingenuous. Conveniently, you forgot to mention he had 95 yards rushing and a TD. 

 

Secondly, I never called for Allen's head. That's just plain bull#### and a incorrect interpretation.

 

I believe Allen's struggles go back 4 games not 2. I'm entitled to voice my concerns about Allen. I brought up legitimate issues about his play. For example, mechanics, footwork, confidence, vision, jitterness in the pocket, and inaccurate passes. Like it or not those concerns were and are legitimate. Also, talked about the small sample size of Allen's success. That's just undeniable. I never questioned his ceiling and raw talent. I talked about players who had great runs like Cam, Kap, Cousins, RG3, Geoff, and Wentz. An article posted here from I believe the NY Times stated Allen may be regressing. Thus, adding some legitimacy to my posts. They aren't just some random trolling or hatred. 

 

Red flags is a matter of perception. I can see how it can be perceived as too strong. Others here pointed out that they disagreed with my takes. I acknowledged their views as valid. Look at my response to Thurman.

 

Your knock off the rust statement is at best marginal. 

 

Hope that clarifies my posts. 

 

Also, I think the true test of Allen and the offense will be on the road vs KC and Tenn. 

 

I look forward to others opinions and always welcome differing viewpoints without personal attacks.

 

 

What does the NY Times know about Allen and his game? Their articles are opinions and meant to get clicks. So you're going with the.....Because this one article backed me up, my really bad opinion was justified?

 

I never said you had called for Allen's head, I said you probably would've if he only threw for what Jones threw for against Washington last week.

 

The players you named off never had the passing season like Allen had last year and that's with him playing injured for 4 1/2 games.

 

If the game was close like the Giants vs Washington game last week, Allen would've easily hit 400 yards passing maybe even getting close to 500. He's in a different league than the players you listed.

 

Knocking off the rust, in the beginning of the year, while only playing 30 minutes together in preseason is not marginal, it's reality. 

 

Where was your outcry about the offensive line that was getting blown up on passing plays the first 2 weeks or the spotty play calling. It was a collective effort, not just on Josh.

 

You jumped the gun by a mile and still won't admit, it's ok everyone here already knows. Even now, this game wasn't good enough for you to believe, you just kicked the can down a couple games until we play KC & Tennessee. 

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6 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Manny runs the routes Smoke refused to. I think the offense run more fluently with Moss at RB. 

What routes did Brown refuse to run? So far they look to be running similar routes. 

39 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

There’s an ankle in this picture somewhere 

 

 

Is this ankle thing you speak of on the girl wearing Washingtons colors? 

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