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17 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said:

Happy birthday Aaron Schobel! Now was he an underrated pass rusher on some terrible teams? Or an overachiever who quit on his team and retired? Discuss…

He was a highly regarded pass rusher on a terrible team.  He retired rather than play out of his natural position in a poorly conceived 3-4 defense for which he was not a good fit.  I'm sure he regrets that after seeing all the praise Kelsay received for giving it the ole college try out at OLB.

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the only thing new is the history you dont know...

 

 

second to the immortal Bruce in career team sacks 

 

NFL Draft:2001 / Round: 2 / Pick: 46

Career history

Buffalo Bills (2001–2009)

 

Total tackles:483

Sacks:78.0

Forced fumbles:19

Fumble recoveries:8

Interceptions:3

Defensive touchdowns:1

 

Schobel earned his first Pro Bowl appearance in 2006. His best season as a pro came in 2006 when he posted a career high 14 sacks. 

Schobel, a first team alternate for the 2007 Pro Bowl, was called upon to relieve an injured Jason Taylor in the Pro Bowl. This was his second consecutive year in the Pro Bowl.

He started in 116 consecutive games with the Bills from 2003 until 2008, when he was on the inactive list for a game against the San Diego Chargers due to an injured foot. After a team-leading, 10-sack 2009 season, Schobel informed the Bills that he was considering retirement. To add on, new coach Gailey said that he was looking to switch from a 4-3 to 3-4 defense It was reported by the Buffalo News on May 10, 2010 that Schobel & his wife June had sold their Orchard Park house, further adding to the speculation of his impending departure from the Bills. On July 27, 2010 Aaron Schobel announced he was 70/30 on returning to the Bills.

On August 4, 2010, the Buffalo Bills released Aaron Schobel. He never signed with any other team; being released instead cemented his decision to retire, which he did on August 16.

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4 minutes ago, First Round Bust said:

the only thing new is the history you dont know...

 

 

second to the immortal Bruce in career team sacks 

 

NFL Draft:2001 / Round: 2 / Pick: 46

Career history

Buffalo Bills (2001–2009)

 

Total tackles:483

Sacks:78.0

Forced fumbles:19

Fumble recoveries:8

Interceptions:3

Defensive touchdowns:1

 

Schobel earned his first Pro Bowl appearance in 2006. His best season as a pro came in 2006 when he posted a career high 14 sacks. 

Schobel, a first team alternate for the 2007 Pro Bowl, was called upon to relieve an injured Jason Taylor in the Pro Bowl. This was his second consecutive year in the Pro Bowl.

He started in 116 consecutive games with the Bills from 2003 until 2008, when he was on the inactive list for a game against the San Diego Chargers due to an injured foot. After a team-leading, 10-sack 2009 season, Schobel informed the Bills that he was considering retirement. To add on, new coach Gailey said that he was looking to switch from a 4-3 to 3-4 defense It was reported by the Buffalo News on May 10, 2010 that Schobel & his wife June had sold their Orchard Park house, further adding to the speculation of his impending departure from the Bills. On July 27, 2010 Aaron Schobel announced he was 70/30 on returning to the Bills.

On August 4, 2010, the Buffalo Bills released Aaron Schobel. He never signed with any other team; being released instead cemented his decision to retire, which he did on August 16.


What makes you think that I didn’t know any of that? You can also throw in that he did consider an offer from Houston to come out of retirement, but I’m sure you already knew that….

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37 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said:

Happy birthday Aaron Schobel! Now was he an underrated pass rusher on some terrible teams? Or an overachiever who quit on his team and retired? Discuss…

He’s the Sgoat! Dominant pass rusher who played a decade, not sure how that’s quitting. 

19 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

He was a highly regarded pass rusher on a terrible team.  He retired rather than play out of his natural position in a poorly conceived 3-4 defense for which he was not a good fit.  I'm sure he regrets that after seeing all the praise Kelsay received for giving it the ole college try out at OLB.

Basically the same BS we pulled on Mario Williams.

 

I remember rumors that Schobel considered coming out of retirement to play on that Dline with Hughes, Kyle, Mario, and Dareus. 

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14 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said:


What makes you think that I didn’t know any of that? You can also throw in that he did consider an offer from Houston to come out of retirement, but I’m sure you already knew that….

I should have said...the only thing new is the history WE dont know....not meant to criticize or get personal as that is a saying a trivia-history oriented person like myself uses...

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1 minute ago, First Round Bust said:

I should have said...the only thing new is the history WE dont know....not meant to criticize or get personal as that is a saying a trivia-history oriented person like myself uses...


Fair enough

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Can I vote "Both"?


Yes you can because I also have mixed feelings about him

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1 minute ago, Brennan Huff said:


If that’s the first time you heard that then you obviously didn’t spend any time arguing with strangers on the old Bills message boards back in the way 

I didn’t, I avoided Bills forums like the plague during the drought years. People are angry enough when we’re winners. 

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Aaron Schobel was an excellent defensive end who toiled in anonymity on some epically bad Bills defenses.  A quiet guy who just went about his business, never tooting his own horn.  He played 9 years for the Bills, but many on this board aren't fans, or as posted above, ambivalent towards him.  I've never understood it.  Happy Birthday, Aaron.  You deserve to be remembered better than you are around here.

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As I remember, Schobel was a rare light of goodness during the Bills Dark Ages.  Him, Moulds, Freddy, and Kyle are probably the guys I remember and appreciate best from that dismal era.  

 

Schobel's departure wasn't as pretty as it could have been.  He was tired of losing.  And, as I recall, Gailey said he was switching to a 3-4: no QB-loving DE's favorite alignment. 

 

I think Schobel may have said something about maybe  wanting to play somewhere else.  But, in the end, Schobel retired a Bill after 9 good seasons.  

 

I just looked it up: he's 81st on the official NFL sack list.  Sacks were only counted since 1982 (39 years ago).  So, on average, there's roughly only 2 sack artists coming into the league each year better than Aaron.  That's not HOF worthy but still pretty dang good.  In fact, it ranks ahead of Bryce Paup, Cornelius Bennett, Mark Gastineau, Jevon Kearse, Ray Childress, Geno Atkins, Chris Long, Clay Matthews, and a bunch other bigger names.  

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Blainorama5 said:

Says a lot about that dark era.  😉

 

Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not?

 

On his birthday I want to just put into perspective what a terrific Buffalo Bill, and football player, Aaron Schobel was.

 

Aaron Schobel is officially Buffalo's 2nd all time sack leader

Some of the 1960's 1970's players may have more, since sacks weren't counted until 1982.

 

For those that don't know or didn't watch Schobel's career:

8 of his 9 seasons he played all 16 games. (started 11 in his rookie season, lost 11 games to injury in 2008)

He had 78 sacks, 98 tackles for a loss, 21 forced fumbles, 8 fumble recoveries, 31 passes defended, 3 INT and a defensive TD in 133 games.

He was a complete DE.

 

He was a 2x Pro Bowler, 1 x 2nd team All Pro when Buffalo was largely discounted and an era of excellent pass rushers.

 

Schobel had double digit sacks in 4 of 9 seasons.

That becomes double digit sacks in 4 of 7 seasons as a 16 game starter.

 

3 of his 9 seasons he was in the NFL top ten for forced fumbles (2004, 2006, 2007)

3 of his 9 seasons he was in the NFL top 10 for sacks (2003, 2005, 2006)

3 of his 9 seasons he was in the NFL top 10 for tackles for a loss (2003, 2005, 2009)

These were spread around and not all in the same three seasons.

 

At one point he was neck and neck with Jason Taylor for most sacks over a 3 to 5 year period.

(I can't recall exactly, it was noted in a Bills vs Dolphins game broadcast at the time, a story line was Taylor vs Schobel)

 

Among all defensive players he is currently in the top 100 NFL All Time ranks in the following categories:

43rd for tackles for a loss

60th for forced fumbles

81st  for sacks since 1982 (when stat was started)

 

I have seen Schobel bagged on TBD and among Bills fans at times, which makes no sense, so I wanted to set the record straight.

 

He is in my top 3 Bills during the Buffalo 'Dark Ages' (Moulds/ Schobel/ Brown)

 

Happy Birthday Aaron. He was a hell of a player.

 

I think we would all be happy to see Groot match or exceed this production with the Bills.

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1 hour ago, Brennan Huff said:


What makes you think that I didn’t know any of that? You can also throw in that he did consider an offer from Houston to come out of retirement, but I’m sure you already knew that….

 

Maybe it was the snarky 'and quit on his team and retired' part. For some reason some posters here just can't help but get an unnecessary barb in when talking about past players.

 

He played 9 seasons on garbage teams going no where and never complained, held out, or demanded a trade.

 

Sounds petty given Schobel ranks top 100 of all defensive players, all time in 3 statistical categories. (Sacks/ Tackles for a loss and forced fumbles).

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50 minutes ago, ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin said:

 

Maybe it was the snarky 'and quit on his team and retired' part. For some reason some posters here just can't help but get an unnecessary barb in when talking about past players.

 

He played 9 seasons on garbage teams going no where and never complained, held out, or demanded a trade.

 

Sounds petty given Schobel ranks top 100 of all defensive players, all time in 3 statistical categories. (Sacks/ Tackles for a loss and forced fumbles).


Was it snarky though? It’s an honest question. A lot of people feel that way

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Why does Schobel get hate? I don't get it. He was a good player for a long time on a crappy team.

3 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

How is retiring quitting on the team. Was there something to his story that I missed ? 

He didn't. It's just a bunch of strange Bills fans who find strange ways to get slighted by people they don't know.

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12 minutes ago, MJS said:

Why does Schobel get hate? I don't get it. He was a good player for a long time on a crappy team.

He didn't. It's just a bunch of strange Bills fans who find strange ways to get slighted by people they don't know.


I don’t get how you think I was hating on him. It’s a narrative that people have about him. I don’t. He was always one of my favorite players in the drought era. 

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3 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said:

I don’t get how you think I was hating on him. It’s a narrative that people have about him. I don’t. He was always one of my favorite players in the drought era. 

I didn't mention you, did I? I was referring to those fans who talk badly about Schobel.

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2 minutes ago, MJS said:

On a different post, yes.


I mean I can see how people can it that way. But at the end of the day, at that point in his career, I don’t blame him for retiring. The team was going nowhere. I don’t blame anyone for wanting out of Buffalo during those years 

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