RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Makes sense. This is the target year for Miami to start to open the window. Where Playoffs are the floor and Division Title the ceiling. Everybody needs to be on the same page traveling in the same direction. Now…they have everyone onboard. Tua looks good to great in Camp. Confidence and energy and buy in are high. Time for them to go after it now without any nagging issues. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Makes sense. This is the target year for Miami to start to open the window. Where Playoffs are the floor and Division Title the ceiling. Everybody needs to be on the same page traveling in the same direction. Now…they have everyone onboard. Tua looks good to great in Camp. Confidence and energy and buy in are high. Time for them to go after it now without any nagging issues. If Howard goes full board and is a true locker room leader you might be correct. I don't know enough about the Phins locker room but I have a hard time believing he is that guy based on his whining. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Most of what they have done is add guarantees. This was a sensible step. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 And I though Joe Cribbs was bad! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 3 hours ago, B-Man said: It’s believed to be the first time in NFL history a player with four years left on his deal has received added money and guarantees. Well it certainly won't be the last.....................now. Thanks Dolphins. Yes every team will be want to be fools like them. Lemmings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 The fish are JA17s B word. He owns them and I’m not worried about them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 39 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: If Howard goes full board and is a true locker room leader you might be correct. I don't know enough about the Phins locker room but I have a hard time believing he is that guy based on his whining. He is their type of leader - he leads in whining! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 That's a lot of money for a CB tandem that Josh destroys twice a year.😂😂😂😂 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Virgil said: This is the kind of thing I was worried about for Diggs when we first traded for him and I’m very happy to be wrong Sometimes WHAT you do (wanting more money) is not the problem as much HOW you do it (publicly vs behind closed doors). I think Diggs should be and will be taken care of with a new deal, and I’ll be that much happier to see it because he’s been a positive influence and a “process guy”. I too was a little concerned based upon reputation, but so far so good and I’m thrilled! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: If Howard goes full board and is a true locker room leader you might be correct. I don't know enough about the Phins locker room but I have a hard time believing he is that guy based on his whining. I don’t mind that athletes sometimes cut through all the romanticism and look at themselves truthfully. Solely as a product. No different then ketchup, gasoline or shaving cream. And each product has a cost/value in the market place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 11 hours ago, gjv said: From what I've read on Pro Football Talk, it seems more like a "Howard save face deal". Seems that way, can’t blame the Fins for really not giving up much to keep one of their best players happy. Howard got something but at least gets to say the organization values him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 11 hours ago, gjv said: From what I've read on Pro Football Talk, it seems more like a "Howard save face deal". While not a major move how is any increase with FOUR YEARS left on the contract not be considered an unequivocal victory for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 8 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Makes sense. This is the target year for Miami to start to open the window. Where Playoffs are the floor and Division Title the ceiling. Everybody needs to be on the same page traveling in the same direction. Now…they have everyone onboard. Tua looks good to great in Camp. Confidence and energy and buy in are high. Time for them to go after it now without any nagging issues. Good post. @Beast, you really should justify your sneering response. CBs are arguably more valuable than DEs in Today’s NFL (at least according to most analytics). 7 hours ago, Limeaid said: He is their type of leader - he leads in whining! Arguably one of the best CBs in the league last season. What’s your empirical argument? https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-cornerback-rankings-the-32-best-outside-cornerbacks-entering-the-2021-nfl-season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 11 hours ago, Virgil said: Yeah, ***** him. I would have made him play and traded him the moment it hurt the cap the least. I wouldn’t want someone like that on my team. This is the kind of thing I was worried about for Diggs when we first traded for him and I’m very happy to be wrong You flipped my view of siding with Howard when all this started. The Van Noy getting cut and other similar cuts/trades, that Howard s plea made sense... and I agreed, then you left me on this boat alone 😆 WFT broooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 10 hours ago, Gugny said: It's a bad precedent when owners let the tail wag the dog. I would hate to see the NFL end up like the NBA, where players dictate where they go and who they play with. There are obviously times when a player deserves more. But this particular situation is friggin' nuts. I hope Josh burns his a$$ for 3 TD’s week two !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Cool, even less money when they inevitably re-enter the QB market in a year or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 The Dolphins are amazing to me. They follow the same rebuilding plan as the Sabres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, dave mcbride said: Good post. @Beast, you really should justify your sneering response. CBs are arguably more valuable than DEs in Today’s NFL (at least according to most analytics). Arguably one of the best CBs in the league last season. What’s your empirical argument? https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-cornerback-rankings-the-32-best-outside-cornerbacks-entering-the-2021-nfl-season What do you mean. my “sneering” response? That I thought Joe Cribbs was bad? Edited August 9, 2021 by Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 7 hours ago, Beast said: What do you mean. my “sneering” response? That I thought Joe Cribbs was bad? I thought you were laughing at the poster for saying that the restructuring of Howard's contract made sense. Howard is a really good player at a key position! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 16 hours ago, dave mcbride said: Good post. @Beast, you really should justify your sneering response. CBs are arguably more valuable than DEs in Today’s NFL (at least according to most analytics). Arguably one of the best CBs in the league last season. What’s your empirical argument? https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-cornerback-rankings-the-32-best-outside-cornerbacks-entering-the-2021-nfl-season I read that list, for me it lost any credibility after the first 10, he claims Richard Sherman is the 11th best CB in the NFL, what a joke. On 8/8/2021 at 1:11 PM, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Makes sense. This is the target year for Miami to start to open the window. Where Playoffs are the floor and Division Title the ceiling. Everybody needs to be on the same page traveling in the same direction. Now…they have everyone onboard. Tua looks good to great in Camp. Confidence and energy and buy in are high. Time for them to go after it now without any nagging issues. Is this sarcasm or has Tua in fact looked "good to great"? I am firmly in the camp that Tua will be at best a mediocre NFL starting NFL qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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