B-Man Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Afghanistan conflict: As Kabul falls, Biden backlash grows BBC, by Boer Deng , Sam Farzaneh & Tara Mckelvey https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58224399 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I expect its all down hill for Joe Biden from here barring any unexpected outcome. And adhering to my theory we're heading for complete chaos I'm thinking at some point Manchin (WV) and Sinema (AZ) are going to change party's as groups like "the squad" and other leftist voices get more annoying and demanding (if that's possible). I expect that would be comical. Watching the total leftist meltdown that would follow. A switch throws the balance of power in the Senate out of wack and Schummer is out and McConnell is in and all the committee chairs switch hands. Even if they don't switch it would be unwise to under-estimate the power they wield as the swing votes in the Senate. Manchin, yes. Sinema, no. WV is a 70% Republican state. If Manchin can't force Biden toward the middle, his own fate will depend on jumping ship. Sinema: AZ is trending more and more blue. I don't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Governor Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Kabul has fallen. Every U.S. President, former and current, should be hanging his head in shame. - George W. Bush: for deciding that the attacks on terrorist training camps and the neutralization of the terrorist threat from Afghanistan wasn't the sole limited purpose of the operation. That had succeeded by early 2002. The war went on two more decades. And for distracting the U.S. military from the mission by engaging in a pointless war with Saddam Hussein's Iraq. - Barack Obama: for vacillating between withdrawal talk and surge talk. But in retrospect, probably the most successful (well, let's say "least unsuccessful") of out post 9-11 presidencies. - Donald Trump: for brokering a joke of a peace agreement with the Taliban (the Doha agreement) and insisting on departure on a date certain, allowing the Taliban to cynically wait out the American departure - Joe Biden: for finally carrying out that departure, either knowingly allowing the descent into chaos and retribution, or naively believing that the Afghan government/army could hold off the assault. My take on it: Trump kept our troops in not so much to avoid chaos, but to postpone chaos until after the election. Biden allowed this to happen right away, hoping the debacle will be largely forgotten by the time 2024 rolls around. What a mess. Your take is correct. You have an increasingly rare skill where you can analyze an issue, remove the noise, and predict how it will play out over time in a country that chases a 24-hour news cycle which consists mostly of manufactured outrage and spin. What may seem really easy for you, is quite difficult for most. One poster even said that this event will define Biden’s presidency, as if we are still living in the 1970’s. Edited August 16, 2021 by Governor 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 This Pres. just makes knee jerk decisions with little to no thought put into it and those that surround him don't seem to help with the fore thought . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, Governor said: One poster even said that this event will define Biden’s presidency, as if we are still living in the 1970’s. I mean, we’ll see how things play out. It may or may not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Worst president ever!!! It’s not even close! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 minute ago, RiotAct said: I mean, we’ll see how things play out. It may or may not. I always knew that voters would choose the most boring candidate ever (Biden) after 4 years of idiocy and chaos (Trump), but it won’t be THAT boring where this would define a presidency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Joe Biden Remains Hiding at Camp David After Afghanistan Collapses; May Address Nation in the ‘Next Few Days’ by Charlie Spiering https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/15/white-house-joe-biden-might-address-nation-next-few-days-afghanistan/ UPDATE: He will do it this afternoon.................................can't stay up too late. Biden to address nation on deadly chaos in Afghanistan https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-afghanistan-taliban-5abab9d1a552dc93b10a76973a8b3d25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: Joe Biden Remains Hiding at Camp David After Afghanistan Collapses; May Address Nation in the ‘Next Few Days’ by Charlie Spiering https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/15/white-house-joe-biden-might-address-nation-next-few-days-afghanistan/ UPDATE: He will do it this afternoon.................................can't stay up too late. Biden to address nation on deadly chaos in Afghanistan https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-afghanistan-taliban-5abab9d1a552dc93b10a76973a8b3d25 "Another video showed the Afghans falling as the plane gained altitude over Kabul. U.S. troops resorted to firing warning shots and using helicopters to clear a path for transport aircraft." The tweet with the video of this happening is out there. I'm not posting it. 2 people fell off as they were hanging on it at lift off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted August 16, 2021 Author Share Posted August 16, 2021 Been looking at some of the pics of the Taliban taking over government offices. Looks strangley like Jan 6 at the Capital.😅😅😅😅😁 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Actual news. I Am So Sick to My Stomach Right Now’: Retired Marine Reacts to ‘POS’ Joe Biden’s Disastrous Bugout From Afghanistan. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2021/08/15/i-am-so-sick-to-my-stomach-right-now-retired-marine-reacts-to-fcking-pos-joe-bidens-disastrous-bugout-from-afghanistan-n1469748 MILLEY MUST RESIGN OR BE FIRED:“ Fretting about white supremacy is what our ruling class does instead of their jobs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Been looking at some of the pics of the Taliban taking over government offices. Looks strangley like Jan 6 at the Capital.😅😅😅😅😁 i don’t see bear spray or zip ties. Half hearted effort. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Governor said: Your take is correct. You have an increasingly rare skill where you can analyze an issue, remove the noise, and predict how it will play out over time in a country that chases a 24-hour news cycle which consists mostly of manufactured outrage and spin. What may seem really easy for you, is quite difficult for most. One poster even said that this event will define Biden’s presidency, as if we are still living in the 1970’s. 28 minutes ago, Governor said: I always knew that voters would choose the most boring candidate ever (Biden) after 4 years of idiocy and chaos (Trump), but it won’t be THAT boring where this would define a presidency. I knew that people could be scared into voting for a dunce like Joey because they mistakenly believed him when he said he would end Wuhan virus. He hasn't and once lambda variant enters the country, Joey will be defined by many things, Afghanistan being one of them. 5 minutes ago, B-Man said: Actual news. I Am So Sick to My Stomach Right Now’: Retired Marine Reacts to ‘POS’ Joe Biden’s Disastrous Bugout From Afghanistan. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2021/08/15/i-am-so-sick-to-my-stomach-right-now-retired-marine-reacts-to-fcking-pos-joe-bidens-disastrous-bugout-from-afghanistan-n1469748 MILLEY MUST RESIGN OR BE FIRED:“ Fretting about white supremacy is what our ruling class does instead of their jobs. Hey Marx Milley, that's what a real government takover looks like... Edited August 16, 2021 by Doc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 "BREAKING NEWS/President Biden will return to the White House to deliver remarks on Afghanistan this afternoon." CNN reports: https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/16/politics/biden-afghanistan-speech/index.html Biden remained at the wooded Camp David presidential retreat with members of his family over the weekend as chaotic images from Kabul emerged. He will return to Washington ahead of his address, which is scheduled for 3:45 p.m. ET. Speaking on morning television programs, senior members of Biden's national security team sought to shift blame for the collapse of the Afghan government on the country's defense forces, which they said lacked the will to defend their country against the Taliban. Blame the Afghans. Have they gamed it out and decided it would be a mistake to blame Trump? Trump isn't even mention in the article. Perhaps they can see that to blame Trump is to open the path of blame back to Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Doc said: I knew that people could be scared into voting for a dunce like Joey because they mistakenly believed him when he said he would end Wuhan virus. He hasn't and once lambda variant enters the country, Joey will be defined by many things, Afghanistan being one of them. Lambda already entered the country through Miami. That’s why people called it the DeSantis variant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JaCrispy Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Beast said: Didn’t you know the greatest threat to America’s freedom is white supremacy? Duh...😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Governor said: Lambda already entered the country through Miami. That’s why people idiots called it the DeSantis variant. Yeah, because he brought it in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) This withdrawal is so hasty… it looks so incompetent I can’t believe there isn’t more to the story involving China and Russia. China ramping up Afghanistan involvement amid US withdrawal https://nypost.com/2021/07/05/china-ramping-up-afghanistan-involvement-amid-us-withdrawal/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=mail_app https://news.yahoo.com/china-big-plan-post-u-091239086.html interesting https://tfiglobalnews.com/2021/08/16/a-china-russia-power-struggle-has-already-begun-in-afghanistan/ Edited August 16, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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