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5 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

really all that needs to be said

 

I've spent some time down South. The quality of their education is poor. You get what you pay for in this world

welp, if looking at quality?  is it amount that graduate college?  graduation rates?  cost per student?  whats the definition of quality.

 

up here in NY we lead the nation in cost and dropout rates. 

 

 

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Disney regrets that it has come to this,” the company said in its lawsuit, arguing that it found itself in the “regrettable position” because it “expressed a viewpoint the governor and his allies did not like.” Disney added, “In America, the government cannot punish you for speaking your mind.”

 

A-Men. Suck on it Meatball. This is America ya dumb jock

just think. before citizens united, that wasnt true.  and how the left hated citizens united at the time.   now its 100% supported by the left, and in turn the left is 100% funded by them

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

just think. before citizens united, that wasnt true.  and how the left hated citizens united at the time.   now its 100% supported by the left, and in turn the left is 100% funded by them

 

 


This has nothing to do with Citizens United. 

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DeSantis Protecting Medical Freedom

 

The bill, SB 252, is worded to ensure that individuals cannot be discriminated against based on vaccination status or refusal to wear a mask.

 

“It is the intent of the Legislature that Floridians be free from mandated facial coverings, mandates of any kind relating to vaccines as provided in this section, and discrimination based on such vaccination status,” it reads.

 

It continues, “The Legislature finds that society is harmed by discrimination based on vaccination status…when healthy persons are prevented from participating in society and accessing employment opportunities.”

 

It’s hard to say it much better than that.

 

There is and never was any justification for politicians or companies to demand individuals be vaccinated to enter businesses or maintain employment. As even Pfizer acknowledged, their vaccines were never tested against the ability to prevent infection.

 

But “experts” promoted inaccurate, unsupported claims that the vaccines were “100% effective” against infection regardless.

 

Similarly, masks were also relentlessly promoted and mandated despite a clear, demonstrable lack of evidence.

 

This bill ensures that Floridians will have permanent protection against the ever-encroaching biomedical security state. And it’s yet another win for Ron DeSantis and his commitment to defending freedom and liberty.

 

https://www.outkick.com/ron-desantis-works-to-permanently-ban-mask-and-vaccine-mandates-in-florida/

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45 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

really all that needs to be said

 

I've spent some time down South. The quality of their education is poor. You get what you pay for in this world

 

1 hour ago, Roundybout said:


Easy to outperform them when you drop half the curriculum because you can’t handle discussions of racism.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/best-states-for-education

 

Are you still discussing 1980 #'s? You guys believe every stupid headline you see? As I have stated multiple times, I am not arguing for the south but in Orlando my son has had opportunities that none of my cousins kids in NY have had for education and extracurricular experiences. FL gives better outcomes and more college ready kids. 

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1 hour ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

none of that is true lol

100%. and here you are defending Disneys Right to free speech. thats exactly what citizens united was about.

 

ITs all good, back then the left was anti war and anti establishment.

 

Now its pro state, pro war, and pro establishment at all times. 

 

And seems to be led around by the nose, by those very PACS and charities citizens united helped create.

 

 

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Just now, SUNY_amherst said:

 

I think you are smarter than this. You are a Western NY-er right? Not some dumb southerner from Dolphins country...

 

The citizen's united case was about campaign financing. 

Citizens united was about Corporations having free speech, and in turn the right to fund PACS that promote politicians.  got to read past the headline.  IT was a first amendment law suit.

 

 

Now you are on the side of the corporations by defending their free speech.  and in an ironic way, 100% support every topic promoted by the PACS created and funded by that ruling.  

 

Its utterly amazing how many have strong views, so strong they then use them to claim intelligence and try to insult others. then when asked for details,  they reveal they have absolutely no understanding of the topic, just parroting headlines.

 

https://www.britannica.com/event/Citizens-United-v-Federal-Election-Commission

 

 

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On 4/27/2023 at 10:57 AM, SUNY_amherst said:

 

No it wasn't. The case was about campaign financing. They used the free speech given to us in the Constitution as their argument.

 

Right or wrong, that has nothing to do with what Meatball did to Disney and how this case will be resolved.

 

 

Was first amendment suit. only way it got to the court., the results were campaign finance and what we see now where they dominate every wedge topic and lead the left around by the nose.

 

And it directly shows the how the left now supports that free speech and the PACS created by unlimited cash.

 

IF not, Disney would not be able to continue to fund things like HRC and other PACS that promote the DEMS in florida.

 

just saying.

 

 

 

 

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On 4/17/2023 at 10:03 PM, SUNY_amherst said:


 

 

pepsi flew Nixon around while Coke flew Kennedy… 

 

(but neither president tried to pick a fight with the cola rival, because this is America)
 

Do you have any further info on this or can you admit you just made it up?

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I’m not sure what DeSantis plan is, but as someone who desperately wants him over Trump, he needs to figure it out … and fast.  
 

He’s allowing Trump to define him, mainly by misrepresentations and lies, but defined he’s becoming.  
 

Im getting to the point where I’d rather just let Trump take the nomination and sink or swim.  Either way, this is his swan song.  He either wins and serves his remaining 4 years or loses and becomes a disgraced GOP pariah with only his die-hards clinging to his dying grievances. 
 

Then let DeSantis, Youngkin, Suarez etc fight it out for the future of the party, post-Trump. 
 

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27 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I’m not sure what DeSantis plan is, but as someone who desperately wants him over Trump, he needs to figure it out … and fast.  
 

He’s allowing Trump to define him, mainly by misrepresentations and lies, but defined he’s becoming.  
 

Im getting to the point where I’d rather just let Trump take the nomination and sink or swim.  Either way, this is his swan song.  He either wins and serves his remaining 4 years or loses and becomes a disgraced GOP pariah with only his die-hards clinging to his dying grievances. 
 

Then let DeSantis, Youngkin, Suarez etc fight it out for the future of the party, post-Trump. 

 

DeSantis isn't becoming defined.  He hasn't even officially declared yet.  But when he does, he'll take it to Trump like no one ever has.

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DESANTIS NUKES REPORTER OVER ‘TOTALLY BS’ CLAIM:

 

‘Focus On The Facts And Stop Worrying About Narrative.’

 

DeSantis forcefully rejected the claims made by former detainee Mansoor Adayfi, who claims that he saw a picture of DeSantis on Twitter and remembered his face from nearly two decades ago.

 

“No. No. Not at all,” DeSantis said when asked if he witnessed any instances where Al Qaeda terrorists were allegedly force fed. “That’s BS. Totally BS.”

 

When the reporter mentioned that the former detainee claimed that DeSantis was present at force-feedings, DeSantis quickly fired back at the reporter.

 

“Who said that? How would they know me?” DeSantis responded. “Okay, think about that. Do you honestly believe that’s credible? So this is 2006, I’m a junior officer, do you honestly think that they would have remembered me from that? Of course not.”

 

“They’re just trying to get into the news because they know people like you will consume it because it fits your pre-ordained narrative that you’re trying to spin,”

 

DeSantis continued. “Focus on the facts and stop worrying about narrative.”

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/desantis-nukes-reporter-over-totally-bs-claim-focus-on-the-facts-and-stop-worrying-about-narrative

 

 

 

This is the way.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Doc said:

 

DeSantis isn't becoming defined.  He hasn't even officially declared yet.  But when he does, he'll take it to Trump like no one ever has.

Hope you're right.  But the trailer home masses with fewer teeth than brain cells are stuck on him.  And meth too.

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3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Is there any human that can objectively look at Desantis and suggest he isn’t a better presidential prospect than DJT? well aside from DJT 
 

 

Trump is much better at getting people riled up, which is certainly an advantage. Unfortunately in this day and age you must get the wholy uneducated to vote for you to win, and emotion is what drives them. I know not your actual question but a major factor 

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1 minute ago, Orlando Tim said:

Trump is much better at getting people riled up, which is certainly an advantage. Unfortunately in this day and age you must get the wholy uneducated to vote for you to win, and emotion is what drives them. I know not your actual question but a major factor 

Fair point, the real war game is pitting dumb vs dumb. 
 

intelligent people realize different perspectives and compromise is a rational way to govern.
 

but neither side wastes time on the reasonable.

 

they chase the religiously loyal, single issue idiots and the low IQ folks that believe the good guy bad guy mantra. 

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1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Fair point, the real war game is pitting dumb vs dumb. 
 

intelligent people realize different perspectives and compromise is a rational way to govern.
 

but neither side wastes time on the reasonable.

 

they chase the religiously loyal, single issue idiots and the low IQ folks that believe the good guy bad guy mantra. 

Good guy bad guy mantra is why soany people are still all in on Ukraine. Ukraine is better therefore they are good guys.

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10 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Good guy bad guy mantra is why soany people are still all in on Ukraine. Ukraine is better therefore they are good guys.


we have no choice now. Ukraine was a monumental western diplomatic failure and now those poor Ukrainians are the sacrificial lambs for a front the west has to hold. 
 

If there is one thing I’ve learned living abroad it’s that when the outside world likes our leadership, it’s because they can walk all over it. They hate it when they can’t.  

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On 4/28/2023 at 12:56 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

 

EVERY media outlet led with the phrase that the superintendent was being fired for criticizing Desantis

 

Multiple examples here:  https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/04/28/msm-are-flat-out-lying-in-headlines-about-superintendent-who-could-lose-job-for-criticizing-desantis/

 

Of course, that's not the truth.

 

 

 

No surprise 

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On 4/27/2023 at 10:54 AM, Chris farley said:

Citizens united was about Corporations having free speech, and in turn the right to fund PACS that promote politicians.  got to read past the headline.  IT was a first amendment law suit.

 

 

Now you are on the side of the corporations by defending their free speech.  and in an ironic way, 100% support every topic promoted by the PACS created and funded by that ruling.  

 

Its utterly amazing how many have strong views, so strong they then use them to claim intelligence and try to insult others. then when asked for details,  they reveal they have absolutely no understanding of the topic, just parroting headlines.

 

https://www.britannica.com/event/Citizens-United-v-Federal-Election-Commission

 

 

Well a encyclopedia link seems like a good start 

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 DeSantis underwhelms Britain’s business chiefs

UK captains of industry lambast ‘low-wattage’ US presidential hopeful.

 

But Republican presidential hopeful Ron DeSantis failed to impress British business chiefs at a high-profile London event Friday, in a tired performance described variously as “horrendous,” “low-wattage” and “like the end of an overseas trip.”

 

One U.K. business figure said DeSantis “looked bored” and “stared at his feet” as he met with titans of British industry in an event co-hosted by Lloyd’s of London — the world’s largest insurance marketplace.

 

A second business figure who was in the room said it was a “low-wattage” performance and that “nobody in the room was left thinking, ‘this man’s going places’.”

 

They said: “It felt really a bit like we were watching a state-level politician. I wouldn’t be surprised if [people in attendance] came out thinking ‘that’s not the guy’.”

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/ron-detedious-how-desantis-underwhelmed-britains-business-chiefs/

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14 minutes ago, ALF said:

 DeSantis underwhelms Britain’s business chiefs

UK captains of industry lambast ‘low-wattage’ US presidential hopeful.

 

But Republican presidential hopeful Ron DeSantis failed to impress British business chiefs at a high-profile London event Friday, in a tired performance described variously as “horrendous,” “low-wattage” and “like the end of an overseas trip.”

 

One U.K. business figure said DeSantis “looked bored” and “stared at his feet” as he met with titans of British industry in an event co-hosted by Lloyd’s of London — the world’s largest insurance marketplace.

 

A second business figure who was in the room said it was a “low-wattage” performance and that “nobody in the room was left thinking, ‘this man’s going places’.”

 

They said: “It felt really a bit like we were watching a state-level politician. I wouldn’t be surprised if [people in attendance] came out thinking ‘that’s not the guy’.”

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/ron-detedious-how-desantis-underwhelmed-britains-business-chiefs/


Man, when you’re too low-energy for the British… 

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11 minutes ago, ALF said:

 DeSantis underwhelms Britain’s business chiefs

UK captains of industry lambast ‘low-wattage’ US presidential hopeful.

 

But Republican presidential hopeful Ron DeSantis failed to impress British business chiefs at a high-profile London event Friday, in a tired performance described variously as “horrendous,” “low-wattage” and “like the end of an overseas trip.”

 

One U.K. business figure said DeSantis “looked bored” and “stared at his feet” as he met with titans of British industry in an event co-hosted by Lloyd’s of London — the world’s largest insurance marketplace.

 

A second business figure who was in the room said it was a “low-wattage” performance and that “nobody in the room was left thinking, ‘this man’s going places’.”

 

They said: “It felt really a bit like we were watching a state-level politician. I wouldn’t be surprised if [people in attendance] came out thinking ‘that’s not the guy’.”

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/ron-detedious-how-desantis-underwhelmed-britains-business-chiefs/


Politico is such a partisan hack dem mouthpiece… and why didn’t you quote the third and fourth person ? I’ll help

 

”he came across well”. He was “fine” 
 

 

And why did they pull a trump and insult his name in the title?

 

if he runs it’s doubtful he gets past the primary but this article is nothing but a trolling a hit piece. And even it had asked 4 people for feedback and got two negative responses of 4 and wrote the article around the dissenting. 

 

Not a fan of his politics but, the press is constantly lying... 

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ORLANDO — The fallout came fast when Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s new election police unit charged Peter Washington with voter fraud last summer as part of a crackdown against felons who’d allegedly broken the law by casting a ballot.

The Orlando resident lost his job supervising irrigation projects, and along with it, his family’s health insurance. His wife dropped her virtual classes at Florida International University to help pay their rent. Future plans went out the window.

“It knocked me to my knees, if you want to know the truth,” he said.

But not long after, the case against Washington began falling apart. A Ninth Judicial Circuit judge ruled the statewide prosecutor who filed the charges didn’t actually have jurisdiction to do so. Washington’s attorney noted that he had received an official voter identification card in the mail after registering. The case was dismissed in February.

One by one, many of the initial 20 arrests announced by the Office of Election Crimes and Security have stumbled in court. Six cases have been dismissed. Five other defendants accepted plea deals that resulted in no jail time. Only one case has gone to trial, resulting in a split verdict. The others are pending.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/30/desantis-election-police-arrests-florida/

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The alphabet people and their advocates are calling us “book banners” for removing certain books from school libraries. One of the most defended of the books–and most attacked by parents and people who want to defend children–is “This Book is Gay.”

 

The title is genius because it makes anybody who objects to providing the book to kids seem homophobic. But the gay part of the book isn’t the truly objectionable part, but rather it is a surfeit of practical advice it gives to kids about hooking up with adults to have sex. Literally, it does that.

 

Screenshot-2023-04-29-at-3.26.55-PM-709x

 

This book does not belong in school libraries. Nobody is suggesting it be “banned” from purchase in bookstores. Any parent who gives this to their kid is insane, but no laws will prevent it.

 

But the state should not be promoting it to children, and yet it is prominently featured and promoted by school libraries as a book for LGBT-curious kids to check out.

Unsurprisingly, given the pro-groomer ideology, it is actually very controversial for parents to object to their kids encountering this book in schools, no less being encouraged to read it. But it is.

 

Somehow arguing that middle-school kids shouldn’t be hopping onto sex hookup apps makes you a medieval witch hunter.

 

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/05/01/read-this-and-weep-for-humanity-n547217

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

The alphabet people and their advocates are calling us “book banners” for removing certain books from school libraries. One of the most defended of the books–and most attacked by parents and people who want to defend children–is “This Book is Gay.”

 

The title is genius because it makes anybody who objects to providing the book to kids seem homophobic. But the gay part of the book isn’t the truly objectionable part, but rather it is a surfeit of practical advice it gives to kids about hooking up with adults to have sex. Literally, it does that.

 

Screenshot-2023-04-29-at-3.26.55-PM-709x

 

This book does not belong in school libraries. Nobody is suggesting it be “banned” from purchase in bookstores. Any parent who gives this to their kid is insane, but no laws will prevent it.

 

But the state should not be promoting it to children, and yet it is prominently featured and promoted by school libraries as a book for LGBT-curious kids to check out.

Unsurprisingly, given the pro-groomer ideology, it is actually very controversial for parents to object to their kids encountering this book in schools, no less being encouraged to read it. But it is.

 

Somehow arguing that middle-school kids shouldn’t be hopping onto sex hookup apps makes you a medieval witch hunter.

 

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/05/01/read-this-and-weep-for-humanity-n547217

 

 

 

 

I don't know, I always thought the "messy body fluids and pesky emotional stuff" were the 2 of the best parts.

 

The reason gay guys get so much sex is cuz it's 2 guys.  Duh.  Nobody gets a "headache".

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