BillsMafi$ Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) Edited March 17, 2021 by BillsMafi$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Suckers 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Wouldn't have minded taking a swing on his guy. But, we have our line for the most part. Just have to hope that Ford pans out. I have my doubts, though. Guess we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) Good signing (Fairly low risk high reward) but they still need offensive tackle help, their guard play was actually good for most of 2020. Just weird to see them go so hard after guards when they need tackle help. Edited March 17, 2021 by billsfan89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Good signing (Fairly low risk high reward) but they still need offensive tackle help, their guard play was actually good for most of 2020. Just weird to see them go so hard after guards when they need tackle help. Yes but what did they do in order to keep up with us this off-season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, sven233 said: Wouldn't have minded taking a swing on his guy. But, we have our line for the most part. Just have to hope that Ford pans out. I have my doubts, though. Guess we'll see. Yep, this year’s line. I see us adding some guys to develop so we can improve down the road, getting younger and cheaper. If he/they can contribute earlier, all the better. . Edited March 17, 2021 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Doesn't matter, the world all saw what has to happen.. Just have to commit to punching the Rat in the face and the meltdown will occur. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, ScottLaw said: What?? So much is being made of "keeping up with the Chiefs" on our side...... They are literally rebiulding their offensive line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Well looks like the Chiefs are set up to bully us up the middle with the run game. Let's hope they strike out drafting tackles.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, ScottLaw said: With really good players... Who retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Good player...about 5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, John from Riverside said: Who retired He needed to heal up to get his body right. He ain't coming back if he isn't feeling good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, TheBeaneBandit said: He needed to heal up to get his body right. He ain't coming back if he isn't feeling good. There is a lot of "ifs" in that.....this scene has played out before. Its not a auto success.....that is all I am saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 True feelin good in the gym isn't the same as on the field but the dude has the bloodlines.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Could have seen this a week ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 39 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Yes but what did they do in order to keep up with us this off-season I think our goal is to keep up with the team that beat us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 34 minutes ago, Rico said: Doesn't matter, the world all saw what has to happen.. Just have to commit to punching the Rat in the face and the meltdown will occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Well we couldn't touch Mahomes against their back ups so I'm sure they'll be fine. The Bills getting pressure is indeed a a real issue. We are all aware, against almost any team. Would it be rude to ask if there is anything you actually feel good about? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 40 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Good signing (Fairly low risk high reward) but they still need offensive tackle help, their guard play was actually good for most of 2020. Just weird to see them go so hard after guards when they need tackle help. 1st ...addressing the bolded comment...NO. No it was not. See last response for more on this. Your resident Chiefs fan here to offer insight..... That's waht this is....a low risk, high reward signing....Long spent the last 4 years of his playing career hurt often...then retired...an now back....very talented when healthy....of course...that's the key here isn't it? Keep in mind KC signed Long as possible starter, and depth piece...he can play tackle as well if needed. 11 minutes ago, Doc said: Good player...about 5 years ago. Yep....he may well suck....5 million to see if he does or not....OK...for one year prove it deal..that's fine. 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Well we couldn't touch Mahomes against their back ups so I'm sure they'll be fine. I've alluded to it before....KC's oline looked really great against the Bills in week 6..and was good in the conference championship game.....but in week 6 KC started the backup C...who was better than the starter....and probalby that lineup was the BEST one we fielded all year. ....even if you consider the regular grouping though...our interior O LINE WAS BAD. no push..not good at pass protection either (ignore the sack number, Mahomes makes alot of that look way better than it is) Stats and national pundits always think KC has "good line"....they haven't had a good line since 2018. It's been steep downhill on the IOL since. Long is NOT being looked at as a surefire starter...he will compete for the RG job..but if doesn't win that....will be depth peice. Also plays tackle if needed..he's a depth peice that might win starting job. Good signing in that regard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: 1st ...addressing the bolded comment...NO. No it was not. See last response for more on this. Your resident Chiefs fan here to offer insight..... That's waht this is....a low risk, high reward signing....Long spent the last 4 years of his playing career hurt often...then retired...an now back....very talented when healthy....of course...that's the key here isn't it? Keep in mind KC signed Long as possible starter, and depth piece...he can play tackle as well if needed. Yep....he may well suck....5 million to see if he does or not....OK...for one year prove it deal..that's fine. I've alluded to it before....KC's oline looked really great against the Bills in week 6..and was good in the conference championship game.....but in week 6 KC started the backup C...who was better than the starter....and probalby that lineup was the BEST one we fielded all year. ....even if you consider the regular grouping though...our interior O LINE WAS BAD. no push..not good at pass protection either (ignore the sack number, Mahomes makes alot of that look way better than it is) Stats and national pundits always think KC has "good line"....they haven't had a good line since 2018. It's been steep downhill on the IOL since. Long is NOT being looked at as a surefire starter...he will compete for the RG job..but if doesn't win that....will be depth peice. Also plays tackle if needed..he's a depth peice that might win starting job. Good signing in that regard. Are you guys expecting the MD back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 $5 mil is a lot to pay to see if a guy is healthy and can play. Interested to see cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, whatdrought said: Are you guys expecting the MD back? By all accounts he will be back. He played poorly the season BEFORE covid....he will compete for the RG job along with Long. One of them will win that....and the other is the backup. Frankly I suspect the MD wins it because he has no versatility otherwise....Long probalby more valuable as a backup to every spot on teh line but Center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Zerovoltz said: By all accounts he will be back. He played poorly the season BEFORE covid....he will compete for the RG job along with Long. One of them will win that....and the other is the backup. Frankly I suspect the MD wins it because he has no versatility otherwise....Long probalby more valuable as a backup to every spot on teh line but Center. Whose at LG? Also, did Niang opt out last year- did I see that correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: $5 mil is a lot to pay to see if a guy is healthy and can play. Interested to see cap hit. As of today (not sure bofore or after Signing Long) KC had cleared 30 million in Cap space for new league year. I can't stress enough that the CAP is not prohibative, if you beleive it keeps going up and your owner can write checks when needed. Just now, whatdrought said: Whose at LG? Also, did Niang opt out last year- did I see that correctly? Thuney will be the starting LG. Niang DID opt out last year for Covid.....and by all accounts, his hip has healed up and he's strong and chomping at the bit. Right now...he's IT at RT...that is risky...will see what other moves they make. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 By the way I am not saying this is a bad signing....Kyle was great when he retired Just that anytime there is change you dont know if your going up or down with a player that retired. If news came out that WE had brought in Kyle I would be pleased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: As of today (not sure bofore or after Signing Long) KC had cleared 30 million in Cap space for new league year. I can't stress enough that the CAP is not prohibative, if you beleive it keeps going up and your owner can write checks when needed. Thuney will be the starting LG. Niang DID opt out last year for Covid.....and by all accounts, his hip has healed up and he's strong and chomping at the bit. Right now...he's IT at RT...that is risky...will see what other moves they make. Duh, forgot about Thuney. okay. I wondered about that cause I thought he had opted out, but the way people were saying the chiefs are high on him and think he can be the guy it sounded like they had more than pre-draft feelings. Definitely a risk with a player who hasn’t really been in the building. I liked his talent coming out though, so we’ll see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: As of today (not sure bofore or after Signing Long) KC had cleared 30 million in Cap space for new league year. I can't stress enough that the CAP is not prohibative, if you beleive it keeps going up and your owner can write checks when needed. Thuney will be the starting LG. Niang DID opt out last year for Covid.....and by all accounts, his hip has healed up and he's strong and chomping at the bit. Right now...he's IT at RT...that is risky...will see what other moves they make. Eventually it will catch up to the team. It always does. Enjoy it while you can. Besides Tampa showed KC is far from invincible. Injuries happen and lack of depth caused KC’s downfall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Yes but what did they do in order to keep up with us this off-season Top be fair, they had no kind of trade capital like Lee Smith... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I know this is a Bills forum, so forgive me that this is a Chiefs post...but KC having to deal with the OT's AND the IOL this offseason is a wrench in the works...they were always going to have to address the IOL....but they thought they had BOTH starting OT at cheap prices for one more year.... The Line was going to get something of a makeover for 2021 anyhow....and 2022 would have been the OT's as well....it's all just happening at once...not ideal.....but considering again...that this has never been a good line...especially in short yardage....there is a chance that KC comes out BETTER (MAYBE!!!) on the other side of this. Also could be a nightmare if more injuries or chemistry doens't work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, Zerovoltz said: I know this is a Bills forum, so forgive me that this is a Chiefs post...but KC having to deal with the OT's AND the IOL this offseason is a wrench in the works...they were always going to have to address the IOL....but they thought they had BOTH starting OT at cheap prices for one more year.... The Line was going to get something of a makeover for 2021 anyhow....and 2022 would have been the OT's as well....it's all just happening at once...not ideal.....but considering again...that this has never been a good line...especially in short yardage....there is a chance that KC comes out BETTER (MAYBE!!!) on the other side of this. Also could be a nightmare if more injuries or chemistry doens't work. Hm. Well, I hope nothing horrible ever happens to the chiefs........ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Eventually it will catch up to the team. It always does. Enjoy it while you can. Besides Tampa showed KC is far from invincible. Injuries happen and lack of depth caused KC’s downfall. I disagree.....if mangaged right...you can kick and kick and kick..until you are ready to pay the piper....the piper doesn't come for you....(again, if done right) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Eventually it will catch up to the team. It always does. Enjoy it while you can. Besides Tampa showed KC is far from invincible. Injuries happen and lack of depth caused KC’s downfall. define: whistling past the graveyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Are you guys expecting the MD back? 75% chance he wants to return. 50% chance we cut him if he does. 23 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: $5 mil is a lot to pay to see if a guy is healthy and can play. Interested to see cap hit. Up to $5M. It’s going to be heavily incentive laden. If he can’t play, it’s going to look a lot like the veteran minimum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 It’s a gamble, but think it’s worth a try. Just gotta wonder what football shape he is in at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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