co_springs_billsfan Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, Rampage said: Judon is another one, completely faded down the stretch. Invisible in the big games. Jalen Mills was the only decent signing. Hunter Henry played pretty well too but that cap number is absurd. They spent money to spend money and this is the result of not being able to draft. Winovich got hurt and regressed, Joejuan Williams is a bum so they had to sign Mills. Might lose JC Jackson now. They’re in big trouble. Geriatric defense. They're light on draft picks and cap space too. Ton of expiring contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 They were able to benefit for years signing people cheap so that they could play with Brady and possibly win a super bowl. Those days are over, I don’t see free agent wide receivers chomping at the bit to play with Mac. They’ll have to pay like everyone else now, not only that but do free agents really find Bill’s boring style of play fun? The players seem miserable. I see a rough patch ahead for the Patsies. How could it not be knowing you have to face Allen the next 7 years at least? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Smith is completely used wrong in NE. They are trying to use him like they used Hernandez, and he is not that type of player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 39 minutes ago, Trogdor said: Belichick is one of if not the best coach of all time, but he is an awful GM. He can and does win without Brady, but that defense is a bunch of guys about to retire and needs a lot of work. I don't think he is the guy to rebuild while developing a QB. One or the other and he is probably in the playoffs more often than not. He has three winning seasons without Brady all time. He is 1-2 in the playoffs without him. How many coaches would still have a job, let a lone be called one of the best all time with 3 winning seasons in 9 years? He is a sub .475 coach without Brady, thats worse than Matt Nagy, Bill O'Brien, Marvin Lewis, Dan Quinn, Jack Del Rio, and Rex Ryan. Tom Brady was the Patriot Way, and without him Bill Belichick would have been fired in New England as well, he was 11-16 in his first two years there in games Brady didnt start. People can roll their eyes and disagree all they want, but if Tom Brady never happens in NE, Belichick probably ends up back with Parcells in Dallas in 2003. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRBills Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: Looking at the top 100 list of free agents .. most of the few who really performed at a high-level this year were the ones that their original teams resigned. Hopefully TBD will remember that when we do not go on a spending spree this offseason. https://www.nfl.com/news/top-101-nfl-free-agents-of-2021-who-are-the-best-players-available I love our team and hope that we can keep it as intact as possible and only add players via the draft. I hope free agency is only retaining the roster, I have no issue not bringing in any big name free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 56 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He played 21 snaps He didn't do anything apparently...not like many of them did other than Bourne. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 42 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: He has three winning seasons without Brady all time. He is 1-2 in the playoffs without him. How many coaches would still have a job, let a lone be called one of the best all time with 3 winning seasons in 9 years? He is a sub .475 coach without Brady, thats worse than Matt Nagy, Bill O'Brien, Marvin Lewis, Dan Quinn, Jack Del Rio, and Rex Ryan. Tom Brady was the Patriot Way, and without him Bill Belichick would have been fired in New England as well, he was 11-16 in his first two years there in games Brady didnt start. People can roll their eyes and disagree all they want, but if Tom Brady never happens in NE, Belichick probably ends up back with Parcells in Dallas in 2003. It still takes 2 to tango He won 11 games with Matt Cassell Cassell ******* sucks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: It still takes 2 to tango He won 11 games with Matt Cassell Cassell ******* sucks You're pointing to the one season he was able to do that. Dick Jauron won ten games in the league before. My point is, without Brady, in its entirety, Belichick isnt some coaching God. He is a coach in the league without Brady, and a substandard coach in the league at that. I'd say that it takes 2 to tango, except Brady seems to be doing pretty well without BB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: You're pointing to the one season he was able to do that. Dick Jauron won ten games in the league before. My point is, without Brady, in its entirety, Belichick isnt some coaching God. He is a coach in the league without Brady, and a substandard coach in the league at that. I'd say that it takes 2 to tango, except Brady seems to be doing pretty well without BB. The Patriots suck he coached up a terrible team to the playoffs . Belichick just went to the playoffs with a rag arm quarterback and a s***** defense.. that defense was so overrated and slow.. it's a miracle he got that in the top 5 I'm not going to sit here and say Bill belichick sucks because he's not a terrible coach He created the best game plan in NFL history to stop our own Buffalo Bills in the bowl against the Giants he's a great coach, nobody's a god Edited January 17, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: To me, Jonnu will always be the guy whose angry pregnant girlfriend boiled a pot of water just to dump it on him: https://www.si.com/college/2016/11/10/fiu-jonnu-smith-girlfriend-boiling-water-injury By definition that’s premeditated! You’ve got to wait 6-10 minutes! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 This is the risk of signing high dollar FA’s from outside of your organization. I hope the Bills do a very good job of drafting and developing. Pay the guys on the roster that deserve it. Beyond that, bring in only “value” free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Is he just the TE version on Matt Breida? Having the physical ability to be a very good player but the football IQ just isn’t there and that makes them a liability on the field. for BB to sign him to all that money and never include him in the game plan is telling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 5 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: He has three winning seasons without Brady all time. He is 1-2 in the playoffs without him. How many coaches would still have a job, let a lone be called one of the best all time with 3 winning seasons in 9 years? He is a sub .475 coach without Brady, thats worse than Matt Nagy, Bill O'Brien, Marvin Lewis, Dan Quinn, Jack Del Rio, and Rex Ryan. Tom Brady was the Patriot Way, and without him Bill Belichick would have been fired in New England as well, he was 11-16 in his first two years there in games Brady didnt start. People can roll their eyes and disagree all they want, but if Tom Brady never happens in NE, Belichick probably ends up back with Parcells in Dallas in 2003. He has had 2 losing seasons in NE including the first and the last one with the COVID holdouts and Cam. He got the browns to 11-5 with Testeverde lol. The Browns were a team that a lot of people thought were going to take a bigger step before they collapsed following the relocation announcement. Lots of guys would be coaching with this resume. Did Brady coach all those amazing defenses that won them those early championships? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 8 hours ago, Trogdor said: Belichick is one of if not the best coach of all time, but he is an awful GM. He can and does win without Brady, but that defense is a bunch of guys about to retire and needs a lot of work. I don't think he is the guy to rebuild while developing a QB. One or the other and he is probably in the playoffs more often than not. This is what was said last year. That he had too many players on defense who bailed out on Covid. However, they all came back and the result was still the same; except they beat up on bad teams. I think Bill and Josh McDaniels have been getting a pass for too long and they are cooked without a Franchise QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, ganesh said: This is what was said last year. That he had too many players on defense who bailed out on Covid. However, they all came back and the result was still the same; except they beat up on bad teams. I think Bill and Josh McDaniels have been getting a pass for too long and they are cooked without a Franchise QB It was a pretty good defense, it definitely needs to be rebuilt. They are super old on that side of the ball and not much better on the other. What does he do now with the nepotism hire? That's still a 10 win team with a rookie, I don't think that equals bad coaching. The Bills are just much better at almost every major position. I can't wait to watch them try and rebuild while developing a QB though, I don't think he sticks around for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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