oldmanfan Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 He has to pass Saban first. As for Marv, I think all Bills fans love and respect Marv, but I do not feel he should be in the HOF. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Marv won a lot of games for us. Players loved to play for Marv. Marv was a gentleman. Marv was a teacher, philosopher and selfless leader. Marv would say, if he had the chance, about this question. "Where would you rather be than right here right now". We hope that McDermott will be better, and we hope that Josh is better than Jim, and we wish we could find someone better than Bruce, Thurman and Darryl. None of those desires lessens the greatness of those greats players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Marv won a lot of games for us. Players loved to play for Marv. Marv was a gentleman. Marv was a teacher, philosopher and selfless leader. Marv would say, if he had the chance, about this question. "Where would you rather be than right here right now". We hope that McDermott will be better, and we hope that Josh is better than Jim, and we wish we could find someone better than Bruce, Thurman and Darryl. None of those desires lessens the greatness of those greats players. Agreed, but perhaps Marv could have been a better 'hall monitor / chaperone' on prom weekend? 🤔 * 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Well Marv is 112-70 in his Bills career and 11-8 in the playoffs Sean is 38-26 so far and 2-3 in the playoffs So he needs 74 more wins in the regular season and 9 more in the playoffs Can we revisit this in 5 or 6 years? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: A parade through downtown Buffalo ends this debate...as Allen quite frankly can do things no other QB in the history of this franchise has had the talent to do Absolutely. The Bills win a Super Bowl with McDermott as coach ( I believe they will) then not only does he move ahead of Marv on the Bills coaching list but Josh also moves ahead of Jim as the best Bills QB in franchise history. If their was ever a team and region where winning a championship would lead to an epic celebration its the Buffalo Bills and WNY. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 How about winning an AFC title game first before comparing him to Marv. That being said he shows some good potential. His performance in the championship game was disappointing and he'd probably agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 The only way to surpass Marv is #1 to win a Super bowl....or#2 Lose 5 times in the Super Bowl🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 35 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Agreed, but perhaps Marv could have been a better 'hall monitor / chaperone' on prom weekend? 🤔 * 😁 Agreed...but strangely one if the habits that made this era such a great team was in the end, a downfall. But, now, many years later, even with the result known from 4 SB, I have nothing but respect and admiration for guy who developed and lead them through an era. I even forgive Marv for coming back and hiring Jauron, the era had passed and Marv came to help in a crisis, as any leader would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Levy is overrated and should not be in HOF. That said McD has has a ways to go to even get close to Levy, Knox, or Saban. It’s just too soon to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Levy is overrated and should not be in HOF. That said McD has has a ways to go to even get close to Levy, Knox, or Saban. It’s just too soon to know. The Bills should have beaten the Giants. Washington just physically dominated them and Dallas was the better team. That was back when the NFC won something like 12 or 13 Super Bowls in a row. People used to say the NFC championship game was the real Super Bowl. That Giant game though was the one that got away. That was the year the Bills should have been Super Bowl champions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 6 hours ago, White Linen said: You mean like similar to the KC game? I think injuries played a role more than people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 32 minutes ago, Greg S said: The Bills should have beaten the Giants. Washington just physically dominated them and Dallas was the better team. That was back when the NFC won something like 12 or 13 Super Bowls in a row. People used to say the NFC championship game was the real Super Bowl. That Giant game though was the one that got away. That was the year the Bills should have been Super Bowl champions. It’s a testament to Marv to get the team to keep coming back. But it was a weak AFC and he was out coached by Parcells and Belichick in the most important game of his career. Washington was too physically dominant to compete against even with an average QB. Dallas could have been beaten the second game. Bills had half-time lead but played scared and choked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 4 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: You’re such a wisears. Probably one of the reasons I like you’re posts. He’s bored. That’s all. Levy was a good coach and a better guy, but not a great coach. I don’t think he could’ve done much about the last three SB’s as those teams were just better than us. The Giants one was a sin. I just moved to Tampa a few days before the game. It was so painful being across the street at the Tampa mall with 15,000 other folks. The local radio station similar to 97 rock in Buffalo put a movie screen on the side of Macy’s. They had vans with monster radio speakers. I had the unfortunate luck of being with friends who were all for the Giants. Ughh! McD will probably end up as the top Bills coach someday, but not today. To the OP, this will be a great conversation for us to have in seven years or so. I have a great deal of confidence he will get us past the finish line, and may end up the winningest coach in Bills history, and he does have something in his corner. Beane like Polian will go down as one of the best GM’s we’ve ever had, and like Polian has a vision for what he sees for our team. I agree. Marv was not a great coach (SB 25 laid that bare) , but a great man. I wish Bean's vision would include (at some point) a larger or smarter investment in TE-1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Agreed, but perhaps Marv could have been a better 'hall monitor / chaperone' on prom weekend? 🤔 * 😁 Do grown men really need to be told to “rest up, you have a big day tomorrow!”. No. No they do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 He has 4 Super Bowl appearances to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I voted no in consideration of a scenario where the Bills would have that one magical SB season where it'd all come together. I think a one off SB win doesn't top sustained success and dominance like the 1990s Bills had. Is Doug Pederson the best coach in Eagles history because he hit pay dirt one year? I think the McDermott era would, at minimum, have to have the Bills of the 2020s stringing together division titles and AFC division and championship games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, dpberr said: I voted no in consideration of a scenario where the Bills would have that one magical SB season where it'd all come together. I think a one off SB win doesn't top sustained success and dominance like the 1990s Bills had. Is Doug Pederson the best coach in Eagles history because he hit pay dirt one year? I think the McDermott era would, at minimum, have to have the Bills of the 2020s stringing together division titles and AFC division and championship games. What those Bills teams accomplished starting in late 80's thru the early 90's was amazing. Bill, Marv, Jim, Thurman, Bruce, Andre and those teams are legends and will always be looked at favorably. But if the Bills win a Super Bowl even if its just one Super Bowl that will have a greater impact than what those Bills teams in the 90's accomplished. The celebration in WNY would be legendary if/when the Bills win it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 54 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I think injuries played a role more than people think. So if Mahomes was healthy, it would have been a worse beat down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Not a terrible thread for the offseason, but it's way too early for this discussion. Mcdermott needs to win a SB or have 5+ years of sustained success before this could be taken seriously. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 McDermott is off to a great start but this is insanely early. Say what you want to about Marv as an X and O, but he still led a team to 4 straight Super Bowls and countless division titles. To get a team to rebound after those losses (in which 3 of them, the Bills were the less talented team) and hold the team together during the bickering bills, is an insanely impressive coaching job. the league is so different with the cap so McDermott won’t need to make 4 straight SBs. But one would be a good start. But it’s an impressive start no doubt. But I think this is when it gets really challenging. Real expectations and a much tighter cap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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