ndirish1978 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: The amount of anger and bitterness towards Watson instead of McNair in this thread is really strange. You're missing the real point. Whenever you read someone criticizing Deshaun just hit the translate button and read the intent behind it "this sucks, we finally have the best QB in the division with little competition, I don't want someone that's as good as Josh or better playing us 2x a year." I don't care about Deshaun Watson, his politics or his feelings either way. I would like him to sign somewhere other than the AFC East. If he signs here, I will hate him as I have hated many others. That is all. Edited January 29, 2021 by ndirish1978 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Watson is going where Watson wants to go. Name all the hypotheticals you want. It doesn't matter. If it isn't Miami it's not happening. The only solution I can MAYBE see Watson accepting would be Arizona. AZ would have to trade Murray. Houston gets a QB at least the fans could be happy and somewhat excited about bc Tua ain't it. Jimmy G ain't it. Darnold ain't it. Arizona upgrades QB and reunites Hopkins with him. They'd be idiots to not do this. Both guys traded out of conference. This is the only plausible alternative to Miami. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Just now, ndirish1978 said: You're missing the real point. Whenever you read someone criticizing Deshaun just hit the translate button and read the intent behind it "this sucks, we finally have the best QB in the division with little competition, I don't want someone that's as good as Josh or better playing us 2x a year." You're close, but I'm not sure it's only that. It's nice you're giving folks that much benefit of the doubt though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: You're close, but I'm not sure it's only that. It's nice you're giving folks that much benefit of the doubt though. To be fair, I read about 2% of the posts and then just inserted my own feeling in the response. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 37 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Watson is going where Watson wants to go. Name all the hypotheticals you want. It doesn't matter. If it isn't Miami it's not happening. The only solution I can MAYBE see Watson accepting would be Arizona. AZ would have to trade Murray. Houston gets a QB at least the fans could be happy and somewhat excited about bc Tua ain't it. Jimmy G ain't it. Darnold ain't it. Arizona upgrades QB and reunites Hopkins with him. They'd be idiots to not do this. Both guys traded out of conference. This is the only plausible alternative to Miami. That's it. Then he's not going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: While I mainly side with Watson, this is a good and true point. I looked up when he signed his new deal, and it was WELL AFTER they traded Hopkins away. So he should have known at that point. But I am still giving him some benefit of the doubt that he really was trying to be a good, loyal employee and team mate, and probably thought that if he signed it would help bring some stability to the organization. Which normally it should and would, but now he sees how truly incompetent McNair is, and things have changed. Things change, and not always for the better. None of us would want to work for such an employer. And the fact that he will get to keep the signing bonus he just got had nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Negan said: I'd let him rot on the bench and not trade him, too bad I’m inclined to agree, but I haven’t read the whole thread. If he refuses to report, can mgmt sue him to recover bonus $ already paid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 If Watson wants out, someone didn’t give Culley the message. That guy seems pretty convinced Deshaun is going to be his QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: Watson is going where Watson wants to go. Name all the hypotheticals you want. It doesn't matter. If it isn't Miami it's not happening. The only solution I can MAYBE see Watson accepting would be Arizona. AZ would have to trade Murray. Houston gets a QB at least the fans could be happy and somewhat excited about bc Tua ain't it. Jimmy G ain't it. Darnold ain't it. Arizona upgrades QB and reunites Hopkins with him. They'd be idiots to not do this. Both guys traded out of conference. This is the only plausible alternative to Miami. That's it. OR , He could go nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Ehh, see above. Cant fault him for trying to help right the ship. Remember, the Hopkins trade was bad, but things got even worse well after that. Watt and players trying to fight BOB in practice didnt happen until after Watson's deal was signed. Whaaaat? I mean, say more about this? 31 minutes ago, SCBills said: If Watson wants out, someone didn’t give Culley the message. That guy seems pretty convinced Deshaun is going to be his QB. Linky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Doc said: Then he's not going anywhere. You apparently have a lot of inside information...What’s your source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Whaaaat? I mean, say more about this? Linky? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Hardball time. Then again, a famous Houston team once stated they had no urgency to make a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 If I'm Houston I absolutely refuse to trade him and if he sits I'd blackball him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 19 minutes ago, mannc said: You apparently have a lot of inside information...What’s your source? Because they're not going to let him dictate where he goes. That is, if they do trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Watson is going where Watson wants to go. Name all the hypotheticals you want. It doesn't matter. If it isn't Miami it's not happening. The only solution I can MAYBE see Watson accepting would be Arizona. AZ would have to trade Murray. Houston gets a QB at least the fans could be happy and somewhat excited about bc Tua ain't it. Jimmy G ain't it. Darnold ain't it. Arizona upgrades QB and reunites Hopkins with him. They'd be idiots to not do this. Both guys traded out of conference. This is the only plausible alternative to Miami. That's it. Next time you have a beer with him, ask him if he has room for any more friends. I’d love to be his friend too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 30 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Whaaaat? I mean, say more about this? Linky? Watt and players trying to fight with BOB is a wild exaggeration. And the Link came from Culleys opening remarks at his intro press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Doc said: Because they're not going to let him dictate where he goes. That is, if they do trade him. This is true. Unless Caserio is not smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Doc said: Because they're not going to let him dictate where he goes. That is, if they do trade him. Sure about that? The no-trade clause means Watson can veto ANY trade if he so chooses...so in other words, yes he can pick where he wants to go OR he cans sit out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I’m really confused as to why everyone says Watson has all the leverage. He’s under contract. If he doesn’t play, he doesn’t get paid. His signing bonus would be in jeopardy I assume? What does it mean when his contract states “73 million guaranteed at signing”. Did he get paid 73 mill already and maybe have to pay it back? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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