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9 minutes ago, TroutDog said:

He is phenomenal. Could see a similar pro trajectory in the right setting. 

 

Agreed, with the big difference being Diggs was a 5th round draft choice and came cheap. I love both players, but I’d rather find that hidden gem in a later round......but I may nitpicking.  Love both players. 

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13 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Agreed, with the big difference being Diggs was a 5th round draft choice and came cheap. I love both players, but I’d rather find that hidden gem in a later round......but I may nitpicking.  Love both players. 


If we’re picking from this game, I’d much rather have Mayer from the Irish. He’s the real deal, smart and and athletic big man at TE. 

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I prefer to see someone who had proven it at the pro level. That kid had real skills but doing it with the talent playing a across from you in the NFL is different. Today when he hung up there for that midfield floater he would have been lit-up by any NFL team. 

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He’s awesome but he’s very slight.  He’s got an extremely skinny lower body.  Not sure I’ve seen a dominant NFL WR who’s that skinny.  Maybe Marvin Harrison? 

They’re calling him “the Slim Reaper”

56 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

At the college level similar size, suction cups for hands,  runs after the catch....kinda glad we have the pro version geez 

Hey....I asked this question in another thread!! New Years Games thread

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1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

Agreed, with the big difference being Diggs was a 5th round draft choice and came cheap. I love both players, but I’d rather find that hidden gem in a later round......but I may nitpicking.  Love both players. 

Good luck with that! :)

 

1 hour ago, TroutDog said:


If we’re picking from this game, I’d much rather have Mayer from the Irish. He’s the real deal, smart and and athletic big man at TE. 

OK then!

 

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Do you disagree?

I do Sir. Davonta has the best hands in the NCAA. He also is always open and can leap WAY into the air and catch anything near him.

 

As for the TE position, Kyle Pitts from Florida is just sensational. He is the best TE prospect I have seen since Kelen Winslow......Senior lol. I know it is a complete reach but I can see him making the HOF some day.

There are quite a few players on Alabama that I would love to see the Bills draft. One in particular, but I won't get into that until after the Bills win the super bowl (which I fully expect). I would prefer Pitts to any of them but he will be gone in the top 10, which almost never happens to a TE. 

 

Jmo. :)

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

I do Sir. Davonta has the best hands in the NCAA. He also is always open and can leap WAY into the air and catch anything near him.

 

As for the TE position, Kyle Pitts from Florida is just sensational. He is the best TE prospect I have seen since Kelen Winslow......Senior lol. I know it is a complete reach but I can see him making the HOF some day.

There are quite a few players on Alabama that I would love to see the Bills draft. One in particular, but I won't get into that until after the Bills win the super bowl (which I fully expect). I would prefer Pitts to any of them but he will be gone in the top 10, which almost never happens to a TE. 

 

Jmo. :)

 

 

 

Where is he projected to go in the draft?  Upthread someone implied the Jets, which I assume means 2overall.  Taking a skinny kid at 2 who has “proven it” against The Citadel et al would be a Jets move for sure.

 

Where do you see him in comparison to Jeudy and Ruggs? 

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Where is he projected to go in the draft?  Upthread someone implied the Jets, which I assume means 2overall.  Taking a skinny kid at 2 who has “proven it” against The Citadel et al would be a Jets move for sure.

 

Where do you see him in comparison to Jeudy and Ruggs? 

Sorry, the above comment, if serious, is utterly wrong and rather ridiculous. Davonta caught the National Title winning pass in 2018, in overtime no less. This year, he played against 11 SEC Teams and Notre Dame and nobody was able to stop him. Oh, and he did so after losing his partner Jalen Waddle, who is hurt, but will be a certain first round pick if he comes out. DS was just voted the AP Player of the Year.  Citadel? C'mon, really. Don't be surprised if he wins the Heisman Trophy.

 

Davonta will probably go in the top ten. He is a fantastic player and a great kid. Ruggs is faster but I prefer Davonta. Jeudy is great, but he has no quarterback of note. Imo he is one of the most talented receivers in the NFL. He is very different than Davonta, but I would have a hard time choosing between the two. Jeudy did say last year that Davonta had the best hands on the team. 

 

If you really do appreciate watching good young players, also keep your eye on Waddle. If he fully recovers from his injury he will be a superstar. 

 

Jmo, and happy New Year to you and yours!  :)

 

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11 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

I do Sir. Davonta has the best hands in the NCAA. He also is always open and can leap WAY into the air and catch anything near him.

 

As for the TE position, Kyle Pitts from Florida is just sensational. He is the best TE prospect I have seen since Kelen Winslow......Senior lol. I know it is a complete reach but I can see him making the HOF some day.

There are quite a few players on Alabama that I would love to see the Bills draft. One in particular, but I won't get into that until after the Bills win the super bowl (which I fully expect). I would prefer Pitts to any of them but he will be gone in the top 10, which almost never happens to a TE. 

 

Jmo. :)

 

 

 

I would love to see us aggressively pursue a big, athletic, TE who can run and catch this offseason.

 

I think it should be regarded as the No. 1 plan for improving the team.

 

 

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On 1/2/2021 at 10:31 AM, Bill from NYC said:

Sorry, the above comment, if serious, is utterly wrong and rather ridiculous. Davonta caught the National Title winning pass in 2018, in overtime no less. This year, he played against 11 SEC Teams and Notre Dame and nobody was able to stop him. Oh, and he did so after losing his partner Jalen Waddle, who is hurt, but will be a certain first round pick if he comes out. DS was just voted the AP Player of the Year.  Citadel? C'mon, really. Don't be surprised if he wins the Heisman Trophy.

 

Davonta will probably go in the top ten. He is a fantastic player and a great kid. Ruggs is faster but I prefer Davonta. Jeudy is great, but he has no quarterback of note. Imo he is one of the most talented receivers in the NFL. He is very different than Davonta, but I would have a hard time choosing between the two. Jeudy did say last year that Davonta had the best hands on the team. 

 

If you really do appreciate watching good young players, also keep your eye on Waddle. If he fully recovers from his injury he will be a superstar. 

 

Jmo, and happy New Year to you and yours!  :)

 

I don't think jeudy will be anything special in the league imo

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On 1/2/2021 at 10:25 AM, Bill from NYC said:

I do Sir. Davonta has the best hands in the NCAA. He also is always open and can leap WAY into the air and catch anything near him.

 

As for the TE position, Kyle Pitts from Florida is just sensational. He is the best TE prospect I have seen since Kelen Winslow......Senior lol. I know it is a complete reach but I can see him making the HOF some day.

There are quite a few players on Alabama that I would love to see the Bills draft. One in particular, but I won't get into that until after the Bills win the super bowl (which I fully expect). I would prefer Pitts to any of them but he will be gone in the top 10, which almost never happens to a TE. 

 

Jmo. :)

 

 

I did my Kyle Pitts tape deep dive the other day and he has the highest grade I have ever given to a tight end since I have been doing this. In my history I think David Njoku is the only tight end I have ever had a 1st on (OJ Howard was a 1st/2nd borderline in the same draft) but Pitts is exceptional. I personally still wouldn't pick him top 10, not sure I'd pick any TE top 10..... but he may well end up one of my top 10 grades in this class and he will go no lower than 15th. Depends how many QBs get pushed up. 

 

I basically agree with you on Smith as well I think. A lot of people have Chase #1 and Smith #2.... still early in my process but at the moment I think I have them the other way around. 

 

What is you view on Mack Jones Bill? 

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I did my Kyle Pitts tape deep dive the other day and he has the highest grade I have ever given to a tight end since I have been doing this. In my history I think David Njoku is the only tight end I have ever had a 1st on (OJ Howard was a 1st/2nd borderline in the same draft) but Pitts is exceptional. I personally still wouldn't pick him top 10, not sure I'd pick any TE top 10..... but he may well end up one of my top 10 grades in this class and he will go no lower than 15th. Depends how many QBs get pushed up. 

 

I basically agree with you on Smith as well I think. A lot of people have Chase #1 and Smith #2.... still early in my process but at the moment I think I have them the other way around. 

 

What is you view on Mack Jones Bill? 

Before I answer, let me just say that I am humbled that you would even ask my opinion. I admire and appreciate the work you do on the draft.

 

I'll start from the beginning. Late last season, I was unimpressed with Mac. He threw 2 pick sixes against Auburn and really didn't look ready (to me). When we played Michigan in the bowl game, it was a different story, BUT; I had not seen enough of Mich. or the Big 10 as a whole to know how impressed to be. To take it a step further, I thought that he would begin this season as a starter, and lose the job to the #1 recruit in the country, freshman Bryce Young. Now, I will skip to this year.

 

Mac made tremendous strides this year. The kid is very, very smart and is quick to see which receiver will NOT get open on a play, thus enabling him to find an open receiver (admittedly not a hard task at Alabama). He seems to have perfect timing as well. I have seen him on numerous occasions look as if he is pushing the ball into a small, specific target and do so with great accuracy. He does have something of a fastball, but we are spoiled by Josh :). Trust me, it ain't THAT fast! He is not a runner but he has great feet in the pocket. He isn't afraid to take off and run when warranted, but he isn't that athletic and even needs to work on his slide.

Now, I will make a comparison, but PLEASE don't misunderstand. I am ONLY talking style in the case of yes, Tom Brady. Like him or hate him, there is no qb who ever lived that can process the field like Brady. He can look off of a covered receiver in a second or 2 and WILL find an open man. Mac does this too but keep in mind, he does so with potential HOF receivers (Smith and Waddle), and a GREAT OL, this against college teams albeit great ones.

A more realistic comparison would be Cousins. I think that Mac has a higher ceiling than Cousins, but nothing near the ceiling of Josh Allen.

 

I think that he will go earlier than expected. If fact, I predict that Belichick will draft him. GB, I predict that the Bills will win the Super Bowl, so I am all but sure that he will be gone well before we draft in round 1. What do you think?

 

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18 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Before I answer, let me just say that I am humbled that you would even ask my opinion. I admire and appreciate the work you do on the draft.

 

I'll start from the beginning. Late last season, I was unimpressed with Mac. He threw 2 pick sixes against Auburn and really didn't look ready (to me). When we played Michigan in the bowl game, it was a different story, BUT; I had not seen enough of Mich. or the Big 10 as a whole to know how impressed to be. To take it a step further, I thought that he would begin this season as a starter, and lose the job to the #1 recruit in the country, freshman Bryce Young. Now, I will skip to this year.

 

Mac made tremendous strides this year. The kid is very, very smart and is quick to see which receiver will NOT get open on a play, thus enabling him to find an open receiver (admittedly not a hard task at Alabama). He seems to have perfect timing as well. I have seen him on numerous occasions look as if he is pushing the ball into a small, specific target and do so with great accuracy. He does have something of a fastball, but we are spoiled by Josh :). Trust me, it ain't THAT fast! He is not a runner but he has great feet in the pocket. He isn't afraid to take off and run when warranted, but he isn't that athletic and even needs to work on his slide.

Now, I will make a comparison, but PLEASE don't misunderstand. I am ONLY talking style in the case of yes, Tom Brady. Like him or hate him, there is no qb who ever lived that can process the field like Brady. He can look off of a covered receiver in a second or 2 and WILL find an open man. Mac does this too but keep in mind, he does so with potential HOF receivers (Smith and Waddle), and a GREAT OL, this against college teams albeit great ones.

A more realistic comparison would be Cousins. I think that Mac has a higher ceiling than Cousins, but nothing near the ceiling of Josh Allen.

 

I think that he will go earlier than expected. If fact, I predict that Belichick will draft him. GB, I predict that the Bills will win the Super Bowl, so I am all but sure that he will be gone well before we draft in round 1. What do you think?

 

 

I haven't really got deep into the QBs yet but I have watched the playoff games and been more impressed with Mack than I expected to be. I was thinking Pittsburgh might be a fit later in the first. 

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I haven't really got deep into the QBs yet but I have watched the playoff games and been more impressed with Mack than I expected to be. I was thinking Pittsburgh might be a fit later in the first. 

I would consider Pittsburgh another very possible location for Mac to wind up at.

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Smith has a feel for getting open, definitely not the most raw talent at reciever for Alabama as of late. He is the hardest worker though, which makes a difference in the NFL.

 

I'm a lifelong Bama fan so maybe I'm discounting some of his talent. Though I wouldn't have any worries of him flaming out for lack of effort.

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