Thurman#1 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: Hi, I appreciate your effort, but not sure what is your point. Everybody knows it is a team sport, I for sure know it. It is just fun. But to make you happy, I will edit OP. Appreciate your kindness. As to my point, it's just the obvious. QBs aren't responsible for wins or losses. Teams are. Was Rob Johnson responsible for the loss in the Music City Miscarriage of Justice? Is a QB whose team wins 7 - 0 with the score coming on a pick-six responsible for the win? No. Everyone is. Even when the QB plays lights out, he doesn't get the win. If his OL hadn't blocked well, if his receivers hadn't got open and made the catches, if his defense hadn't held the other team to that amount of points and if the STs hadn't done a great job (as the Bills STs have this year), he doesn't get the win. And yet over and over again people want to use this stat to show things about the QB. Doesn't make sense in any way. If you want to show things about Allen, look at how well he himself played. Nobody should say something like, "last second kick, it's a 35 yarder for the Fins, and the Bills line up to block it, an LBs sneaks through the line, it's blocked ... and Josh Allen wins the game, conclusively proving Josh Allen is a winner." That's what you do when you use wins as a QB stat. It really is that simple. Wins is NOT a QB stat. It is a team stat. The QB is part of the team, so he gets his share of the credit/blame, but no more. In any case, again, thanks for your consideration and kindness. It is greatly appreciated. Edited January 3, 2021 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 OP updated after beating Colts. 19 in the pocket, 12 more to go! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 OP updated after beating Ravens. It seems that after I started this Josh is determined to add on the list He'll get another chance on Sunday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/1/2021 at 1:09 PM, whatdrought said: Let’s get the Colts, Ravens, Cheifs, and Packers. Let’s go!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/1/2021 at 7:09 PM, whatdrought said: Let’s get the Colts, Ravens, Cheifs, and Packers. Haha great call before the Dolphins game. 2 more to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimtoga Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 He can get up to 26 this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, swimtoga said: He can get up to 26 this season? That would be a crazy high number this early in his career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 On 1/1/2021 at 12:57 PM, No_Matter_What said: Quarterbacks who have beaten all 32 teams: Manning, Favre, Brees Quarterbacks who have beaten 31 teams: Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Alex Smith, Kerry Collins Notable young QBs: Mahomes 23, Jackson 22 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/friv/qb-wins.htm Kerry Collins?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimtoga Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 44 minutes ago, fergie's ire said: Kerry Collins?! I thought the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, swimtoga said: I thought the same thing. He played in an NFC Championship and a Super Bowl. He was on some decent teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimtoga Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: He played in an NFC Championship and a Super Bowl. He was on some decent teams True, he had good seasons with Carolina and The East Rutherford Short Stacks but I never in a million years would have guessed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 On 1/1/2021 at 5:56 PM, Bray Wyatt said: Isn’t josh 1-2 against the titans? Lost his rookie year, beat them last year and lost this year ***** nvm I was thinking Texans rookie year not titans no he has betten the Titans twice. before last year he beaten the Titans twice in a row Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Isn’t football a team game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 3 hours ago, swimtoga said: He can get up to 26 this season? Thanks for the bump, I updated OP. I expect 24 after regular season, hopefully more. I'd save Chiefs for playoffs 5 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Isn’t football a team game? I addressed this in OP. I know it is a team sport. This is just for fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: Isn’t football a team game? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) Updated OP after Texans win. Onto Chiefs! What I find interesting is that Lamar is already at 25 after beating Lions and Chiefs this year and on his road to 26 if Ravens beat Broncos today. Edited October 3, 2021 by No_Matter_What 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimtoga Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 #22 this weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, swimtoga said: #22 this weekend! A man can hope. Lamar at 26 already Mahomes at 24. And after beating Patriots last week Brady become 4th QB in history to beat all teams Edited October 9, 2021 by No_Matter_What 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimtoga Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 When it’s all said and done Josh will be the GOAT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 And there we go! At 22 after beating Chiefs. The only unbeaten team in AFC are now Browns. Next up - whole NFC South starting with Saints week 12 on Thanksgiving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 Updated after Saints win. Up next - Tampa in 2 weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 Updated after Panthers and Falcons wins. Might get shot on 26th if we get to the SB (Bucs, Packers, Cards or Eagles). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Sort of relevant to this topic, and not sure if this was mentioned in another thread after doing a cursory search here, but it was mentioned last night on the SXM live stream that the win at Los Angeles last night was Josh's first NFL win in his home state of California. The Bills did beat the 49ers on the road in 2020, but that was in Arizona, not San Francisco, due to COVID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) Yes!!! The Bills have won a one-score game, and this is the first time Josh has been the QB when the Bills beat Baltimore in the regular season. Edited October 2, 2022 by chongli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, chongli said: Yes!!! The Bills have won a one-score game, and this is the first time Josh has been the QB when the Bills beat Baltimore in the regeular season. But they ***** up and blew the more important double-digit win streak stat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 10:12 PM, chongli said: Yes!!! The Bills have won a one-score game, and this is the first time Josh has been the QB when the Bills beat Baltimore in the regular season. Good catch and bump Updated after Ravens game. Still 6 to go overall or 7 if we talk regular season wins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 4:23 PM, Freddie's Dead said: But they ***** up and blew the more important double-digit win streak stat. Frankly I am out raged. McD purposely held our offense back just so he can add a 1 score game to his win column. We need to run this guy out of town. Starting a gofund me for a billboard. I'll drop a link after its made. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Buffalo wins vs. Green Bay for the first time with Josh Allen as QB! McD is 6-0 after a bye week and Green Bay fails to pass Chicago for most all-time franchise wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 And there it is - updated after Packes win. Next - Browns in W11. The last team to beat in AFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 This list is wrong. We beat ourselves when we lost to the Jaguars last year. Add Buffalo to the list. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 1/1/2021 at 9:57 AM, No_Matter_What said: Quarterbacks who have beaten all 32 teams: Manning, Favre, Brees, Brady Quarterbacks who have beaten 31 teams: Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Alex Smith, Kerry Collins Notable young QBs: Mahomes 28 (needs Vikings, Rams, Seahawks), Jackson 27 (needs Panthers, Bears, Packers, Saints). Sigh... the Ravens just got their 28th win with Lamar as QB and now he is tied with Mahommes, Cousins, and Tannehill for eighth place among currently-active QB's. Josh has 26 and is tied for 12th place with Jared Goff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 Updated after Browns win. They were last AFC team to go. Next up - Bears in week 16, and then Eagles/Bucs in SB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Updated after Browns win. They were last AFC team to go. Next up - Bears in week 16, and then Eagles/Bucs in SB Thanks for doing this. I think Josh is still 0-2 vs. DeShaun Watson though. Would've been nice to play against him today, but maybe not after this rough week for the Bills. 28 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Updated after Browns win. They were last AFC team to go. Next up - Bears in week 16, and then Eagles/Bucs in SB Wait...Jackson just beat Carolina today too. Edited November 20, 2022 by chongli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, chongli said: Thanks for doing this. I think Josh is still 0-2 vs. DeShaun Watson though. Would've been nice to play against him today, but maybe not after this rough week for the Bills. Wait...Jackson just beat Carolina today too. Thantks for cacthing Jacskon. Edited. Not sure if I understand your first point about Watson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Thantks for cacthing Jacskon. Edited. Not sure if I understand your first point about Watson. Thanks again. I meant whenever Josh has faced Watson, it's always been a loss. Would've have been nice for him to finally beat him head-to-head, but he is still suspended for another week. Edited November 21, 2022 by chongli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, chongli said: Thanks again. I meant whenever Josh has faced Watson, it's always been a loss. Would've have been nice for him to finally beat him head-to-head, but he is still suspended for another week. Hey, there’s about a 0.5% chance we face the Browns again in the playoffs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 On 1/1/2021 at 9:57 AM, No_Matter_What said: Quarterbacks who have beaten all 32 teams: Manning, Favre, Brees, Brady Quarterbacks who have beaten 31 teams: Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Alex Smith, Kerry Collins Notable young QBs: Jackson 29 (needs Bears and Packers), Mahomes 28 (needs Vikings, Rams, Seahawks). https://www.pro-football-reference.com/friv/qb-wins.htm Just a quick note: Mahomes beat the Rams in Week 12. Also, Joe Montana and Fran Tarkenton beat all 28 teams with no teams left when they retired. (Expansion to 30 teams did not occur until 1995, the year after Montana retired). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, chongli said: Just a quick note: Mahomes beat the Rams in Week 12. Also, Joe Montana and Fran Tarkenton beat all 28 teams with no teams left when they retired. (Expansion to 30 teams did not occur until 1995, the year after Montana retired). I would of thought you were bumping this because he hasn't beaten the Bears yet. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I would of thought you were bumping this because he hasn't beaten the Bears yet. Patience my friend! 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 On 10/31/2022 at 2:42 PM, ArtVandalay said: This list is wrong. We beat ourselves when we lost to the Jaguars last year. Add Buffalo to the list. That's just Josh making sure he beats all 32 nfl teams while still only playing as a Bill before he retires to Deez Nuts he and his family will grow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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