mjd1001 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I'm fine with it, as long as the rules are the same for all teams, go ahead and end them. Get down to 1 or 2 preseason games, and shorten regular camp one week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 How do rookies, free agents etc just come in a succeed unless you have workouts in May and June? Then start preseason in early August with only 2 Preseason games. How soon everyone forgets all the chatter and injuries early in the season and many assumptions it was due to lack of workouts and preseason contact. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I am cool with it too...honestly he is right. There was very little dropoff and rookies managed to integrate pretty well overall. 2 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: How do rookies, free agents etc just come in a succeed unless you have workouts in May and June? Then start preseason in early August with only 2 Preseason games. How soon everyone forgets all the chatter and injuries early in the season and many assumptions it was due to lack of workouts and preseason contact. I dunno...maybe ask Justin Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 48 minutes ago, StHustle said: NFLPA President JC Tretter thinks the quality of play hasn't been affected enough to justify ever having minicamps or OTAs ever again. He thinks it's not worth the extra wear and tear on players' bodies. I never considered these non contact events as being of the wear and tear variety and would rather not see them go. However, I can see both sides of the argument and definitely can't complain about how not having OTAs and minicamps have affected this season considering the Bills are having their best year since the Glory Days. Your thoughts? https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30629360/nflpa-president-jc-tretter-seeks-end-minicamps-otas Less work hours equals less pay if I’m an owner, of course this is just the beginning of the 17/18 game season negotiations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, StHustle said: NFLPA President JC Tretter thinks the quality of play hasn't been affected enough to justify ever having minicamps or OTAs ever again. He thinks it's not worth the extra wear and tear on players' bodies. I never considered these non contact events as being of the wear and tear variety and would rather not see them go. However, I can see both sides of the argument and definitely can't complain about how not having OTAs and minicamps have affected this season considering the Bills are having their best year since the Glory Days. Your thoughts? https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30629360/nflpa-president-jc-tretter-seeks-end-minicamps-otas Well just as whenever the owners want to change something, they have to give the players back something in return; this is the owners turn if it were to go forward! Can anybody spell 18 game schedule! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just get rid of the mandatory aspect. Teams will continue to schedule them or even more When contracts and starting spots go to players that show up to work, the players Association just did the exact opposite of what they are trying to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Gee why don't they just play all the games Virtually ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Great idea. Maybe he can bring it up in 2030.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) I am good with getting rid of the OTAs and Mini Camps. I am also good with getting rid of the Preseason. Get me 18 real games. With expanded rosters. keep Training camp. And maybe Rookie camp after draft. Edited December 31, 2020 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 The NFLPA is going to need a giveback to add that 17th game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 32 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I am good with getting rid of the OTAs and Mini Camps. I am also good with getting rid of the Preseason. Get me 18 real games. With expanded rosters. keep Training camp. And maybe Rookie camp after draft. Not to nitpick, but rookie camp is a minicamp. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: I am cool with it too...honestly he is right. There was very little dropoff and rookies managed to integrate pretty well overall. I dunno...maybe ask Justin Jefferson Since every rookie is a first round pick. You make a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Since every rookie is a first round pick. You make a good point. OK...ask Gabe Davis then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, Back the Blue said: Not to nitpick, but rookie camp is a minicamp. 😉 Yeah I am good with that being cancelled too. Though I think the PA would allow that one so Rookies have a little time getting acclimated before Training Camp. Remember the PA has in the past not cared about rookies (rookie salary cap) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mc1320 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Coaches are definitely not going to be down with this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I’m torn. What about the fans who take their kids to the camps to see their heroes. The families who can’t afford to go to games. This is their only experience to be up close and personal to the players. To get the autographs and photos. To memorialize and share with children and grandchildren. I get the fact that they want less wear and tear on their bodies but think about the people that helps pay their salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Wrong. Sounds like a union doing what unions do: reduce the workload. OTAs and minicamps are part of the process. They are meaningful to developing players. For goodness sake, they are non-contact. But they do get players mastery over the upcoming playbook. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I disagree on not having a post draft mini camp. There is a lot of benefit to that with the new drsfted players and new firer agrnts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Cancel all the preseason games. Keep the OTA's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Big Turk said: OK...ask Gabe Davis then. he wasn’t ready week one. And imagine how much better he’d be now. Also less penalties this year because of less holding being called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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