Victory Formation Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Cool that we have fixed the leagues worst Run Defense to get to middle of the pack in a couple weeks. Nice. Seems like a nice endorsement for the DL Coach, DC and others. Well.. I’m not going to sit here and argue with you.. Leslie Frazier will not be a HC any time soon. Should probably focus on being a good DC first.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 4 hours ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said: https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/12/14/monday-afternoon-quarterback-revisiting-stefon-diggs-trade It's very possible we lose both coordinators to head coaching opportunities after the season. A long as the trade off is one of these below, I'm good with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 There's more than supporting diversity in the NFL by Pegs advocating Leslie Frazier. In terms of PR, pushing Frazier = support the "making Buffalo a destination for coaches and players" angle Unconditional support to players and coaches = is noticed around the league Reputation around the league = interest from more candidates and free agents If 2Pegs play this and other moves right, Buffalo could be a desired destination for years and years. They can pick the Creme de la Creme of coaches and players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Well.. I’m not going to sit here and argue with you.. Leslie Frazier will not be a HC any time soon. Should probably focus on being a good DC first.. He is a good DC. Okay he works under a great defensive mind in McDermott but he has been very good in Buffalo. What I love about Leslie is he isn't wedded to a scheme. He will do what works. I have heard him described as a 46 guy cos he played for Buddy, a cover 3 guy cos he was a Jim Johnson coach and a tampa 2 guy cos he worked with Dungy. There are bits of all 3 in the Bills defense. The front they played at San Fran the week before last was right out of the Buddy Ryan playbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 What’s Wade up to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) If the Pegula’s feel so strongly about minority HC’s, why did they hire McD...and Rex before him? Sorry...nothing but lip service on their part. Edited December 15, 2020 by Back the Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 If the Bills want to keep Daboll, just keep winning. Ironically, playoff team coaches are at a disadvantage when it comes to hiring. All that will be left are the sloppy seconds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Limeaid said: This is how Bills seem to get their players for better or for worse. Worse: Zay Jones was picked on recommendation from new WR coach who was his college WR coach. WR coach canned after one year. Great: Bills had hired LB coach Bobby Babich who saw Jordan Poyer as a player with untapped potential. Jordan has signed 2nd contract. This is often how people get hired/get opportunities in general, let alone in football. It’s a life thing not a Bills thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 7 hours ago, RyanC883 said: I don't think either of our coordinator's get taken this year. Too many other options: Bineiemy, Butler (Steelers, DC)--who seems to get no love from the national media for a HC position, despite having a great D; Saleh; Roman; McDaniels; Stefanski; Toub; just to name a few. I thought Stefanski already was a head coach. Unless there is another one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 All the coordinators McD & Beane have picked are top of the line people first and top NFL coordinators that have proved they are worthy of being given a shot at a better job opportunity although i would hate to see Dabo; or Frazier go i think after this season its gonna happen to at least 1 of the 2 . I wonder if McD being smarter than Rex would tell the a new coordinator if it ain't broke don't fix it and tell them to utilize some of the schemes they have been for the familiarity of it I hope & don't think he would just let them go rogue and change the schemes completely like Rex tried to . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I am not sure I see that happening. Daboll is gone if he wants a HC job I think he gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 He aint pushing Daboll tho. lol Might want to open the checkbook and give him a nice little raise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, T master said: All the coordinators McD & Beane have picked are top of the line people first and top NFL coordinators that have proved they are worthy of being given a shot at a better job opportunity although i would hate to see Dabo; or Frazier go i think after this season its gonna happen to at least 1 of the 2 . I wonder if McD being smarter than Rex would tell the a new coordinator if it ain't broke don't fix it and tell them to utilize some of the schemes they have been for the familiarity of it I hope & don't think he would just let them go rogue and change the schemes completely like Rex tried to . Hopefully Coach McD learned from his first year as head coach and defacto GM where he just dumped staff and then signed new Coaches, Coordinators and Scouts many who lasted a year. He kept 1 coach and t Rick Dennison - advocated starting P5t5rman David Culley - not qualified as QB coach Phil McGeoghan - advocate for Zay Jones who he coached at Eastern Carolina Gill Byrd - Back coaching in college Juan Castillo - Lasted longer than many 2 years This shows IMO that Coach McD does not do what you wonder about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) Best case scenario is Frazier gets signed as HC somewhere, Bills get draft picks, Dabol stays and is promoted to assistant HC...👍 Edited December 16, 2020 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Hopefully Coach McD learned from his first year as head coach and defacto GM where he just dumped staff and then signed new Coaches, Coordinators and Scouts many who lasted a year. He kept 1 coach and t Rick Dennison - advocated starting P5t5rman David Culley - not qualified as QB coach Phil McGeoghan - advocate for Zay Jones who he coached at Eastern Carolina Gill Byrd - Back coaching in college Juan Castillo - Lasted longer than many 2 years This shows IMO that Coach McD does not do what you wonder about. Building the first staff is the hardest part. It gets easier as you go because people see it as a stable opportunity. McDermott is safe as houses here. Come work for him and do a good job you ain't moving your family for at least a few years. Not uncommon for first time Head Coaches to move on from a few of their first hires after 1 year. Flores did it last offseason too. You can't get everyone you want some are under contract, you are not yet established etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I wonder if their will be a trend in the coming years for a HC with good leadership/people skills to be preferred over the next great young hotshot OC/DC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 41 minutes ago, Back the Blue said: I wonder if their will be a trend in the coming years for a HC with good leadership/people skills to be preferred over the next great young hotshot OC/DC? One would hope so. I have always felt leadership should be the number 1 quality teams look for. Great if they are an exceptional developer of players or Xs and Os guy or game day decision maker... but if they are not a good leader they will fail fast. You look at the guys with longevity in this league they all have that quality. Some are great Xs and Os guys some are not. Some are great player developers some are not but all are excellent leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) On 12/15/2020 at 10:50 AM, Kelsayrundefense said: I wouldn't hire Leslie as a HC. He's a nice DC but not the head guy IMO. Kinda like Chan. Brilliant OC and play caller, but not so much as a HC. I still wonder if McDermott isn't calling the plays on defense in this later part of the season. Edited December 17, 2020 by GreggTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, GreggTX said: Kinda like Chan. Brilliant OC and play caller, but not so much as a HC. I still wonder if McDermott isn't calling the plays on defense in this later part of the season. He isn't. Leslie is calling the plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Funny how so many people are questioning this news, ignoring the fact that white retreads like Gase and McCarthy keep getting more chances to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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