NewEra 6,723 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: But Lamar is not just another running Quarterback. It was my point in this thread and it remains my point to this day. Comparing him to Kaepernick or Tyrod or Tim Tebow or whoever else is asinine. The only guy who is close to comparable as an athlete at the Quarterback position is Michael Vick who before the age of 32 went 58-37 as an NFL starting Quarterback and that was missing two prime years through suspension. It was also in an era where NFL teams tried to force guys like Vick to fit into the prototype in a way Baltimore is not forcing on Lamar. I accept there is likely a ceiling with Lamar Jackson's style of play. I didn't want him here in Buffalo but if people think he is just gonna get figured out and disappear some time soon cos that is what happened to Kaepernick they are barking up entirely the wrong tree. This kid is one of the best athletes to ever play in the NFL and even this year when everything he can do was surely on tape he ran for 1,000 yards and 7 scores, threw 26 passes to 9 picks and helped his team win 11 games. He might not last the way Brady or Brees have... but for the next 7 or 8 years? Yea, he is gonna be a problem for teams to defend. This. Thanks for saving me the time. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ColoradoBills 5,516 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 50 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: The thread that will not die. I feel like Roman Castavet. I'm kind of hoping your thread becomes prophetic this Saturday night and Lamar is saying............... 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewEra 6,723 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 17 minutes ago, BillsToast said: For several reasons: 1. Reid was his coach 2. His passes were significantly more accurate in Reid's system 3. He didn't play for a couple of years In other words you can't compare them unless you want to sit Jackson for 2 years and hope he makes it to 30 and Vick was out for most of the season when he was younger from injury. And you also can’t compare Lamar Jackson to any other running qb not named Michael Vick. Not one of them could run like them. They are on another level as a runner. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Penfield45 1,226 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 This has to be the dumbest thread ever created in this forum someone plz delete this garbage 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Green Lightning 1,256 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 19 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: This has to be the dumbest thread ever created in this forum someone plz delete this garbage Perfect cancel culture. Don't like another opinion, delete it. How about not agreeing and moving on and not decide what others can read or think. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
prissythecat 760 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 23 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: This has to be the dumbest thread ever created in this forum someone plz delete this garbage Pot meet kettle? 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shaw66 7,620 Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 42 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I'm kind of hoping your thread becomes prophetic this Saturday night and Lamar is saying............... Then I will go straight to the posters' Hall of Fame! 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BillsToast 207 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 39 minutes ago, NewEra said: And you also can’t compare Lamar Jackson to any other running qb not named Michael Vick. Not one of them could run like them. They are on another level as a runner. Agreed that Lamar is a better runner and on another level, but all runners have short shelf lives, especially thinner guys. Even Vick wasn't as great of a runner when he returned. Stamina, speed, and being worn down is a reality you can't avoid with age. My point is he's generational in what he's able to do, but the human body can take only so much punishment unless you are equated his athleticism to bodily integrity. He won't be able to do what he's doing at 30 sustainably. No one has and no one could. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewEra 6,723 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Penfield45 said: This has to be the dumbest thread ever created in this forum someone plz delete this garbage BWHAHAHAHAHAHA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpsredemption 413 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 This will be a real joke Saturday night when Jackson torches us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewEra 6,723 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, BillsToast said: Agreed that Lamar is a better runner and on another level, but all runners have short shelf lives, especially thinner guys. Even Vick wasn't as great of a runner when he returned. Stamina, speed, and being worn down is a reality you can't avoid with age. My point is he's generational in what he's able to do, but the human body can take only so much punishment unless you are equated his athleticism to bodily integrity. He won't be able to do what he's doing at 30 sustainably. No one has and no one could. who like I asked before: WHO? Which running QBs are you talking about other than RG3? Tyrod? Who?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SlimShady'sSpaceForce 14,206 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Penfield45 said: This has to be the dumbest thread ever created in this forum someone plz delete this garbage TBH. No one is forcing you to read it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downunderbill 413 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 5 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: This will be a real joke Saturday night when Jackson torches us. Always so positive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScottLaw 4,710 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Burn this thread. It's made a lot of people look really bad... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pokebball 599 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Quarterbacks get injured in the pocket more than they do running. Don't they slide 99% of the time when they run? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SlimShady'sSpaceForce 14,206 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: It's made a lot of people look really bad... it serves its purpose IMO too often QBs get too much credit for success. look at Tua. The Fins almost made the playoffs BUT it was because of Fitz and not Tua. Yet people are crediting him and not Fitz. Trent Dilfer won a super bowl YET he’s not an elite HOF caliber QB. He had a good team with him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BillsToast 207 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 10 minutes ago, NewEra said: who like I asked before: WHO? Which running QBs are you talking about other than RG3? Tyrod? Who?? All of them: Vick, Cunningham, Kaep, Young and every other name. Name me one that lasted long as a runner. Name me a RB who last 8 years over 1,000 yards and you'll find only a handful and he's not built like Emmitt or Barry. If RBs struggle to do it, and only a few have and that's their only job, I highly doubt a more slender QB can last. He already has worse stats than last year in every category. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewEra 6,723 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 14 minutes ago, BillsToast said: All of them: Vick, Cunningham, Kaep, Young and every other name. Name me one that lasted long as a runner. Name me a RB who last 8 years over 1,000 yards and you'll find only a handful and he's not built like Emmitt or Barry. If RBs struggle to do it, and only a few have and that's their only job, I highly doubt a more slender QB can last. He already has worse stats than last year in every category. There you go https://sportsfinda.com/top-10-running-quarterbacks-in-nfl-history/ Most running QBs don’t last because they suck. The good running QBs last because they’re good Kaep didn’t last because he sucked young didnt last because he sucked Cunningham played like 15+ years and had his best season in his 13th year Edited January 13 by NewEra Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott7975 2,875 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 28 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: It's made a lot of people look really bad... Everyone on this forum has looked "bad" for their takes at some point. You included. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doc 10,279 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 42 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: This will be a real joke Saturday night when Jackson torches us. Like last year? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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