Warcodered 12,942 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 27 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I think it's telling that their offense looked exactly the same with Huntley in the game. I mean they don't have another offense all they could do was try and use their RBs and try and throw it. 26 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Y'know, this could just be me, but it seems in poor taste to bump this, much less sticky it, when the guy went out injured with the 4Q left to play. How about wander over to the Postgame thread and BE THRILLED THAT WE'RE GOING TO THE AFC CHAMPIONSHIP? Not trying to be mean to Lamar he's an incredible athlete but tonight highlighted the thing he has to work on the most his passing game. If Lamar wants to last long in the League he needs to at least be a good passer not average. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott7975 2,875 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I agree, but he made some mistakes that if he had executed, could have won it. Other Ravens players *cough* Mekari *cough* made mistakes. My point is: why not be thrilled that our D "cowboyed up" and we won, instead of dumping on a player who got (unfortunately, and cleanly) injured? I don't think it's so much dumping on Lamar... I can only speak for myself here but I got tired of hearing all the ball washing Lamar gets when he can't throw the football. Great... he is the most amazing runner the league has ever seen. He plays QB though. Half his TD's come on 1 yard read option flips or completely broken coverage because people are trying to contain him. He just isn't a good QB. If thats dumping then thats dumping. It's still true. Great athlete. Bad QB. I expect next season he will be even worse because we just exploited them with a defense that hasn't really played good all season. Other teams will follow suite. This is exactly why SF's dominance only last a couple years. It's exactly why Tyrod looked decent for a year. Roman is figured out and now so is Lamar. Sure, he will still beat bad defenses but more and more teams will be more and more prepared for him now. Lamar may be the greatest person on earth but all the ball washing rubbed me the wrong way. Every time I got slammed for pointing out he isn't a good QB rubbed me the wrong way. So yeah, I enjoy gloating a little after our team just shut him down. Edited January 17 by Scott7975 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 731 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 12 minutes ago, Limeaid said: He was not playing well enough to win before injury so he just avoided embarassment. He wanted out of that game.............he was getting dominated, and he made a boneheaded throw that led to a 101 yard pick 6 that effectively ended the game. I don't hate Lamar, but the idiots on TV that prop him up as a great QB are the same idiots who crap all over Josh Allen even when its obvious that Allen is 100 times the QB that Jackson will ever be(Bomani Jones, Foxworth)....I can't wait to see them come up with their excuses on Monday!!! 3 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BillsFan130 1,985 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, Special K said: He wanted out of that game.............he was getting dominated, and he made a boneheaded throw that led to a 101 yard pick 6 that effectively ended the game. I don't hate Lamar, but the idiots on TV that prop him up as a great QB are the same idiots who crap all over Josh Allen even when its obvious that Allen is 100 times the QB that Jackson will ever be(Bomani Jones, Foxworth)....I can't wait to see them come up with their excuses on Monday!!! Lamar Wanted out of that game? Come on man do you honestly believe that? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beast 5,869 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) This thread was getting bumped after this game regardless of the results on the field. This may not be a popular take but I didn’t think Jackson had a bad game......until the pick 6. The conditions were awful. Edited January 17 by Beast Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 731 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said: Lamar Wanted out of that game? Come on man do you honestly believe that? Maybe wanted is too strong a word, but I believe his spirit was broken by that point. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aceman_16 1,515 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: Lamar may be the greatest person on earth but all the ball washing rubbed me the wrong way. ^^Yep my maturity is definitely in question the way I read that and cackled like a 12 year old! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PrimeTime101 903 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 IF you can stop the run you can stop the offense. One Dimensional. Easier to do then stop a Hot Passing game. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BillsFan130 1,985 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, Special K said: Maybe wanted is too strong a word, but I believe his spirit was broken by that point. I’ll respectfully disagree. Hes a competitor and a great football player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 731 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said: I’ll respectfully disagree. Hes a competitor and a great football player I noticed you didn't say quarterback, because he certainly isn't great at that!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BillsFan130 1,985 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Special K said: I noticed you didn't say quarterback, because he certainly isn't great at that!! .... reigning mvp man... you’re right, he sucks.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Frankish Reich 1,681 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, PrimeTime101 said: IF you can stop the run you can stop the offense. One Dimensional. Easier to do then stop a Hot Passing game. Well, I'll take the win - as Josh said, there's no style points in the playoffs - but I don't think this game tells us a whole lot about offensive football theory in general. The Ravens lost because of one horrid snap and one really good defensive play by Taron Johnson. OK, you can pin part of that one on Lamar, but it was still really well done by Taron. These are two really good football teams, and very often a play or two will be the difference. Just like it was tonight. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave mcbride 3,522 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 7 minutes ago, Special K said: Maybe wanted is too strong a word, but I believe his spirit was broken by that point. He didn’t play well, but my god his center was a disaster. Got him injured too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LeGOATski 3,992 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, BillsFan130 said: .... reigning mvp man... you’re right, he sucks.. On his running merits. TDs notwithstanding. He's not a complete QB and many here have been saying this for a while. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H2o 9,422 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) Jackson is a quality young man, who is an amazing athlete, and enjoyed a lot of success. He's still only 24. He's going to have to get better reading defenses and as a QB in general though before he will go any further. You shut him down running and he crumbles. It's been this way for years now. I actually think Roman may be more of a hindrance in the long run if they want to actually develop Lamar. Edited January 17 by H2o Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BillsFan130 1,985 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) 3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: On his running merits. TDs notwithstanding. He's not a complete QB and many here have been saying this for a while. He’s a very good young player. He’s got flaws, (like most young players) but he’s a top 10 QB in this league and is under 25 years of age. Edited January 17 by BillsFan130 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 731 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: .... reigning mvp man... you’re right, he sucks.. Do you really think he will ever win MVP again?? That year it was a gimmick offense that had not been figured out yet....the Bills certainly figured out how to stop him today, and I'm sure the 30 other teams will be watching the film of this game and by next year all teams will have his number. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doc 10,279 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 9 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Honestly Idk if the ravens will pay him the big bucks. Maybe some other team will overpay for him. He’s a one truck pony at QB. I think the NFL has figured him out and he didn’t adjust his game this season The Ravens are in a tough spot and I don't envy them at all. Do they pay $40M/year when he's more of a runner than QB and needs a great defense to succeed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BillsFan130 1,985 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Special K said: Do you really think he will ever win MVP again?? That year it was a gimmick offense that had not been figured out yet....the Bills certainly figured out how to stop him today, and I'm sure the 30 other teams will be watching the film of this game and by next year all teams will have his number. possible he wins another one. Bills figured out how to stop him hmm. Not like the huge wind had anything to do with that? Did you not notice that Allen wasn’t on his A game tonight? .. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HappyDays 10,702 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 23 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: My point is: why not be thrilled that our D "cowboyed up" and we won, instead of dumping on a player who got (unfortunately, and cleanly) injured? I'm not trying to dump on him. I'm just saying it is looking more and more like his style cannot carry you further than a participation trophy in the playoffs. Elite athleticism only gets you so far. Eventually you have to sit back and read the field and beat the coverage with your throw. He can't do it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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