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Allen 2020 stats (ALL 19 Games): 68.4% comp, 7.7 YPA, 104.9 Passer Rating, 52 TDs, 17 TOs (offseason talk starts pg 35)


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4 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

THEY PLAYED THE JESTS 🙄. They aren't good. Josh Allen had regressed since 4-0. Watching the Chiefs and the Bucs play shows how far the Bills are from their class. 

 

Why are you so angry about a win?

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1 minute ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

Why are you so angry about a win?

If they were a good team they would have covered the spread and been the dominant team many want them to be. Maybe Bills fans should start watching games outside of the Bills and see what  good teams look like. I look at what the Bucs and The Chiefs did today. The Bills wish they were in the same league. 

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1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said:

If they were a good team they would have covered the spread and been the dominant team many want them to be. Maybe Bills fans should start watching games outside of the Bills and see what  good teams look like. I look at what the Bucs and The Chiefs did today. The Bills wish they were in the same league. 

 

Something tells me you're not a Bills fan then

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3 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

Something tells me you're not a Bills fan then

Sorry but it doesn't take 4 years to turn a season around. Winning the division isn't enough. I expect them to be on the same level as the best teams in the league at this point. 

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1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said:

Sorry but it doesn't take 4 years to turn a season around. Winning the division isn't enough. I expect them to be on the same level as the best teams in the league at this point. 

 

So, you'll never be satisfied because you'll keep moving the goalposts. Got it. 

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6 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

So, you'll never be satisfied because you'll keep moving the goalposts. Got it. 

Look at Arizona. In one year they are battling for the division, same with Miami. Bills fans seem to set the bar low. 

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Just now, HappyDays said:

 

Arizona is battling for the division? Someone might want to let Kyler Murray know.

They are 4-2 and tired for first. I get it Dem Bills have been mediocre for so long winning the division is an accomplishment.  

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1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said:

Look at Arizona. In one year they are battling for the division, same with Miami. Bills fans seem to set the bar low. 

 

 

Ummmm, have you looked at the AFCE standings since Brady left? 

 

I get it if you don’t think it came fast enough, but after a 17 year playoff drought it looks like we are in the mix 3 out of 4 years. I like our trajectory. I suspect it’s better than the employment record for most of the people posting here. 

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Just now, Augie said:

 

 

Ummmm, have you looked at the AFCE standings since Brady left? 

 

I get it if you don’t think it came fast enough, but after a 17 year playoff drought it looks like we are in the mix 3 out of 4 years. I like our trajectory. I suspect it’s better than the employment record for most of the people posting here. 

Til they win a playoff game I will believe they are improved. Right now with that defense they aren't going far. 

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

They're tied for 1st? Someone should let the Seahawks know.

 

You realize the Bills are actually in 1st, right? This is a really weird take from top to bottom.

One team did it in one season while the other might win by default.   I get older fans have HOMER running through their veins. I'm not impressed til they win a playoff game. 

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4 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

They are 4-2 and tired for first. I get it Dem Bills have been mediocre for so long winning the division is an accomplishment.  

 

Let's watch how the season plays out.  The Bills were "battling for first in the division" in 2018-2019 too.  Then the Pats kicked our teeth in.

If Arizona loses tonight, they will be 2.5 games out of 1st place and will have lost 3 out of 4.

 

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3 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

One team did it in one season while the other might win by default.   I get older fans have HOMER running through their veins. I'm not impressed til they win a playoff game. 

 

You're having some trouble keeping up with your own arguments here. How about you check the NFC East standings and get back to me.

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1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said:

Til they win a playoff game I will believe they are improved. Right now with that defense they aren't going far. 

 

I hope you are the employee of the week, month and year every damn time!  

 

I have concerns, as I’m sure all of us do, but I’m not whining at 5-2. Beat the Cheaters*, get to 6-2!  I’m all good with that! 

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2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

It’s ok to call it for what is it

 

moronic

Let me guess you're a fan of the Bills from the ancient days. So any improvement is good enough. Sorry but with the parity in the NFL its not hard to win in this league like many seem to believe. 

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2 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

Let me guess you're a fan of the Bills from the ancient days. So any improvement is good enough. Sorry but with the parity in the NFL its not hard to win in this league like many seem to believe. 

Tell me more about how the Cardinals are tied for first in their division 

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5 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

Let me guess you're a fan of the Bills from the ancient days. So any improvement is good enough. Sorry but with the parity in the NFL its not hard to win in this league like many seem to believe. 

 

Let me guess, you are younger and expect immediate gratification. 

 

I like what we are building, and I am mature enough to appreciate progress and first place in the AFCE.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Tell me more about how the Cardinals are tied for first in their division 

Y"all are just like @JoefromWinslow. Just happy with a win. Doesn't matter if they barely beat the lowly Jests. 🙄

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36 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

THEY PLAYED THE JESTS 🙄. They aren't good. Josh Allen had regressed since 4-0. Watching the Chiefs and the Bucs play shows how far the Bills are from their class. 

 

I don't believe Josh Allen has regressed.

 

Defenses have adjusted to take away the deep ball.  Against the Titans and Chiefs, he wasn't patient enough to take the check-downs and struggled.  That changed today, and he began taking what the defense gave him.  Although we couldn't punch it in the endzone, the offense moved the ball on every drive and didn't even punt once.  Overall, he played very well.

 

Just because Allen has "broken out" doesn't mean he's a finished product, or that he's stopped developing.  Today was greatly encouraging, because the Jets tried to do the same thing he was struggling with for two weeks... and he was able to overcome it and play very well.  If he continues to show patience and willingness to pick teams apart, those deep throws will eventually start opening up again.

 

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2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Let me guess, you are younger and expect immediate gratification. 

 

I like what we are building, and I am mature enough to appreciate progress and first place in the AFCE.

 

 

 

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No I have seen teams turn it around quickly. Look at the Bucs. 

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15 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

 

Let's watch how the season plays out.  The Bills were "battling for first in the division" in 2018-2019 too.  Then the Pats kicked our teeth in.

If Arizona loses tonight, they will be 2.5 games out of 1st place and will have lost 3 out of 4.

 

The Bills can take the Cardinals don’t let the fact Kyler Murray lit up the Dallas Cowboys which everyone does now if you haven’t noticed 

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1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said:

No I have seen teams turn it around quickly. Look at the Bucs. 

 

The Buccs have turned it around quickly? The same Buccs who have the 2nd longest active post season drought at 13 years? 

 

Doesn't sound awfully quick.

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27 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

Look at Arizona. In one year they are battling for the division, same with Miami. Bills fans seem to set the bar low. 

 

Dude I know your type. You'll never be happy because for some reason you enjoy being miserable no matter what the Bills do. 

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6 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

No I have seen teams turn it around quickly. Look at the Bucs. 

 

Who already had a great team, awesome defense and weapons, that just was not good enough to overcome Jamies and his 35+/- turnovers. Now they have the GOAT taking care of the ball.  You will have to do better. Please, do better. 

5 minutes ago, TroutDog said:

My Lord: lots of troll feeding in this thread!!!!!!!! 

 

My bad......you’re right. 

 

 

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Allen has over 2,000 yards with 16 TDs and 4 INTs over 7 games, plus 3 rushing TDs.  I'm not going to freak out that the first 4 games were better than the next 3.  I'm going to remember what it was like watching Trent Edwards, Kyle Orton, Tyrod Taylor and Nathan Peterman and be happy that Sundays are worth looking forward to for more than just being a day off work.

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2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

There were rough patches in this game for sure, but at a certain point it looked like a light bulb came on in terms of playing against the zone defense, which is how it seems opposing Ds will play us from now on.

 

I really think we miss John Brown in this offense.

 

Patriots, Seahawks and Cardinals in a tough 3 game stretch before our bye.

Take what they give you, eh? Brown being out does hurt the offense.  Nice to see the RBs more involved today.

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2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

This is not scientific at all but I look for flushed cheeks 

 

If Allen looks normal, game on. When his face gets red I get worried 

 

I think this game was the most emotionally under control I've ever seen Josh and it's no coincidence that he was taking every 5-9 yard gain that the defense was surrendering.

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