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I never clicked on the link but did King predict that Tua would take over and that's the reason for his prediction?  Because again, Fitz has never taken a team to the playoffs and only once did he lead a team to a winning record...only to choke in the season finale that would have sent his team (Jets, 2015, against the Bills) to the playoffs if they had won.

 

As for Tua, I can't see him starting unless Fitz gets injured or they start poorly and are out of it early, like last year.  I don't think he's shown he's ready and sitting on the bench won't help him much in that regard.  At best I can see him playing in the season finale like Mahomes did.  Which again leads up back to Fitz and what he can't do.

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Dolphins beat us last year if Tre White doesn't save the day with an amazing INT on the goal line.

 

The Bills won a lot of close games vs bad teams last year. They have a much more difficult schedule. I don't know what to expect. 

 

Dolphins and Bills have improved their rosters. Jets also played us tough, should've lost the opener. Bills were not a dominant team last year, very beatable almost every week. Josh Allen will have to be much better.

 

Saying the Dolphins win the East isn't that crazy. I think Dolphins, Patriots, and Bills will all finish around 9 wins.

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Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Dolphins beat us last year if Tre White doesn't save the day with an amazing INT on the goal line.

 

The Bills won a lot of close games vs bad teams last year. They have a much more difficult schedule. I don't know what to expect. 

 

Dolphins and Bills have improved their rosters. Jets also played us tough, should've lost the opener. Bills were not a dominant team last year, very beatable almost every week. Josh Allen will have to be much better.

 

Saying the Dolphins win the East isn't that crazy. I think Dolph, Patriots, and Bills will all finish around 9 wins.

Everyone seems to look past the ridiculous cake walk of a schedule last season.... and McDs awful record against winning teams to this point.

 

This year is really going to tell a lot.

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Hmm, well, I think he's seriously overestimating Miami there, but it's not impossible. And I don't have a problem with people predicting the future going a bit out in left field on a few teams. If there's one thing we know it's that two to four teams will be a lot better than most people think and two to four teams a lot worse. That's football.

 

He has the Bills in the playoff competitors. 

 

If people don't throw something a bit different out there then everybody just parrots the common wisdom and says nearly the same thing.

 

Maybe King will even be right about the Fins, though I doubt it.

9 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

They’ve gone 7-9 two years in a row. 

 

 

... with a lot of crucial injuries at spots where their depth was poor. Atlanta could easily be very good, IMO. In fact, that's my guess.

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I’m a little disappointed in King as I’ve always respected his opinions.  I may not always agree with him, but he had very measured opinions.  I’ve said before the schedule means we are not going to have the easy schedule we had last year, but we’re better.  Yesterday ,  I was listening to Movin the Chains, and Kirwan tagged the Bills winning the division at 10-6, the Pats in a WC at 10-6, and the Phins at 6-10.  He said it’s just too early with this COVID off season for the Fish to convert all the talent they have acquired and turn it into a winning team.  I agree with this take.  Not sure how the Pats will make 10-6, but it’s hard to get Down on a BB team.  I see the Pats more 8-8.

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8 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Everyone seems to look past the ridiculous cake walk of a schedule last season.... and McDs awful record against winning teams to this point.

 

This year is really going to tell a lot.

Correct, But the addition of a talent like Diggs should automatically improve Josh Allen and McDermott's ability to win games against good teams.  If this team starts improving in key areas like  3rd down conversions,   redzone conversions and playing more up-tempo game, they can beat the good teams in the league. 

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8 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Everyone seems to look past the ridiculous cake walk of a schedule last season.... and McDs awful record against winning teams to this point.

 

This year is really going to tell a lot.

This is an almost completely invalid point when discussing winning the division.  We'll play Tenn and Pitt where the other teams play Bal, Cin, Cle, Ind, Jax, Hou.  That's the entire difference when it comes to winning the division.

 

Your instant spin of negativity doesn't turn irrelevant data points into meaningful considerations.

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8 hours ago, Doc said:

I never clicked on the link but did King predict that Tua would take over and that's the reason for his prediction?  Because again, Fitz has never taken a team to the playoffs and only once did he lead a team to a winning record...only to choke in the season finale that would have sent his team (Jets, 2015, against the Bills) to the playoffs if they had won.

 

As for Tua, I can't see him starting unless Fitz gets injured or they start poorly and are out of it early, like last year.  I don't think he's shown he's ready and sitting on the bench won't help him much in that regard.  At best I can see him playing in the season finale like Mahomes did.  Which again leads up back to Fitz and what he can't do.

 

The easiest way to wreck Tua is to throw him out there before he's ready.

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13 hours ago, njbuff said:

Wow, a lot people seem to care about someone's opinion that means absolutely nothing.

 

To be fair, you've just summed up the entire Two Bills Drive message board (not that you're wrong).

 

 

On another note, while I obviously don't agree with King - as a fan base we need to keep our lenses in check. Remember, this is a team that got stronger and better as the season went on, which means Flores did his job and is probably getting better at it. They also did have an infusion of talent and when you combine coaching and talent, there is at least the potential for good things to happen. That doesn't mean I agree with King or that I would say the Bills won't win the division, but I do know that all too often teams get cocky and then the fans dismiss other teams who make the leap of surprising the league. Do I think it's the Dolphins? No. I think they're an 8 win team. Do I think's impossible for the Dolphins to win 10 games? Also no. I think there is just so much that could go well and so much that could go wrong. 

 

Either way, my point is while I don't agree with King - it's not ludicrous to be conservative and humble and remember nothing in the NFL is guaranteed and it rarely goes as expected. Head down, work hard, and love the game. Bills do that, and I think they win the Division and 11 games or more. I also think, IF the Bills 11 games or more, then they've probably beaten a couple of quality playoff teams and that means, the sky's the limit. 

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9 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Everyone seems to look past the ridiculous cake walk of a schedule last season.... and McDs awful record against winning teams to this point.

 

This year is really going to tell a lot.

what brings you joy?

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17 minutes ago, teef said:

what brings you joy?

Peterman hype videos.

1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said:

This is an almost completely invalid point when discussing winning the division.  We'll play Tenn and Pitt where the other teams play Bal, Cin, Cle, Ind, Jax, Hou.  That's the entire difference when it comes to winning the division.

 

Your instant spin of negativity doesn't turn irrelevant data points into meaningful considerations.

Well they did get swept by the 11-5 Patriots last season, so it’s not invalid if you think the Patriots will be a good team again. 

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12 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Peterman hype videos.

Well they did get swept by the 11-5 Patriots last season, so it’s not invalid if you think the Patriots will be a good team again. 

Is it lost on you that divisional teams play each other twice every year?

 

The topic of the thread is basically whether the Bills will win the division.  You cited the Bills difficult schedule as a reason they might not.  That is an almost entirely invalid reason.  

 

Now if you're saying "team x" within our division has improved, thus our schedule is harder than 2019, there might be a small point but the fact remains that each team plays the others twice.  Are you saying the Patriots have improved?  If so, make that the basis for your argument.  

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28 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

Is it lost on you that divisional teams play each other twice every year?

 

The topic of the thread is basically whether the Bills will win the division.  You cited the Bills difficult schedule as a reason they might not.  That is an almost entirely invalid reason.  

 

Now if you're saying "team x" within our division has improved, thus our schedule is harder than 2019, there might be a small point but the fact remains that each team plays the others twice.  Are you saying the Patriots have improved?  If so, make that the basis for your argument.  

 

I don't think even he would do that.

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31 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

 

Is it lost on you that divisional teams play each other twice every year?

 

The topic of the thread is basically whether the Bills will win the division.  You cited the Bills difficult schedule as a reason they might not.  That is an almost entirely invalid reason.  

 

Now if you're saying "team x" within our division has improved, thus our schedule is harder than 2019, there might be a small point but the fact remains that each team plays the others twice.  Are you saying the Patriots have improved?  If so, make that the basis for your argument.  

I'm saying they have a tough schedule and the Patriots have the best coach in the game whom McD has yet to beat. 

 

Have the Patriots struggled to beat the better teams of the league like the Bills have? 

 

I'm predicting the Bills win the division. If they don't it will be because they still struggle to beat the better teams of the league.

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10 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Everyone seems to look past the ridiculous cake walk of a schedule last season.... and McDs awful record against winning teams to this point.

 

This year is really going to tell a lot.

 

1 hour ago, teef said:

what brings you joy?

 

I'm actually with ScottLaw on this one.  I've been concerned about McDermott's a) inability to beat winning teams and b) propensity to get blown out for a while, now.  I did not like how the Bills limped into the playoffs last year.  I do not like when teams take their foot off the gas after clinching.  Winning 10 games last year was borderline pathetic with that schedule and it bothers me to this day.  And don't even get me started on how the roster was managed leading up to the playoffs and how the players were (mis)used in the playoff loss.

 

This will be a telling year, for sure.  I'm optimistic  -  more so than I can remember.  But it's cautious optimism.

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1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

Peterman hype videos.

Well they did get swept by the 11-5 Patriots last season, so it’s not invalid if you think the Patriots will be a good team again. 

Do you? Objectively speaking, how exactly have they improved their game day roster this offseason? Adding covid opt outs, how much regression could they afford after losing Brady? And before you tell me that Cam will be Brady Jr. under center there--he's first got to show that he can remain upright and out of the trainer's treatment room long enough to matter. Then there's this:

 

"Newton had no preseason games or joint practices to test drive this offense. There are rookies at tight end, a virtual rookie at fullback (Jakob Johnson), a wide receiver group that’s little-improved from the 2019 crew which Pro Football Focus said “collectively had the worst season of any receivers in the 14 years PFF has been grading every snap of NFL games.”

To think Newton’s going to come out Sunday against Miami, complete more than 60 percent of his passes, help the offense convert more than 40 percent of its third downs and have things moving like clockwork is to be detached from reality. Could it happen? Yes. But I’d be gobsmacked if it did."

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/what-would-successful-2020-season-be-cam-newton-patriots

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2 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Do you? Objectively speaking, how exactly have they improved their game day roster this offseason? Adding covid opt outs, how much regression could they afford after losing Brady? And before you tell me that Cam will be Brady Jr. under center there--he's first got to show that he can remain upright and out of the trainer's treatment room long enough to matter. Then there's this:

 

"Newton had no preseason games or joint practices to test drive this offense. There are rookies at tight end, a virtual rookie at fullback (Jakob Johnson), a wide receiver group that’s little-improved from the 2019 crew which Pro Football Focus said “collectively had the worst season of any receivers in the 14 years PFF has been grading every snap of NFL games.”

To think Newton’s going to come out Sunday against Miami, complete more than 60 percent of his passes, help the offense convert more than 40 percent of its third downs and have things moving like clockwork is to be detached from reality. Could it happen? Yes. But I’d be gobsmacked if it did."

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/what-would-successful-2020-season-be-cam-newton-patriots

 

The Cheaters would be thrilled to get the same production from Newton that they got out of Brady last year.  That being said, it's highly unlikely.

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Bills take the division this year. I'm usually cautiously optimistic, but this year I have a feeling we are going to be good!

 

Go Bills!

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On 9/7/2020 at 7:01 AM, IgotBILLStopay said:

They did sign Shaq Lawson who last year singlehandedly lifted the Bills defense to a #1 ranking and took the Bills to the playoffs.

Thats it! Lawson was the missing piece!

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