BillsMafi$ Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 https://www.radio.com/wgr550/sports/bills/buffalo-bills-53-man-roster-projection 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Sal's been talking up his Excel sheet for months - glad to finally see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Nothing too crazy or surprising. I expect Fromm to get cut to move to PS. Folks here will be upset about Wade, but do we have exclusive PS rights to him still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Nice to see Gabe Davis on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Not many surprises there except Fromm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 2.) With the new injured reserve rules allowing an unlimited number of players to return from I.R. during the season and players only needing to be on I.R. for a minimum of three weeks, it may impact what the team does with guard Jon Feliciano and fullback Patrick DiMarco. One possible scenario is that one or both make the final 53-man roster, then placed on I.R., and then the team re-signs someone they cut originally. The reason is because if they are placed on I.R. prior to making the final 53-man roster, they would have to be out for the entire season. I don’t see that happening. Feliciano had surgery for a torn pectoral muscle last month and DiMarco hasn’t practiced since the media has been able to attend starting on Aug. 17 due to a neck injury. How did I miss this? 3 weeks? Agree with Ike B. getting signed to 53 to replace Feliciano's slot. Maybe Gilliam to replace DiMarco slot. If Norman is still questionable maybe they add him to IR and go with Cam Lewis to his slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 10 Offensive lineman and only 2 qbs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 I don’t think they will play a season like this with only 3 QBs. I think Fromm stays as the 3rd QB. also think V. Taylor makes the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 10 O lineman and only 2 qbs? I have to assume they try and hide Fromm on the PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: 10 O lineman and only 2 qbs? I have to assume they try and hide Fromm on the PS. Absolutely Fromm to PS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Absolutely Fromm to PS Either that or he was so unimpressive give the third slot to Davis Webb on the 53. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 I could see this team putting Feliciano on the Pup list to start the season and rolling with 9 O-line players and putting Fromm on as the third QB. I think they then will cut the 9th O-line player to make room for Mongo when he is back after week 6. It just doesn't make sense for the Bills to cut Fromm and expose him to waivers. My only other maybe on this roster is will the Bills risk exposing Hodgins to waivers? I like Mackenzie but if Hodgins is playing well why not use him in a similar role? Then again Mac is a proven solid gadget guy who can handle a few plays a game and make an impact which adds a wrinkle to the offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Either that or he was so unimpressive give the third slot to Davis Webb on the 53. I'd be surprised (although anything is possible). Kid has a great football brain on his shoulders. Even if his arm isnt as impressive, I'd be shocked if they let him go so quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: I'd be surprised (although anything is possible). Kid has a great football brain on his shoulders. Even if his arm isnt as impressive, I'd be shocked if they let him go so quickly. He also has that what, "white elite athlete comment" on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: He also has that what, "white elite athlete comment" on him Everyone has moved past that. If that was a factor at all, he would have been cut at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: 10 O lineman and only 2 qbs? I have to assume they try and hide Fromm on the PS. Yeah I'd probably sub Winters out of the line for Dane Jackson at CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Yeah I'd probably sub Winters out of the line for Dane Jackson at CB If Winters is cut then Beane really missed on this and costs the team 3 million dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I could see this team putting Feliciano on the Pup list to start the season and rolling with 9 O-line players and putting Fromm on as the third QB. I think they then will cut the 9th O-line player to make room for Mongo when he is back after week 6. It just doesn't make sense for the Bills to cut Fromm and expose him to waivers. My only other maybe on this roster is will the Bills risk exposing Hodgins to waivers? I like Mackenzie but if Hodgins is playing well why not use him in a similar role? Then again Mac is a proven solid gadget guy who can handle a few plays a game and make an impact which adds a wrinkle to the offense. You can't PUP someone. They have to come into camp on PUP. They can IR him, but if they want him back this year they can only do that AFTER cutdowns. If they do it before he is done for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: If Winters is cut then Beane really missed on this and costs the team 3 million dollars. OK, guess I didn't realize it was all guaranteed. Obviously I haven't seen him play, but reading articles; BN, Athletic, etc, all have Winters also being cut. So kind of surprised then and assume it wasn't guaranteed, unless cutting him is still the lesser of the dead cap than others on the line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, BillsMafi$ said: https://www.radio.com/wgr550/sports/bills/buffalo-bills-53-man-roster-projection Taiwan Jones making this roster is 🤮 Lee Smith still in a Bills uniform is atrocious. Let's get with 2020 and cut Pat DiMarco too. Those three guys add ZERO ability to our team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: OK, guess I didn't realize it was all guaranteed. Obviously I haven't seen him play, but reading articles; BN, Athletic, etc, all have Winters also being cut. So kind of surprised then and assume it wasn't guaranteed, unless cutting him is still the lesser of the dead cap than others on the line? I know. Beane is a wizard but if Winters is cut it is a good sized miss. If he is not worth keeping I guess you got to cut him for a better player taking the slot. Replying to another point in this thread, I just don't see another team opening a slot for Fromm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 He couldn't do the sheet in Buffalo Bills colours? 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 I don't think this is the year to cut a QB you invested a 5th round draft pick in. All reports are he hasn't looked good.....but this isn't the offseason to move on from a player to soon. A very limited offseason, and 0 preseason games, coupled with what many say is a very difficult offense to grasp is a very fair shake for a rookie QB. This team has a lot of big extension coming in the next 1-2 years and if they can develop Fromm into a serviceable backup QB they'd have that postion covered on the cheap for 4 years. Which is a great value. I've also noticed a bit of a crusade for Fromm to be cut among some of the WNY media due to his texts that came out after the draft. But didn't Allen have a similar blemish pop up on draft day? In the end I don't think that'll play a factor on whether they keep him or not. Cutting him now would be waaaay premature and him clearing waivers is slim IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Nothing surprising in this appraisal by Sal. There will likely be a small number of differences in the official roster, with the post cut down IR players and those who fill their spots till they come off IR. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Taiwan Jones making this roster is 🤮 Lee Smith still in a Bills uniform is atrocious. Let's get with 2020 and cut Pat DiMarco too. Those three guys add ZERO ability to our team. I keep hearing DiMarco is only kept for special teams and Jones is another ST guy. Lee Smith is indefensible, he is a specializing in a role he isn't very good at. Trade for Njoku and solidify the position with 3 young tight ends. 26 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: You can't PUP someone. They have to come into camp on PUP. They can IR him, but if they want him back this year they can only do that AFTER cutdowns. If they do it before he is done for the year. I stand corrected, I think they hold onto him as the 9th oline player then and just make him inactive but then again maybe they do go 10 deep like Sal says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 35 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I know. Beane is a wizard but if Winters is cut it is a good sized miss. If he is not worth keeping I guess you got to cut him for a better player taking the slot. Replying to another point in this thread, I just don't see another team opening a slot for Fromm. A month ago, I'd have said they won't cut Fronm, now from everything you hear, would not shock me if he's cut and could pass through waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 I'd rather keep Hodgins at WR than McKenzie. I like McK for his speed and gadget plays...but Hodgins has got red zone size...something we don't have much of on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I keep hearing DiMarco is only kept for special teams and Jones is another ST guy. Lee Smith is indefensible, he is a specializing in a role he isn't very good at. Trade for Njoku and solidify the position with 3 young tight ends. I stand corrected, I think they hold onto him as the 9th oline player then and just make him inactive but then again maybe they do go 10 deep like Sal says. Yeah, I’m sick of hearing about Special Teams. Dick Jauron talked about it, Marrone talked about it, Sean McDermott is obsessed with it. Bottom line is this team needs points, and has needed more scoring ability forever. Keeping garbage 4th string running backs, a tight end below the NFL minimum physical traits for the position, and an expensive subpar Fullback who does nothing at the expense of another WR and/or CB is terrible decision making. 1 minute ago, jkeerie said: I'd rather keep Hodgins at WR than McKenzie. I like McK for his speed and gadget plays...but Hodgins has got red zone size...something we don't have much of on this team. Keep a 7th WR instead of T. Jones. Last year we kept three running backs and Yeldon was inactive virtually every Sunday. So I don’t understand how keeping a 4th RB this season will help this team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Very interesting. He has the exact same as me except he has D. Johnson instead of Corey Thompson, and Boehm instead of Croom. He also predicts the same baffling lack of cornerback depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Yeah, I’m sick of hearing about Special Teams. Dick Jauron talked about it, Marrone talked about it, Sean McDermott is obsessed with it. Bottom line is this team needs points, and has needed more scoring ability forever. Keeping garbage 4th string running backs, a tight end below the NFL minimum physical traits for the position, and an expensive subpar Fullback who does nothing at the expense of another WR and/or CB is terrible decision making. My point is a talented team does not keep 3 of these type of guys. It's time McDermott moves on from at least one of these players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Yeah, I’m sick of hearing about Special Teams. Dick Jauron talked about it, Marrone talked about it, Sean McDermott is obsessed with it. Bottom line is this team needs points, and has needed more scoring ability forever. Keeping garbage 4th string running backs, a tight end below the NFL minimum physical traits for the position, and an expensive subpar Fullback who does nothing at the expense of another WR and/or CB is terrible decision making. Keep a 7th WR instead of T. Jones. Last year we kept three running backs and Yeldon was inactive virtually every Sunday. So I don’t understand how keeping a 4th RB this season will help this team. Couldn't agree more... In this case, I'm talking about Boehm. Boehm helps this team more than the speedy Robert Foster or physical, emotionally charged Duke Williams? More than another rotational pass rusher? 10 OL and only 4 1/2 cornerbacks? Makes literally no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Couldn't agree more... In this case, I'm talking about Boehm. Boehm helps this team more than the speedy Robert Foster or physical, emotionally charged Duke Williams? More than another rotational pass rusher? 10 OL and only 4 1/2 cornerbacks? Makes literally no sense. The Bills got away with only keeping 4 cornerbacks on the opening roster last year, but I agree, banking on the same health this season is not smart. Especially if you find out halfway through the first game that Josh Norman has indeed lost a step or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: My point is a talented team does not keep 3 of these type of guys. It's time McDermott moves on from at least one of these players. Yes, I'm sick of seeing guys like Joe Webb, Joe Klepfenstein, Mike Tolbert, Kaelin Clay, Lee Smith, Ryan Neufeld kept around because they "block" or "they can play special teams" or they can return kicks or punts. They are borderline/fringe NFL players. We don't have time for those type of players anymore. Keep another DE to rotate in, a corner, or a wide receiver in their places. I totally agree with you, McDermott has to evolve. This team needs points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Yes, I'm sick of seeing guys like Joe Webb, Joe Klepfenstein, Mike Tolbert, Kaelin Clay, Lee Smith, Ryan Neufeld kept around because they "block" or "they can play special teams" or they can return kicks or punts. They are borderline/fringe NFL players. We don't have time for those type of players anymore. Keep another DE to rotate in, a corner, or a wide receiver in their places. I totally agree with you, McDermott has to evolve. This team needs points. We're all going to find out in a few hours. Beane and McDermott (along with input from all the positional coaches) have been talking about nothing else for days now. It's going to be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: I keep hearing DiMarco is only kept for special teams and Jones is another ST guy. Lee Smith is indefensible, he is a specializing in a role he isn't very good at. Trade for Njoku and solidify the position with 3 young tight ends. I am all for trading for Njoku but it would be instead of Kroft not Smith. Fans hate full backs, tight ends and back end of the roster guys who are kept because they can play teams as well as backup. It happens every year. What also happens is people say "good teams don't keep guys to play special teams!!!" Well the team who has won more Superbowls than anyone in the last 20 years always keeps people specifically to play teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Last year we kept three running backs and Yeldon was inactive virtually every Sunday. So I don’t understand how keeping a 4th RB this season will help this team. Because he is an elite gunner. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Taiwan Jones making this roster is 🤮 Lee Smith still in a Bills uniform is atrocious. Let's get with 2020 and cut Pat DiMarco too. Those three guys add ZERO ability to our team. I mean... I would argue that the value a team gets out of its core special teams players is greater than the value they get out of, say, a 7th WR or 10th o-linemen who will rarely suit up for game day. Just my opinion. Edited September 4, 2020 by Logic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Because he is an elite gunner. IF he stays healthy. Jones's last 2 season with the Bills he only last 8 and 6 games before going to IR. He was already "injured" in camp and is not getting any younger. just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: IF he stays healthy. Jones's last 2 season with the Bills he only last 8 and 6 games before going to IR. He was already "injured" in camp and is not getting any younger. just saying. For sure. He has to be healthy. 5 minutes ago, Logic said: I mean... I would argue that the value a team gets out of its core special teams players is greater than the value they get out of, say, a 7th WR or 10th o-linemen who will rarely suit up for game day. Just my opinion. Your opinion is correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Last year we kept three running backs and Yeldon was inactive virtually every Sunday. So I don’t understand how keeping a 4th RB this season will help this team. Keep inactive RB#3 from getting lonely? 🤔 "Hey, Four! Pass me the pretzels!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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