Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Magox said: lol I thought it would be larger than that if you clicked on it.....I suppose not. Looks like that kid did the human race a favor. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, Koko78 said: So... how'd that energized youth vote work out for Bernie? You guys never learn. Lol, ya, that makes sense. We are not the side that fears democracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: When Trump or some other racist does something evil, all we hear is "Oh everyone is bad!" That's such a dodge. Comparing Obama to this corrupt, anti-democratic regime is sickening,. I suppose Hitler's supporters blamed the Weimar Republic for all the violence he fostered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Magox said: lol I thought it would be larger than that if you clicked on it.....I suppose not. So which guy was it. Huber or Rosenbaum or both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Niagara Bill said: I do not see the knife as an issue at all. Here is the issue imho. 1. There was no imminent danger 2. The crime being investigated does not warrant such a violent reaction from police. 3. They know who this guy is, even if he runs they will get him. 4. Disable the car. 5. And the big issue....not 1 shot to the leg...to stop him,,,,,,but 7 or 8 in the back.. you would never shoot a deer 8 times, or a bear. That leads me...a white guy to say this is a hate crime by a gutless cop. In my best Joe Biden: "Come on man!" This post is ridiculous. You're asking the police to manage the safety of criminals who are in the act of resisting and potentially attacking to put themselves at risk of death in the process. It doesn't work that way. In nearly every one of these situations where police shoot a criminal we see the cops take steps to arrest the criminal without harm and the criminals disobey multiple verbal instructions, efforts to restrain and tasers. In this case Blake resists and ignores all that and enters his car apparently to grab a deadly weapon. At that point the police have cause to eliminate the threat. Not slow down the threat, but eliminate it. That I believe is their legal right and how they are trained. 1 bullet or 7 or 70 makes no difference. Eliminate it. Blake and every other American should expect exactly that if they forcefully resist and then pose a threat to a police officer. Edited August 27, 2020 by keepthefaith 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, Tiberius said: When Trump or some other racist does something evil, all we hear is "Oh everyone is bad!" That's such a dodge. Comparing Obama to this corrupt, anti-democratic regime is sickening,. I suppose Hitler's supporters blamed the Weimar Republic for all the violence he fostered You're obviously confused and it's pointless to continue laying factual things before you because all you do is regurgitate the same bs they have been spouting on MSM for the last 4 years. You obviously have never done any actual studying of Hitler on your own as well, have you? I wrote multiple reports on Hitler when I was in school, digging into his background and policies more with each one. I did so because my grandfather was a WWII and Korean War veteran who lost an eye in Korea. He was on the beaches at Normandy. He earned multiple Purple Heart's from his combat duty and an Oak Leaf Cluster. He enlisted at 16 years old, lying about his age, because he wanted to fight for his country. From our conversations it made me want to understand the enemy he faced. The way the MSM and completely unknowledgeable people throw their bs around trying to compare conservatives and Trump to Hitler or The Third Reich is absolutely laughable. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Lol, ya, that makes sense. We are not the side that fears democracy. You are terrified of democracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, keepthefaith said: In my best Joe Biden: "Come on man!" This post is ridiculous. You're asking the police to manage the safety of criminals who are in the act of resisting and possibly attacking officers to manage the safety of the criminal and put themselves at risk of death in the process. It doesn't work that way. In nearly every one of these situations where police shoot a criminal we see the cops take steps to arrest the criminal without harm and the criminals disobey multiple verbal instructions, efforts to restrain and tasers. In this case Blake resists and ignores all that and enters his car apparently to grab a deadly weapon. At that point the police have cause to eliminate the threat. Not slow down the threat, but eliminate it. That I believe is their legal right and how they are trained. 1 bullet or 7 or 70 makes no difference. Eliminate it. Blake and every other American should expect exactly that if they forcefully resist and then pose a threat to a police officer. You have a different view on this. If I was to resist arrest on a charge of running a red light, there is no justification that would make it ok to shoot me in the back 7 times. Cops have enough training and tools at their disposal to not kill a person over a traffic stop. While this young criminal did not die, he appears to be paralyzed, but is either outcome even remotely acceptable. The answer is no. Find another way....has nothing changed since Tombstone. This guy is not John Dillinger or Bonnie and Clyde. Unless significant change occurs, and the time is right for it, it appears, can you see where the future is going... Yes you have looters and pros in riots, but change needs to happen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: You have a different view on this. If I was to resist arrest on a charge of running a red light, there is no justification that would make it ok to shoot me in the back 7 times. Cops have enough training and tools at their disposal to not kill a person over a traffic stop. While this young criminal did not die, he appears to be paralyzed, but is either outcome even remotely acceptable. The answer is no. Find another way....has nothing changed since Tombstone. This guy is not John Dillinger or Bonnie and Clyde. Unless significant change occurs, and the time is right for it, it appears, can you see where the future is going... Yes you have looters and pros in riots, but change needs to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: You have a different view on this. If I was to resist arrest on a charge of running a red light, there is no justification that would make it ok to shoot me in the back 7 times. Cops have enough training and tools at their disposal to not kill a person over a traffic stop. While this young criminal did not die, he appears to be paralyzed, but is either outcome even remotely acceptable. The answer is no. Find another way....has nothing changed since Tombstone. This guy is not John Dillinger or Bonnie and Clyde. Unless significant change occurs, and the time is right for it, it appears, can you see where the future is going... Yes you have looters and pros in riots, but change needs to happen You're an idiot. DC Tom 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 21 minutes ago, bdutton said: So which guy was it. Huber or Rosenbaum or both? Both...My first post implied that it was just one guy. This is both of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbeau Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, bdutton said: So which guy was it. Huber or Rosenbaum or both? RosenBaum was the bald guy he capped in the head. Huber was the skateboarder. Apparently the guy with the hole in is arm also has a felony on his record. Edited August 27, 2020 by Kevbeau 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: You are terrified of democracy. Nope, we got the numbers. And we grow stronger everyday. You guys are getting diminished everyday. Its not my side that ran to murderous Putin for help 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) What really happened with those Kenosha shootings Here's a point-by-point chronology Violence broke out late Tuesday night during a spat of BLM infighting in Kenosha, WI, leaving one critically wounded and two dead after a small band of armed men carrying rifles and wearing symbols affiliated with the Libertarian Party found themselves the target of a violent mob. The multiracial libertarian group had been initially supportive of the BLM rioters, immersing themselves in the crowd and clenching their fists while repeating various phrases associated with the movement. “As long as you f*** with the government and not with each other, we are with you. No lives can matter until black lives matter!” one of the men said, the Libertarian Party’s porcupine symbol emblazoned on his shirt. The group then proceeded to march down the road, stopping at a boarded up gas station and milling about as protestors marched by. The crowds swelled as the night went on, becoming more confident and aggressive. A band of rioters went into the gas station parking lot to harass the armed libertarians, enraged that they would not be able to loot and vandalize as they pleased. One white rioter walked right up to the armed men and proceeded to taunt them, calling them the n-word. “Shoot me n***a! Shoot me n***a! Bust on me n***a fo’ real!” The situation escalated, and that is exactly what happened. (Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ... Edited August 27, 2020 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 So wait, the OP meant the guys who attacked the shooter were domestic terrorists? Oh, that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said: Sorry dubs but cannot agree. In any society the actions of this cop are wrong. If he had the weapon I get it... He may be drunk, high, a criminal, violent etc. 3 kids standing there, There is no crime short of murder that demands this type of over reaction at this stage of the confrontation. I am a law and order type...but not this type how is the cop supposed to know what he’s reaching for in his car? There are countless situations that end badly for the cops, the perpetrator, and innocent bystanders because cops didn’t stop someone. At this point, we need to wait and see what the details are, but it’s just as plausible that the cops were justified as it is that they were not. which is why the inflammatory nature of narratives needs to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: You're an idiot. DC Tom Such an intelligent response deserves an insult back, but that would fit into the chaos you thrive in. Hope your family is safe. Peace and Love.. Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, Niagara Bill said: Such an intelligent response deserves an insult back, but that would fit into the chaos you thrive in. Hope your family is safe. Peace and Love.. Ciao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Nope, we got the numbers. And we grow stronger everyday. You guys are getting diminished everyday. Its not my side that ran to murderous Putin for help Actually, you guys ran to Putin as you have done with the Russians since the 1920's. Stop with the gaslighting as only weak minded fools such as yourself buy it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Another insider speaks out about Trump's incitment of domestic terrorism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Another insider speaks out about Trump's incitment of domestic terrorism 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Wow the New York Times did a great job tracking what happened to the kid and the shootings. I can't believe they actually investigated this properly. The kid was being chased after in both circumstances with people holding hand guns. Before the first incident, one of the guys chasing him shot his gun into the air. Just imagine how frightened he was when that happened. He turns around and what does he see? The guy who threw an object at him attacking, right before he heard gun shots. Of course he was justified to shoot the guy. And then moments later he's running away, he doesn't know what the hell is going on and then a mob of people are chasing him, and now you have another guy with a gun chasing him. And other people attacking him. That's it. Self defense. CASE CLOSED! 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SectionC3 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Actually, you guys ran to Putin as you have done with the Russians since the 1920's. Stop with the gaslighting as only weak minded fools such as yourself buy it. Hoax. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: Hoax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Wow just read how Peter Navarro said Canada is "out of step" with trump's world. What a compliment....woohoo Just trying to figure out who is in that world... Oh yeh, his friend, Kim and Vladdy and ??. So all we have left in our world to be in step with are, France, Britain, Spain, Germany, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Italy, Mexico, Finland, Costa Rica, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, India, Israel, Greece,....oh I should stop this list, dinner time...to be continued 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Hoax. Speaking of hoaxes, Russia, Ukraine, bountygate, defunding USPS, democrats denouncing riots, looting, violence, all hoaxes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Wow just read how Peter Navarro said Canada is "out of step" with trump's world. What a compliment....woohoo Just trying to figure out who is in that world... Oh yeh, his friend, Kim and Vladdy and ??. So all we have left in our world to be in step with are, France, Britain, Spain, Germany, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Italy, Mexico, Finland, Costa Rica, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, India, Israel, Greece,....oh I should stop this list, dinner time...to be continued 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Reality Check said: Imagine all this violence is happening with trump as president and pence as do. They sure are keeping law and order or after 3.5 years is he still blaming someone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Imagine all this violence is happening with trump as president and pence as do. They sure are keeping law and order or after 3.5 years is he still blaming someone else. This started with Obama and the gentle giant Micheal Brown in Ferguson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Wow just read how Peter Navarro said Canada is "out of step" with trump's world. What a compliment....woohoo Just trying to figure out who is in that world... Oh yeh, his friend, Kim and Vladdy and ??. So all we have left in our world to be in step with are, France, Britain, Spain, Germany, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Italy, Mexico, Finland, Costa Rica, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, India, Israel, Greece,....oh I should stop this list, dinner time...to be continued Canada, America's annoying upstairs neighbor, if it wasn't for America, Canadians would be speaking Russian now, especially with their queen prime minister 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Headline: "White Cop Shoots Unarmed Black Man" So the lie begins. Let's talk about Jacob Blake and this situation for a minute though. Blake had an outstanding warrant and 8-1/2 years hanging over his head. It has also been established he was wielding a knife and fighting with the cops. They didn't tell you that in the beginning though. Why would they? He had an outstanding warrant and 8-1/2 years hanging over his head for, among other things, sexually assaulting a 15 year old. They didn't tell you that in the beginning though. Why would they? He had a history of violently resisting arrest. They didn't tell you that in the beginning though. Why would they? He was tased to no avail. They didn't tell you that in the beginning though. Why would they? He then goes to reach into a vehicle and gets shot. They didn't tell you that in the beginning though. Why would they? Did he deserve to be shot? Can't say, but what do you think he is going into the vehicle for? A gun possibly? Yeah, he brought it on himself. Did he need to be shot 7 times though? Absolutely not. The cop/cops involved should be held accountable. But now, NOW you have the MSM salivating with another race baiting agenda. Covid is amazingly forgotten and now it's time to push the chaos, race war agenda again. This is so easy to see through that Stevie Wonder is nodding his head with me. Then these players are protesting because a criminal, who was the subject of a 911 call, resisted arrest, fought with police, was tased to no avail, and reached into a car got shot by said police. That's incredibly upstanding of them, don't you think? Refusing to play because a criminal who resisted arrest at every turn, fought with cops, sexually assaults 15 year olds, and reaches into a vehicle ignoring the cops attempt to subdue him then gets shot? You can't make this up. Then you have the sheeple too blind to see that all of this is strategically reported and the flames are fanned for the purpose they so desire. But, hey, puppets do whatever those pulling the strings have them do. My suggestion? Cut the strings and become your own person. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Imagine all this violence is happening with trump as president and pence as do. They sure are keeping law and order or after 3.5 years is he still blaming someone else. You know nothing about U.S. laws, statehood and the roles of various levels of government. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, H2o said: Headline: "White Cop Shoots Unarmed Black Man" He had an outstanding warrant and 8-1/2 years hanging over his head for, among other things, sexually assaulting a 15 year old. T To be fair... I have heard different stories about the age of the victim. Do you have a link clarifying the age of the victim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Imagine all this violence is happening with trump as president and pence as do. They sure are keeping law and order or after 3.5 years is he still blaming someone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: Canada, America's annoying upstairs neighbor, if it wasn't for America, Canadians would be speaking Russian now, especially with their queen prime minister Honestly? You’re so out of touch. Make America Great? Make it more like Canada. You are the breathing stereotype of the people that the vast majority of Canadians think of when the word “American” is spoken. Your superiority complex is so misplaced. You are a divided land, much of it due to a misguided trust and belief in one of your two political parties. By all evidence, there is no grey area for a right wing, Republican. Consider an alternate point of view? Find common ground? Nah. Too busy being self righteous. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, bdutton said: To be fair... I have heard different stories about the age of the victim. Do you have a link clarifying the age of the victim? I found it yesterday on Twitter. Someone had linked to it. It would be like trying to find a needle in a haystack on there now though. The internet is at your fingertips. You won't find, but so much on Google though because, well, Google. Feel free to search. It's a minor though so just keep in mind they try to protect them as much as possible after the fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, bdutton said: This started with Obama and the gentle giant Micheal Brown in Ferguson. And trump has done what, blame ignore threaten, just like covid19 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 16 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: To defend private property from violent Communist mobs. Which is a moral and just thing to do. What is it with you folks who think people who oppose what’s been happening are supposed to just sit back and take it? Do you not realize that was a stupid assumption? That the majority of the country, especially once you get away from the coasts, don’t relish being victims, and will instead refuse to be victimized, incorporating lethal force as necessary? The left has been pushing for this for months, and now it will reap what it has sowed. This won’t be an isolated incident. Just catching up on this thread and my thoughts may have already been posted by someone else but it's obvious that OP thinks that BLM and Antifa have every right to do what they're doing, which is causing havoc via of looting, arson and violence. He believes people can't morally stand up to BLM and Antifa and that it's the government's (police) duty to quell the rioting. He also wants to defund the police. I'm not sure I even want to read the next 9 pages. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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