BullBuchanan Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, RiotAct said: He was being funny, or at least trying to. Seems a lot of people missed that. Scary stuff. Although it's quite amazing how many non-satirical posts followed thereafter in agreement. Edited July 31, 2020 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brueggs Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 58 minutes ago, K-9 said: Kaepernick and any teammate who wanted to, had the expressed permission from the 49ers to take a knee. Quote from NFL.com. "Kaepernick said that he is aware of what he is doing and that he knows it will not sit well with a lot of people, including the 49ers. He said that he did not inform the club or anyone affiliated with the team of his intentions to protest the national anthem". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Brueggs said: Quote from NFL.com. "Kaepernick said that he is aware of what he is doing and that he knows it will not sit well with a lot of people, including the 49ers. He said that he did not inform the club or anyone affiliated with the team of his intentions to protest the national anthem". Another quote from NFL.com: Quote The 49ers issued a statement about Kaepernick's decision: "The national anthem is and always will be a special part of the pre-game ceremony. It is an opportunity to honor our country and reflect on the great liberties we are afforded as its citizens. In respecting such American principles as freedom of religion and freedom of expression, we recognize the right of an individual to choose and participate, or not, in our celebration of the national anthem." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: We already went over this on page 19 where you suggested you can't be a family if there isn't a father present. Based on your limited worldview it's no surprise that you also have a twisted view of "marxism". Do you realize just how boring you are? Before you convince 1 person to agree with your lame, banal point of view, you will put 100,000 folks to sleep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimtoga Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, dwight in philly said: ok...where did you see "a lot of information" saying they are marxists and want to destroy the nuclear family ? you mean there are others like me that saw it , know it? Where’s the link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 On 7/29/2020 at 8:24 PM, swimtoga said: On 7/29/2020 at 1:29 PM, dwight in philly said: Its not about "black lives" matter or any other "cause du jour" BLM is a marxist organization.. look at their website .. All the weenie leagues and Companies giving them money are pathetic.. i guess all the predictable barbs will come.. Link? From the mouth of one of BLMs founders: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brueggs Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 13 minutes ago, K-9 said: Another quote from NFL.com: Yes, after the fact. The point was, when this started, he did not have consent. Now people/organizations are falling all over themselves trying to be politically correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hedge said: From the mouth of one of BLMs founders: And? I'm not sure what a "trained marxist" is supposed to be. Did she take a test? Edited July 31, 2020 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Some of you just don't understand....they are promoting GOOD Marxism!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, KD in CA said: Some of you just don't understand....they are promoting GOOD Marxism!! Is that not possible? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: And? Marxism seems to be right in your wheelhouse, Mr. upside down American flag guy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hedge said: Marxism seems to be right in your wheelhouse, Mr. upside down American flag guy. I support workers, and believe that this country belongs to the people and not the 1% of the 1% who claim it for themselves. I Believe this country is made better by unions, collective bargaining, pensions, and healthcare. Who do you support? Edited July 31, 2020 by BullBuchanan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Brueggs said: Yes, after the fact. The point was, when this started, he did not have consent. Now people/organizations are falling all over themselves trying to be politically correct. Yes, immediately after the fact. The fact CK didn’t seek permission beforehand does nothing to diminish the fact that his employers granted that permission moving forward. This might be about political correctness to some people, but to those corporations and other enterprises overtly showing support for the movement, it’s about their market analyses and what that data reveals about external and internal customers. Edited July 31, 2020 by K-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just wanted to point out how hypocritical and absurd it is that the people terrified of the “Marxist” BLM aren’t even slightly concerned about the rise of actual, clear-as-day fascism in our country. Hey you! Ignore the unmarked federal police troops snatching protestors off the streets and tear-gassing Americans nightly and the president talking about delaying the election and refusing to accept the results of said election, and instead look over here at the scary, Marxist brown people! Racist fear-mongering and Red-scaring to frighten the populace into voting for “law and order” and to distract them from the dangerous actions of those in power that are ACTUALLY endangering our country. The playbook hasn’t changed in 70 years. Points for consistency, I guess? It would be funny if it wasn’t so transparent and vile. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Logic said: Just wanted to point out how hypocritical and absurd it is that the people terrified of the “Marxist” BLM aren’t even slightly concerned about the rise of actual, clear-as-day fascism in our country. Hey you! Ignore the unmarked federal police troops snatching protestors off the streets and tear-gassing Americans nightly and the president talking about delaying the election and refusing to accept the results of said election, and instead look over here at the scary, Marxist brown people! Racist fear-mongering and Red-scaring to frighten the populace into voting for “law and order” and to distract them from the dangerous actions of those in power that are ACTUALLY endangering our country. The playbook hasn’t changed in 70 years. Points for consistency, I guess? It would be funny if it wasn’t so transparent and vile. Most of this garbage. That said, talk of delaying the election is indeed a bridge too far. Even the mention if it is totally unacceptable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brueggs Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, K-9 said: Yes, immediately after the fact. The fact CK didn’t seek permission beforehand does nothing to diminish the fact that his employers granted that permission moving forward. This might be about political correctness to some people, but to those corporations and other enterprises overtly showing support for the movement, it’s about their market analyses and what that data reveals about external and internal customers. Fair enough, but it does say something about him that he put his employer in that situation. I agree 100%. The NFL is a business and the all mighty dollar is king. I might be wrong, but I think they may have miscalculated on this one. The variable are too hard to predict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Most of this garbage. That said, talk of delaying the election is indeed a bridge too far. Even the mention if it is totally unacceptable. Are you saying that you're ok with literal fascism, or you don't agree on the definition of fascism. Because anyone that knows the definition of fascism is saying that's literally what is happening under this regime. We are living under authoritarian rule in a police state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Are you saying that you're ok with literal fascism, or you don't agree on the definition of fascism. Because anyone that knows the definition of fascism is saying that's literally what is happening under this regime. We are living under authoritarian rule in a police state. And here I thought you couldn't be any more misinformed. If you think present day USA is a fascist, authoritarian police state you're willfully blind to reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: And here I thought you couldn't be any more misinformed. If you think present day USA is a fascist, authoritarian police state you're willfully blind to reality. So what do you call it when police march down neighborhood streets shooting people on their porch, abduct citizens without warrants or cause, deny people of their right to protest, physically assault and arrest the press and shoot first responders? What exactly do you think a fascist police state is? I mean really, what do you think is missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Are you saying that you're ok with literal fascism, or you don't agree on the definition of fascism. Because anyone that knows the definition of fascism is saying that's literally what is happening under this regime. We are living under authoritarian rule in a police state. You can tell because under fascist regimes people are often allowed to openly describe the government as fascist with literally no consequence. Either way, what really matters is the threat of delaying the election. Whereas most of the accusations of fascism are petulant or based on flat misrepresentations, the threat of moving the election date is truly problematic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, swimtoga said: Where’s the link? . stop Edited July 31, 2020 by dwight in philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: You can tell because under fascist regimes people are often allowed to openly describe the government as fascist with literally no consequence. Either way, what really matters is the threat of delaying the election. Whereas most of the accusations of fascism are petulant or based on flat misrepresentations, the threat of moving the election date is truly problematic. Not to me. To me it's a symptom of disease. If that threat goes away nothing is solved. We're still living under a fascist regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: So what do you call it when police march down neighborhood streets shooting people on their porch, abduct citizens without warrants or cause, deny people of their right to protest, physically assault and arrest the press and shoot first responders? What exactly do you think a fascist police state is? I mean really, what do you think is missing? Attacking the media as an enemy of the people, questioning the legitimacy of our elections, and scapegoating a class of people for starters. Oh wait... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, K-9 said: Attacking the media as an enemy of the people, questioning the legitimacy of our elections, and scapegoating a class of people for starters. Oh wait... It's almost like it happens in stages and you don't just wake up after a coup no one saw coming and now you live in a one party authoritarian regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: We already went over this on page 19 where you suggested you can't be a family if there isn't a father present. Based on your limited worldview it's no surprise that you also have a twisted view of "marxism". THANK YOU! Casting judgment on others when you have no point .. if it gets you through the day.. go for it.. was going to say "i salute you" .. but nah.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: So what do you call it when police march down neighborhood streets shooting people on their porch, abduct citizens without warrants or cause, deny people of their right to protest, physically assault and arrest the press and shoot first responders? What exactly do you think a fascist police state is? I mean really, what do you think is missing? Those would be terrible things! Where is that happening exactly? I'm looking for receipts here. To be clear I'm looking for all circumstances surrounding police marching down streets and shooting people. I'm looking for abduction (not detention for questioning) without cause. I'm looking for protests (not riots, no projectiles thrown, no torches or saws to cut fences, etc.) that are being denied. I'm looking for the assault/arrest of the press without multiple requests to disperse. I'm looking for first responders being shot who are not part of an authorized no knock warrant that erupts into a firefight. You seem to be getting your information from sub 30 second video clips on social media that ignore key context which provides insight into why some things may happen. I suggest properly researching some of the events that outrage you to fully understand what occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Not to me. To me it's a symptom of disease. If that threat goes away nothing is solved. We're still living under a fascist regime. No. We aren't. But you do you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 26 minutes ago, Logic said: Just wanted to point out how hypocritical and absurd it is that the people terrified of the “Marxist” BLM aren’t even slightly concerned about the rise of actual, clear-as-day fascism in our country. Hey you! Ignore the unmarked federal police troops snatching protestors off the streets and tear-gassing Americans nightly and the president talking about delaying the election and refusing to accept the results of said election, and instead look over here at the scary, Marxist brown people! Racist fear-mongering and Red-scaring to frighten the populace into voting for “law and order” and to distract them from the dangerous actions of those in power that are ACTUALLY endangering our country. The playbook hasn’t changed in 70 years. Points for consistency, I guess? It would be funny if it wasn’t so transparent and vile. Is this happening because our cities are being terrorized every night by non peaceful protests? And Mayors have refused to step in? So we actually had to send in the feds to clean stuff up. you can't have 7 weeks of non peaceful protests every night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Dear lord. What is this? How do some you go through life making everything political? If conservatives were for black lives, of course it would be supported. If Trump could say black lives matter and not call their protestors thugs and animals (while praising armed white protestors as patriots), he would probably be re-elected. thinking racial equality is political is absolutely idiotic. Why does everything have to be political? That Anthony wiener guy (so ironic) is a pervert regardless of party. I thought Trump was a joke long before he ran for president and he has proven to one of the worst leaders ever. Why is that a political opinion? If he was a football coach, we could do this. I don’t care if he’s republican or Democrat (which he was for a lot of his life)? and you realize Mike Pence wasted tax payers dollars to stage a walk out at a Colts game, right? How is that making sports political? You’re an idiot. You are proving my point. PS Obama called the people of Baltimore Thugs and Animals too! You obviously don’t see the difference between BLM organization and Black people’s lives matter. It’s all political but you choose not to see it because of your political views. My point is to stop making everything political and you go off on politics lol. And what are your thoughts about black people who won’t say Black Lives Matter? And Don’t support the black lives matter movement... You realize BLM organization is a racially created movement that is 100% political, though you said it would be an idiotic thing. Edited July 31, 2020 by CEN-CAL17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Is this happening because our cities are being terrorized every night by non peaceful protests? And Mayors have refused to step in? So we actually had to send in the feds to clean stuff up. you can't have 7 weeks of non peaceful protests every night Anything less than allowing the protestors to burn down Federal buildings is full blown fascism. Duh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: It's almost like it happens in stages and you don't just wake up after a coup no one saw coming and now you live in a one party authoritarian regime. Democracies are fragile and require constant vigilance and participation. I recommend reading On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons From The Twentieth Century by Timothy Snyder. I also agree with Steve Schmidt when he said that fascism didn’t take Germany and Italy because it was strong, but because democracy was weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, CEN-CAL17 said: You’re an idiot. You are proving my point. PS Obama called the people of Baltimore Thugs and Animals too! You obviously don’t see the difference between BLM organization and Black people’s lives matter. It’s all political but you choose not to see it because of your political views. My point is to stop making everything political and you go off on politics lol. I’m actually shocked you used the right form of you’re. You aren’t as dumb as I thought. Still not smart but good job with basic grammar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Those would be terrible things! Where is that happening exactly? I'm looking for receipts here. To be clear I'm looking for all circumstances surrounding police marching down streets and shooting people. I'm looking for abduction (not detention for questioning) without cause. I'm looking for protests (not riots, no projectiles thrown, no torches or saws to cut fences, etc.) that are being denied. I'm looking for the assault/arrest of the press without multiple requests to disperse. I'm looking for first responders being shot who are not part of an authorized no knock warrant that erupts into a firefight. You seem to be getting your information from sub 30 second video clips on social media that ignore key context which provides insight into why some things may happen. I suggest properly researching some of the events that outrage you to fully understand what occurred. People shot on porch: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/minneapolis-police-national-guard-paintball-shooting-porch-a9541016.html Police Shooting First responders (I have plenty more): https://www.kut.org/post/they-shot-all-us-austin-medic-recalls-weekend-police-violence-amid-peaceful-protests Feds abducting people without warrant, crime, or explanation on "suspicion of crimes": https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland Police attack australian journalists; More journalists attacked: Police intentionally aiming to kill with "less lethal" munitions: https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/austin-teen-hospitalized-with-head-injury-after-police-shoot-him-with-bean-bags-at-protest"The lead medic with Austin Street Medics immediately ran up to the front to go to this boy, and she put her hands up, she did the cross in front of her face. That was the sign, like, 'Hey, I'm a medic.' She has her medic shirt on. She has all her stuff showing that says she's a medic, and they shot her," Brake said. "They shot her in the hands that she was using to protect her face."" Don't pull your back trying to defend this. Edited July 31, 2020 by BullBuchanan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Is this happening because our cities are being terrorized every night by non peaceful protests? And Mayors have refused to step in? So we actually had to send in the feds to clean stuff up. you can't have 7 weeks of non peaceful protests every night So, just to be clear: you are in favor of unmarked federal forces putting protestors — and make no mistake, many of those being taken ARE peaceful protestors — into unmarked rental vans, without reading them their rights? You’re on board with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, Logic said: So, just to be clear: you are in favor of unmarked federal forces putting protestors — and make no mistake, many of those being taken ARE peaceful protestors — into unmarked rental vans, without reading them their rights? You’re on board with that? count ME in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 This thread went exactly where everyone knew it would. Right in the gutter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, dwight in philly said: count ME in! Thanks for chiming in. Tally Dwight into the “totally cool with fascism” column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, Logic said: Thanks for chiming in. Tally Dwight into the “totally cool with fascism” column. fascism?? what? are you the "fascist guy" categorizes ? 2 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: This thread went exactly where everyone knew it would. Right in the gutter... Essentialy that is where BLM belongs IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, dwight in philly said: fascism?? what? are you the "fascist guy" categorizes ? Essentialy that is where BLM belongs IMHO I guess some fascists don't think they're bad people after all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, dwight in philly said: fascism?? what? are you the "fascist guy" categorizes ? If you don’t see how using a secret police force to quash dissent and to physically attack press and medics — not to mention threatening to delay an election — are fascist tactics, I can’t help you. Go read a history book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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