BillsFan4 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Now here’s a waiver claim I’d like to see the Sabres make! I knew someone good would go on waivers right after they claimed caggiula. Wonder if the Montour trade makes a Riikola waiver claim more likely? I hope so! 10 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Ciao, Montour. Glad to be rid of you! Botterill took a prospect (Guhle), added a first round pick, turned it into Montour, which we have now turned into a third round pick. And people wonder why we are bad. Yep. Terrible asset management. Terrible drafting, and even worse development. If you have an athletic subscription, this is a really good deep dive into just how horrible our drafting has been during the rebuild. https://theathletic.com/2499017/2021/04/06/how-buffalos-poor-drafting-decisions-destroyed-the-franchise-and-who-they-couldve-picked-to-save-it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Now here’s a waiver claim I’d like to see the Sabres make! I knew someone good would go on waivers right after they claimed caggiula. Wonder if the Montour trade makes a Riikola waiver claim more likely? I hope so! Yep. Terrible asset management. Terrible drafting, and even worse development. If you have an athletic subscription, this is a really good deep dive into just how horrible our drafting has been during the rebuild. https://theathletic.com/2499017/2021/04/06/how-buffalos-poor-drafting-decisions-destroyed-the-franchise-and-who-they-couldve-picked-to-save-it I honestly think a magic 8 ball could draft better. They need to bring in competent hockey people and get out of the way or sell the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Ciao, Montour. Glad to be rid of you! Botterill took a prospect (Guhle), added a first round pick, turned it into Montour, which we have now turned into a third round pick. And people wonder why we are bad. Watch he will magically get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 good! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 16 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: good! Linus has really stepped up his game this year. He's a miraculous 8-6-0-3 on the worst team in the league. I hope they can get a deal done with him and blast Hutton into the sun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 23 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: If you have an athletic subscription, this is a really good deep dive into just how horrible our drafting has been during the rebuild. https://theathletic.com/2499017/2021/04/06/how-buffalos-poor-drafting-decisions-destroyed-the-franchise-and-who-they-couldve-picked-to-save-it Nice to know where The Athletic writers get ideas for their topics: 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 5 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Linus has really stepped up his game this year. He's a miraculous 8-6-0-3 on the worst team in the league. I hope they can get a deal done with him and blast Hutton into the sun. Good news, Sabres come back and beat the Flyers. Bad news, reports say Ullmark will test free agency. So Adams has to move him tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 if this is true it completely changes my feelings on trading him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 can confirm: Hall will likely be traded to an NHL team sometime before the deadline tomorrow. I want credit for my sources if it happens... 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) Hall dealt to the Bruins, no word on who/what is coming back yet. Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC Taylor Hall to BOS 11:55 PM · Apr 11, 2021·Twitter Web App Edited April 12, 2021 by ChevyVanMiller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) no clue who Bjork is but Boston fans are thrilled with the deal and don’t seem to care about Bjork at all. was hoping for a decent prospect at least. This return seems light. edit - 5 points total this season. His best ever season was 19pts. https://www.nhl.com/player/anders-bjork-8478075 and he has 2 years left on his contract at a $1.6M per year cap hit. Guess it’s not fair to get aggravated before seeing Bjork play, but is he better than Lazar? Or worse? If it’s a wash, then I’d just have rather kept Lazar. Especially since Lazar costs 1/2 as much for next season ($800k vs $1.6M for Bjork) Im wondering if the Sabres took a lesser return in Hall to avoid retaining salary? It’ll be interesting to see if they did. edit 2 - yep, they retained 50% of Hall’s salary (not sure on Lazar). Yikes. Hard not to feel like Adams got taken advantage of by an experienced GM. So, Granato’s connections have brought us Drake Caggiula and Anders Bjork so far. Edited April 12, 2021 by BillsFan4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/9/2021 at 9:26 PM, RiotAct said: Caligula? “More CONVICTION!” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Terrible. Sux having a gm who has no business sitting in that position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: no clue who Bjork is but Boston fans are thrilled with the deal and don’t seem to care about Bjork at all. was hoping for a decent prospect at least. This return seems light. Crappy singer and an absolute lunatic. I have no idea on her hockey skills. I didn’t mind Lazar as a player but he really doesn’t move the needle either way. I’m not sure why he was thrown in. It feels like Lazar for this chick and Hall for the 2nd. I would have gone straight up bidding “war” for Hall and left other players out of it. It was only a few more months we had him. If Boston wanted a 2nd forward I would have said “Sure, take Skinner and make that 2nd for Hall a 5th instead”. We’re done here. No way Boston takes on that bum but it would be worth a shot. I'm more bummed about Ullmark not signing because someone else will pay him. We might as well trade him too. We can still try to sign him back in the Summer. Losing him hurts as Ukka Pukka Bazooka or whatever his ridiculous name might be is clearly going nowhere after being in “the system” for the last 37 years. Edited April 12, 2021 by 4merper4mer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jauronimo Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 14 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: if this is true it completely changes my feelings on trading him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said: Crappy singer and an absolute lunatic. I have no idea on her hockey skills. I didn’t mind Lazar as a player but he really doesn’t move the needle either way. I’m not sure why he was thrown in. It feels like Lazar for this chick and Hall for the 2nd. I would have gone straight up bidding “war” for Hall and left other players out of it. It was only a few more months we had him. If Boston wanted a 2nd forward I would have said “Sure, take Skinner and make that 2nd for Hall a 5th instead”. We’re done here. No way Boston takes on that bum but it would be worth a shot. I'm more bummed about Ullmark not signing because someone else will pay him. We might as well trade him too. We can still try to sign him back in the Summer. Losing him hurts as Ukka Pukka Bazooka or whatever his ridiculous name might be is clearly going nowhere after being in “the system” for the last 37 years. I don’t really care that they traded Lazar either. My only issue is that this Bjork better be the better player, otherwise what was the point in swapping Lazar, who makes 1/2 as much as Bjork does next season? ($800K for Lazar. $1.6M for Bjork). Why double the salary if he’s not the better player? Seems like poor cap management. Looking at both of their stats, they look very comparable. and Bjork’s been in the NHL 4yrs now so I’m not sure how much room for development is left (not that the Sabres can develop players anyway...). 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Might as well keep trying to sign him I guess. Hopefully that rumor about him testing free agency was false, or just a leverage move by his agent. Seeing what Hall and Montour got moved for, I wouldn’t be at all confident that the Sabres would get more than a mid round pick back for Ullmark anyway, and who cares about an extra mid round pick in this (weak) draft, and especially since the Sabres don’t really even have a ******* scouting staff! 🤦♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 As much as general consensus among Sabres fans is we got fleeced, seeing some commentary from Bruins fans that they are concerned about adding Hall to their lineup with his team's history of under achievement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 39 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: I think they are gonna grossly overpay for Ullmark to stay. He’s good and I like him, but I don’t see an elite goalie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 https://theathletic.com/2513045/2021/04/12/nhl-trade-grades-bruins-win-taylor-hall-sweepstakes-and-give-up-alarmingly-little/ ‘NHL trade grades: Bruins win Taylor Hall sweepstakes and give up alarmingly little‘ Quote Dom Luszczyszyn: Considering the current market, where both Nick Foligno and David Savard command a first-round pick, and where a backup goaltender can net a third, it is unfathomable to think a former MVP only cost a second and a marginal NHLer. Hall has been a top-line talent throughout his career and though his value is not there this season, that’s almost entirely due to rotten shooting luck on the worst team in hockey. He still makes plays (he’s first in the league in high danger passing according to data tracked by Corey Sznajder), he still moves the puck up ice well (70 percent carry-in rate), and he still drives offence (top 20 in driving expected goals for). Hall has two goals in 37 games and that fact has been very publicized, but it only takes a limited amount of critical thinking to understand why. We see this time and time again — he’s not broken because he’s scoring on just 2.3 percent of his shots. He didn’t forget how to score, it’s an anomaly made worse by his surroundings. He’s a career 10 percent shooter and that’s much closer to what Boston should expect from him than what he did in Buffalo. The lack of finishing is concerning and his value has tanked, but it feels like Hall is being judged based on what people expect and not what he still can do. That and his teams always losing. That seems to be a major sticking point for many and is also total bull####. It is not Hall’s fault he was drafted by Edmonton, traded to New Jersey and then traded to Arizona. Buffalo was a very poor choice on top of that, but he wasn’t the guy who built the team he was joining. Boston is the first actually good team he’ll ever play for. The Bruins capitalized on an extreme buy-low opportunity, parting with very little for a player who at his very worst is a middle-six forward. By GSVA, Hall is playing at a one-win pace this year, despite scoring just two goals — that’s his floor. He’s projected to deliver 1.4 wins per 82 still, a top-six winger rate. And that’s with his most recent data being skewered by bad luck. His ceiling, once he remembers how to score, is still a top-line winger and he has shown enough to still be that. If he can get there with Boston, the deal can be a real steal. Hall is not the player he once was, but there are parts of his game that remain quite strong. He is still an elite play-maker and puck-mover. That still carries a ton of value and those inside hockey with access to better data than me have said similar things, confirming Sznajder’s tracked findings. He was the best forward available at his absolute floor. It’s more than reasonable to expect he’ll be significantly better in Boston, a much stronger team. It’s amazing a second is all it took (Curtis Lazar and Anders Bjork are a wash). And look, I get this was a difficult one for Buffalo. The optics around Hall aren’t great and his poor play this season didn’t make things easy. He has two goals this year, his point-rate is down, and his teams never win. But this is seriously the best Buffalo could do? Foligno just went for a first and a fourth and Hall only got them a second? In the worst season of Hall’s career, an epic disappointment, he is still out-scoring Foligno, not to mention his play-driving stats are stronger too. This is just as embarrassing for the other contending teams that couldn’t beat this offer, but the fact this happened a full 15 hours before the deadline is frankly pathetic for the Sabres. Sleep on it. Wait it out. There’s no way this tiny offer that will likely amount to nothing wasn’t going to be there in the morning. Moves like this are the reason Buffalo is in the basement every season. It doesn’t matter who’s in charge, they’ll find some way to mess it up. This is an awful return. Quote Bruins grade: A+ Sabres grade: F- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 55 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: https://theathletic.com/2513045/2021/04/12/nhl-trade-grades-bruins-win-taylor-hall-sweepstakes-and-give-up-alarmingly-little/ ‘NHL trade grades: Bruins win Taylor Hall sweepstakes and give up alarmingly little‘ A trade analysis made in a total vacuum by someone whom I’m willing to bet hasn’t watched much of Hall this season. He is a shadow of his former self. Good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Asplund and Mittelstadt have unreal shooting percentages right now at 33.3% and 20%, respectively. https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/BUF/index.html Then there's Hall and Eichel...🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 A. Bjork is an amazing musical talent. B. Those new Sabres whites may be the best sweater in the league right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsFan4 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 There are rumors going around that apparently Hall blocked a trade to a couple teams. Isles are one of the rumored teams (apparently they were ready to offer a similar package to the 1 they sent to NJ) and another unnamed wild card team (some saying it might’ve been the Blues). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I haven't posted in awhile. I know most don't want to believe it. I think this current run and the way they have been playing since the losing streak is more the real team. For some reason many seem to ignore the Covid situation but IMO it did a lot to th team. I think the after affects from it hurt a lot of players and with Ullmark out didn't help. The only good that came of it was firing Krueger. Since the losing streak ended they have played quite well. It's unfortunate many here only look at box scores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TBBills Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 15 hours ago, Jrb1979 said: I haven't posted in awhile. I know most don't want to believe it. I think this current run and the way they have been playing since the losing streak is more the real team. For some reason many seem to ignore the Covid situation but IMO it did a lot to th team. I think the after affects from it hurt a lot of players and with Ullmark out didn't help. The only good that came of it was firing Krueger. Since the losing streak ended they have played quite well. It's unfortunate many here only look at box scores. Can't use Covid as an excuse. The team is just garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, TBBills said: Can't use Covid as an excuse. The team is just garbage. This is why I stopped posting for awhile here. Too many box score Warriors. Bet most of you just look at the final score. I don't think they are garbage at all. I think they are a .500 team. I think the after affects from the guys getting Covid took a lot out of them. In the losing streak by the 3rd period many guys were out of gas. You probably never noticed as you just looked at the box score and never watched. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: This is why I stopped posting for awhile here. Too many box score Warriors. Bet most of you just look at the final score. I don't think they are garbage at all. I think they are a .500 team. I think the after affects from the guys getting Covid took a lot out of them. In the losing streak by the 3rd period many guys were out of gas. You probably never noticed as you just looked at the box score and never watched. You keep saying box score but don't actually talk about the team. They were not good even before Covid they were still below average in all scoring metrics at that time. Covid only affected them it seems... No excuse. Even across all sports Covid affected 1 hockey team... No they had a horrible GM and HC. They have a bad team full of players and no leadership. Edited April 14, 2021 by TBBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Saw it was for a herniated disc in his neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 46 minutes ago, Draconator said: Saw it was for a herniated disc in his neck. Well at least he wont be missing anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 47 minutes ago, TBBills said: Well at least he wont be missing anything. Maybe he gan be der guessed gommendaydor on 'Da Insdigadorz' dere! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Karmanos in the fold. This is a good thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beerball Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Draconator said: Saw it was for a herniated disc in his neck. Yup https://www.nhl.com/sabres/news/sabres-captain-jeck-eichel-to-miss-remainder-of-season-herniated-disc-neck-injury/c-323640040 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 This whole situation with the Canucks is crazy. Quote The Vancouver Canucks will hit the ice for practice Thursday morning and again for a pregame skate Friday. Friday night, they’ll host the Edmonton Oilers. And the very next day — with less than a 24-hour turnaround to accommodate the broadcast schedule — they’ll play the Toronto Maple Leafs. They’ll then proceed to play five games in seven days. Talk about a rude “welcome back” from the NHL. Not to mention the baffling acquiescence of the NHLPA. What remains of this ill-fated Canucks season will be played, and played in full. It just won’t be pretty, it won’t prioritize the gradual, humane recovery of the players and staff involved, and it probably won’t be remotely entertaining from a fan’s perspective. Nonetheless, the show will go on. The Canucks will return and face six sets of back-to-back games down the stretch, opening with a five in seven and nine in 14. On the heels of a COVID-19 outbreak that ran through a majority of the club’s players and coaching staff, infecting 25 members of the organization in total — some of whom got very ill, some of whom continue to feel ill effects and many of whom passed the illness along to their family members — the club will be tasked with playing 19 games in 31 days with only the narrowest hope of qualifying for the Stanley Cup playoffs. (continued in link) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: This whole situation with the Canucks is crazy. The NHL is a joke and should be sued for dereliction of duty when it comes to player safety. It’s more important to prevent any forfeiture of TV revenue in this compacted season than it is to prevent risk to players. We saw that with how they handled the Devils/Sabres game early on which led directly to our two week pause and subsequent consequences. I’m surprised the NHLPA hasn’t raised a stink with the league yet. To go from 10 days of quarantine to one practice and a pregame skate to playing the Oilers and Leafs immediately as part of a 5 games in 7 days grind is ludicrous. Not to mention grossly unfair. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) Sabres are playing some damn good hockey tonight against Washington. Bjork impressing me so far, too. Edited April 16, 2021 by BillsFan4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 5-2 Buffalo! Man, that was such a fun game to watch. It honestly reminded me of when the Sabres used to be a good/fun team to watch! They were constantly crashing the net and creating traffic + legitimate scoring chances. Attacking the Caps all night. Actually winning puck/board battles. Back checking hard. Super active sticks. Just an overall good, exciting brand of hockey. Im starting to like Donny Granato more by the day. I’m still not ready to say he should get the full time gig. But he (and Ellis + Girardi) are doing great things. Literally every young player is playing night&day better. Mittelstadt looks like he’s really coming into his own. Dahlin looks like Dahlin again. Joker looks great. Asplund. Bryson. They just need to bench Irwin and call up Samuelsson or another young guy. Also, I was way too quick to complain about that Bjork trade. He’s really impressed me. I’ll gladly eat crow if he keeps playing like this! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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