Minnesota Police disbanded

[Reality Check]

8 minutes ago, Beast said:

I really hope this happens.

 

I will sit on my deck, light a fine cigar,  sip some whiskey, smirk, and look forward to the absolute ***** show that will ensue in cities.

 

It will be delicious!

 

Then, can we please defund welfare?

It feels great doesn't it. Just stand back and say...WOW!

[Chef Jim]

19 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

The man your wife wishes you were.

 

4 weeks months training in most places. 

 

Tends to be why the dumbest lowlives and HS-drop outs fill the ranks, coast to coast.

Whoopsie. Busted. Anyway whatever. 
 

Back to this new age community protection team. Give us some ideas as to how they will operate. 
 

 

[Sig1Hunter]

24 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

What are the current requirements to become a police officer?

When I went through the academy in 2001 it was 7 months there, plus another 6 months of field training. 

[RiotAct]

40 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

Every conservative on this board insists they "aren't a conservative." 

They're libertarian. Or classical liberal.

They're not nazis. They just happen to ... yada yada yada. 

 

I don't care what you aren't. Say what you are.

 

 

Oh, I very much do. And I love that you cannot possibly conceive of how it is a very good idea.  All the Chicken Littles, I'm very much here for you. Please, please... show us your fear, you little chickadees. Tell us how badly you need the police. Tell me what you think they do.

Are you okay?

[Reality Check]

2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Whoopsie. Busted. Anyway whatever. 
 

Back to this new age community protection team. Give us some ideas as to how they will operate. 
 

 

 

 

This is the goal. 

 

 

 

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, RiotAct said:

Are you okay?

Nah. He’s off his rocker. Be nice to him. 

[Capco]

48 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

Yeah I don't care. Say what you are, then, or don't. I've seen every member on this PPP board do this little game — "I'm not a conservative. I just vote Republican on every thing except maybe one or two issues. I'm a real independent." 

 

Well if you're here on this board, and you're comfortable.... yeah, you are. 

 

Seems like being a conservative / racist / Republican / good ol boy has become so shameful, nobody admits to it anymore

 

For real though man, I don't think Crayola is a right winger.  Pretty sure I've liked some of his posts in the past iirc.  

 

I get your point but in this case I don't think it applies to him if memory serves me well.  I might be mixing him up with another C-named poster though.  

[Numark3]

1 minute ago, Capco said:

 

For real though man, I don't think Crayola is a right winger.  Pretty sure I've liked some of his posts in the past iirc.  

 

I get your point but in this case I don't think it applies to him if memory serves me well.  I might be mixing him up with another C-named poster though.  

im a pretty big lefty, and will reluctantly vote Biden. 

[bilzfancy]

5 minutes ago, Crayola64 said:

im a pretty big lefty, and will reluctantly vote Biden. 

You are very civil to those who may disagree with you, and I respect that

[fansince88]

49 minutes ago, Penfield45 said:

about damn time. hopefully this sets a trend to major cities. 

 

disband police and start from scratch. train and educate people on matters of the law and stop recruiting folks who could. barely pass high school. it takes more schooling to become a hair stylist than it does to be a police officer in america. let that sink in. 

Saw that post on Facebook  today. That exact same verbage but in picture form. Better choose a better place for your information. My wife babysits for a NYS Trooper and Border Patrol wife husband team. She has a Master's  Degree and 8 months of Trooper School then 1 year of OJT. He has 12 years in the military and 5 months of school for BP and 1 year of OJT. Both were seperated from their families for that time. 

5 minutes ago, Crayola64 said:

im a pretty big lefty, and will reluctantly vote Biden. 

You say reluctantly.  Explain?  

[whatdrought]

1 hour ago, Foxx said:

allow me, you're an idiot.

Beat me too it.

 

[Capco]

6 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

You say reluctantly.  Explain?  

 

If he's anything like me, he's pissed that the DNC shafted Bernie again but would still rather have Biden over Trump.  

[Reality Check]

 

Just now, Capco said:

 

If he's anything like me, he's pissed that the DNC shafted Bernie again but would still rather have Biden over Trump.  

Yep. Bernie took it up the wazoo once again, and the commies are throwing a tantrum.

[fansince88]

Just now, Capco said:

 

If he's anything like me, he's pissed that the DNC shafted Bernie again but would still rather have Biden over Trump.  

Thanks but would love his reply. That said, what about Biden is better? 

[Reality Check]

1 minute ago, fansince88 said:

Thanks but would love his reply. That said, what about Biden is better? 

Smoother hands?

[fansince88]

Just now, Reality Check said:

Smoother hands?

Haha! And that gentle nibble on the ear.

[The Guy In Pants]

4 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

Thanks but would love his reply. That said, what about Biden is better? 

 

Not a damn thing other than his reputation with the very people we are seeing we can’t trust now.

[Reality Check]

2 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

Haha! And that gentle nibble on the ear.

Plus he is tough on crime.

 

 

 

[Capco]

1 minute ago, fansince88 said:

Thanks but would love his reply. That said, what about Biden is better? 

 

Sorry I was just bored waiting for dinner (Italian sausage and pasta btw, @Sig1Hunter ?) and used that opportunity to butt in.  

 

To answer you in the simplest terms, I'm voting for Biden because he is the more left-leaning candidate.  Every presidential election I've voted in since 2008 (I became eligible in 2007) has been on that premise.  I'm a lefty.  

[GregPersons]

14 minutes ago, Capco said:

If he's anything like me, he's pissed that the DNC shafted Bernie again but would still rather have Biden over Trump.  

 

Yes, Bernie would've been the better candidate, no doubt, and he wasn't given a fair shake in either primary. That's a separate issue. But I will say that Bernie would not have been much better leading this moment (better, yes; much better, no). His handling of race was never his strongest suit, and his inability to successfully persuade Black America sank the nomination as much as DNC/corporate interference. 

 

This is something that goes beyond any one presidential term. Ferguson was under Obama, and his response to that also sucked. That doesn't excuse Trump for being worse, just that he's not the only source of the problem. 

[fansince88]

3 minutes ago, Capco said:

 

Sorry I was just bored waiting for dinner (Italian sausage and pasta btw, @Sig1Hunter ?) and used that opportunity to butt in.  

 

To answer you in the simplest terms, I'm voting for Biden because he is the more left-leaning candidate.  Every presidential election I've voted in since 2008 (I became eligible in 2007) has been on that premise.  I'm a lefty.  

Thanks for the complete honesty. I lean right. Guns God and Country for me. Have been moving slightly libertarian lately but jist cant grasp it 100%

[dpberr]

Community policing or COPS was all the rage in LA post 1992.  It's not that it hasn't been tried across the US and it's had success in places.

 

It's just an awful lot of political will, work and money, and it takes years. If the people driving it leave, or are replaced by more Parker/Gates theorists, it can disappear as quickly as it arrives.

 

Do the police need reform? Yes, nationwide. For at least 50 years now.

 

Would I disbanded local law enforcement in a pandemic/civil unrest/election year?

 

No. I'm not that rash. You're putting all your residents in a lot of unnecessary danger, and I wouldn't want to give these governors or this President an excuse to send in the troops.

[bilzfancy]

1 minute ago, fansince88 said:

Thanks for the complete honesty. I lean right. Guns God and Country for me. Have been moving slightly libertarian lately but jist cant grasp it 100%

That's pretty much where I'm at, live and let live, smaller government and states rights.

[Cinga]

1 hour ago, Reality Check said:

These new super leftists on here are the best versions yet. This new material is fascinating. I just love propaganda.

Yeah, but who is the stupid F*** that's write this sh1t for them?

[GregPersons]

4 minutes ago, dpberr said:

Community policing or COPS was all the rage in LA post 1992.  It's not that it hasn't been tried across the US and it's had success in places.

 

It's just an awful lot of political will, work and money, and it takes years. If the people driving it leave, or are replaced by more Parker/Gates theorists, it can disappear as quickly as it arrives.

 

Do the police need reform? Yes, nationwide. For at least 50 years now.

 

Would I disbanded local law enforcement in a pandemic/civil unrest/election year?

 

No. I'm not that rash. You're putting all your residents in a lot of unnecessary danger, and I wouldn't want to give these governors or this President an excuse to send in the troops.

 

Minnesota isn't eliminating the rule of law. The idea is that the emergency services supplied by the police can & will be replaced with more effective methods.

 

You are right that community policing is a lot of work and a lot of effort, but as you also note, it is very overdue.

 

6 minutes ago, bilzfancy said:

That's pretty much where I'm at, live and let live, smaller government and states rights.

 

Based on those principles, you should be enthusiastically in favor of what Minnesota is doing. Right?

[meazza]

1 hour ago, Crayola64 said:

im not conservative, and who knows what you are besides a troll.  This is a very dumb idea that will never happen, and if Minneapolis attempts to do it, the process of implementing it will fail.

 

You are now!

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, GregPersons said:

 

Yep, that's the thing people have issue with! The name!

 

You guys are smart!

 

 

Well that went right over your head. You’re not very smart are you. 

2 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

Minnesota isn't eliminating the rule of law. The idea is that the emergency services supplied by the police can & will be replaced with more effective methods.

What are these methods and what will make them more effective?  

[GregPersons]

6 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Well that went right over your head. You’re not very smart are you. 

What are these methods and what will make them more effective?  

 

Stay tuned! History is being written as we speak. If you can't stand the uncertainty, take a nap and check back in after the grown-ups figure it all out for ya.

 

Or if you're looking for some of the ideas already out there, I have a great resource for you. 

[Cinga]

1 minute ago, GregPersons said:

 

Stay tuned! History is being written as we speak. If you can't stand the uncertainty, take a nap and check back in after the grown-ups figure it all out for ya.

 

Or if you're looking for some of the ideas already out there, I have a great resource for you. 

Perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

So then, you have no answers either huh?

[fansince88]

8 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Well that went right over your head. You’re not very smart are you. 

What are these methods and what will make them more effective?  

We are dealing with a ticking time bomb here.

[GregPersons]

1 minute ago, Cinga said:

Perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

So then, you have no answers either huh?

 

Well, I'm not in charge of anything in Minnesota. I have ideas and speculation, but no, I can't give you "answers." 

 

This is what's funny about y'all, you were so sure that history was "over" and all of the great thinkers already came and went, you've spent so long jerking off to same couple of white guys and the only political theory you've ever read, you couldn't possibly conceive of a reality where there are no "answers." Only "problems" and "complications" and "ideas" and "solutions."

 

Childish worldview.

4 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

We are dealing with a ticking time bomb here.

 

Tick, tick!

[Chef Jim]

6 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

Stay tuned! History is being written as we speak. If you can't stand the uncertainty, take a nap and check back in after the grown-ups figure it all out for ya.

 

Or if you're looking for some of the ideas already out there, I have a great resource for you. 

So you have no ideas about how this is going to work. Just as long as we get rid of those Nazis, Racist Pigs right?  

[Cinga]

Just now, GregPersons said:

This is what's funny about y'all

Your a fu**ing racist aren't you? 

[Numark3]

59 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said:

 

But one possessed of most of his faculties, it seems.

I wouldn’t go that far lol

 

 

 

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Replacing the police with a local organization from the community that is in charge of enforcing the law???

 

sounds like the police

 

 

Edited June 8, 2020 by Crayola64

[outsidethebox]

Let liberals run the country, They've done such a great job in the major cities.

[Cinga]

3 minutes ago, Crayola64 said:

I wouldn’t go that far lol

 

 

 

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Replacing the police with a local organization from the community that is in charge of enforcing the law???

 

sounds like the police

 

 

 

I guess it could depend on what law they are enforcing... 

[Doc]

Do it Minneapolis and be the guinea pig for the rest of the country/world.  We'll see that it still won't help improve the situation for black people, but at least it will be one fewer talking point.

[RocCityRoller]

1 hour ago, Reality Check said:

 

 

This is the goal. 

 

 

 

Not sure the 3rd wave feminists will be happy with this.

 

I'm a middle aged guy with a beard and no strong religious convictions, I would be aok.

[JESSEFEFFER]

2 hours ago, bilzfancy said:

I am a conservative but no chicken little, after Nam I fear nothing anymore for me personally

I rewatched Ken Burns' Vietnam documentary back in January but made the mistake of binge watching it.  It was overwhelmingly, depressingly educational.  Too much so to do without some recovery between.   That was the depth of how screwed up things could get and how poor leadership can get us there.  

 

Thank goodness despite what some wish to say, we aren't near that level of fubar yet.

Edited June 8, 2020 by JESSEFEFFER

[bilzfancy]

1 minute ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

I rewatched Ken Burns' Vietnam documentary back in January but made the mistake of binge watching it.  It was overwhelmingly, depressingly educational.  Too much so to do without some recovery between.   That was the depth of how screwed up things could get and how poor leadership can lead us there.  

 

Thank goodness despite what some wish to say, we aren't near that level of fubar yet.

Hopefully never again