NFL testing helmet masks?

[muppy]

16 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said:

Von Miller yells at others who don’t mask up. I bet he also wears a mask when driving on his own. Who do you think is paying him for his “opinion”?

Noone ? seriously I would guess that someone who had personally experienced covid-19 would not want to catch it again which has been proven possible especially due to his having asthma as a preceding medical condition. Do you believe otherwise?

[Sherlock Holmes]

1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

so now the masks don’t prevent virus cells BUT they restrict oxygen Atoms. 

 

freelance scientists are lovely. 

You definitely aren't getting the same oxygen intake and CO2 release as not wearing a mask...

[RiotAct]

looking forward to McDermott clapping furiously on the sideline while wearing an N95

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

5 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

You definitely aren't getting the same oxygen intake and CO2 release as not wearing a mask...

and at a significant enough level to exacerbate  cardio vascular issues? 

 

Dig deeper Watson 

[Sherlock Holmes]

1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

and at a significant enough level to exacerbate  cardio vascular issues? 

 

Dig deeper Watson 

This is very feasible... 

Why would players be able to remove the mask during the game at all if they are near their own teammates and coaches and personnel? Why would it be only contact with the opposite team?

 

So keep the mask on the entire game, especially on these OL and DTs who have a hard time breathing as it is during normal game conditions and see what happens...

[RiotAct]

1 minute ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

This is very feasible... 

Why would players be able to remove the mask during the game at all if they are near their own teammates and coaches and personnel? Why would it be only contact with the opposite team?

 

So keep the mask on the entire game, especially on these OL and DTs who have a hard time breathing as it is during normal game conditions and see what happens...

Safety first!

[The Dean]

For s#it's sake, NOT the face masks many of you are thinking of. Helmets already have face masks, They are talking about putting some kind of covering on them (think "shield" not mask),. 

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-testing-n95-surgical-mask-material-on-modified-face-masks-in-hopes-of-fighting-covid-19-spread/

 

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The NFL is doing their part and reportedly testing helmets that include face masks with surgical or N95 material.  According to the NFL Players Association's medical director Thom Mayer, NFL engineers and Oakley, who are under contract to make all face visors for the league, are working together to make prototypes that could be used for the 2020 season. 

 

 

Is this really that confusing to you guys?

[Meatloaf63]

6 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

I can have an opinion on the foundation of my house but I am going to trust a building inspector. My opinion and Google skills are worthless when it comes to assessing my foundation compared to what a building inspector things. 

Not always true, building inspectors can be wrong and it’s pretty simple to google local and state codes. A structural engineer would be a better example...

[Sherlock Holmes]

2 minutes ago, The Dean said:

For s#it's sake, NOT the face masks many of you are thinking of. Helmets already have face masks, They are talking about putting some kind of covering on them (think "shield" not mask),. 

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-testing-n95-surgical-mask-material-on-modified-face-masks-in-hopes-of-fighting-covid-19-spread/

 

 

 

Is this really that confusing to you guys?

Why yes, yes it is...

[Mr. WEO]

5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

This kind of takes me aback.  If I thought I had 10% chance of death or serious harm at work...I would for reals find a new job, pronto!

 

I think the risk that this age group (football players) have for death is very very low assuming full access to the very best medical care.  Probably <0.01%.  I'm getting that from a Lancet study saying that 1% of those in their 20s that are diagnosed need hospitalization, and that the case fatality ratio in that age group is low, 0.3%. 

But for serious harm, I don't think we have any hard data yet.  HCW are too busy putting out the fires and looking at the highest risks for the worst outcomes (death) to put a number around morbidity, the risk of stroke, lung damage, and significant deterioration in physical condition.  Let's guess that almost all the 1% who are hospitalized are at risk for this, so 1% chance that if you get the disease, you may suffer significant impairment to your "money maker", your physical toolset.    You may face a prolonged rehab period to get close to what you were.

Are you thinking that players be like "1%?  Man that's puny, LETSGO!"?

 

 

 

 

They are all agreeing to play a sport that has, I bet, more than a 1% chance that they will suffer premature debilitating physical or neurological disease.  It would  be odd, to me, that they would be overly concerned of contracting COVID to the degree that they would be on a ventilator at risk or dying---which is less than 1% for sure in their age/condition group.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

9 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

They are all agreeing to play a sport that has, I bet, more than a 1% chance that they will suffer premature debilitating physical or neurological disease.  It would  be odd, to me, that they would be overly concerned of contracting COVID to the degree that they would be on a ventilator at risk or dying---which is less than 1% for sure in their age/condition group.

 

So we'll put you down for players be like "1%?  Man that's puny, LETSGO!"

You might be right.

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

So we'll put you down for players be like "1%?  Man that's puny, LETSGO!"

 

lol.

 

the point is that these guys have already fully accepted a higher risk of permanent injury, physically and mentally.  Therefore it  is ironic that they or their employer would be expending so much energy and concern that they might catch a virus that nearly all of them would be asymptomatic from.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

lol.

 

the point is that these guys have already fully accepted a higher risk of permanent injury, physically and mentally.  Therefore it  is ironic that they or their employer would be expending so much energy and concern that they might catch a virus that nearly all of them would be asymptomatic from.

 

Ironic?  Not Hardly.  The difference is a future (dim misty) risk of neurological disease affects only them, whereas a (current) contagious disease is something you can bring home to your wife or girlfriend or family.  Also, many of these guys come from communities that are being disproportionately affected.  Many of their aunts and uncles and cousins are the ones who are still working in health care settings or essential businesses. 

 

Von Miller didn't sound that unconcerned (link above), after what was evidently a mild case that left him "worried" for 4-5 days and cost him 17 days off training and off his food, but he could be an atypical player in more than talent.  That's the other thing - a bad case can affect their "money maker", their body.  Most of them take their bodies very seriously.

 

If I were guessing, I would guess that you're right, overall, most of the players aren't taking it too seriously. 

 

That doesn't mean they shouldn't take it seriously.  And it certainly doesn't make it "ironic"

11 hours ago, Buffalo619 said:

Von Miller yells at others who don’t mask up. I bet he also wears a mask when driving on his own. Who do you think is paying him for his “opinion”?

 

WTF, man, Von Miller always comes across as a smart, together guy.  He just had the disease and said it's still affecting his lungs.

Why would one thing someone is paying him for his opinion when it's something he went through and is still working back from?

Why put opinion in quotes?  Skepticism isn't a bad thing, but "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar".

 

I think you'd lose your bet since the quote was that he told the people they should get in their car before they took off their mask.

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Ironic?  Not Hardly.  The difference is a future (dim misty) risk of neurological disease affects only them, whereas a (current) contagious disease is something you can bring home to your wife or girlfriend or family.  Also, many of these guys come from communities that are being disproportionately affected.  Many of their aunts and uncles and cousins are the ones who are still working in health care settings or essential businesses. 

 

Von Miller didn't sound that unconcerned (link above), after what was evidently a mild case that left him "worried" for 4-5 days and cost him 17 days off training and off his food, but he could be an atypical player in more than talent.  That's the other thing - a bad case can affect their "money maker", their body.  Most of them take their bodies very seriously.

 

If I were guessing, I would guess that you're right, overall, most of the players aren't taking it too seriously. 

 

That doesn't mean they shouldn't take it seriously.  And it certainly doesn't make it "ironic"

 

 

 

Few of them are living in such communities now.

 

Front line workers making a fraction of the money just put on a mask and go to work.  Wegmans is packed with people with little to no social distancing--and none of these employers is testing any employee or anyone they come in contact with, let alone testing them regularly,such as is the plan for these players.  So from line workers aren't moved by a millionaire athlete's "4-5 days of worry".

 

Again, The risk of contracting the disease, assuming even modest precautions, is low.  The risk of becoming seriously ill by contracting the disease is extremely low--lower than the risk of serious harm they already accept at work, so it is ironic for sure.  As for their families, players can self quarantine, like other workers at (actual, significant) risk of exposure do.

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

10 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

You definitely aren't getting the same oxygen intake and CO2 release as not wearing a mask...

 

I don't believe that's true, even of an N95 mask that makes a positive seal to the face.  And I speak as someone who has worn professionally fit tested masks at times and who lives with an industrial safety professional who used to issue "confined space" permits so knows a lot about the effect of oxygen and CO2 levels on oxygen INTAKE and CO2 RELEASE.

 

CO2 is present in the atmosphere at a level of about 0.04%. It is dangerous in an atmosphere when it is greater than about 10% - that's 250x buildup to become dangerous.

 

Oxygen is present in the atmosphere at about 20% at sea level and 14% at 10,000 feet.  People can get the same oxygen INTAKE and CO2 RELEASE in both situations.

 

So even if the tightest sealing masks change the % of oxygen and CO2 somewhat inside the mask, they normally don't change your INTAKE or RELEASE.

 

The people who can't wear masks or who have trouble with them, are the people with diminished lung function or capacity.  Normal people actually get the same INTAKE and RELEASE.  This can be shown by monitoring blood gas levels of mask wearers, which was done when the masks were being developed.

 

What is true is that you have to WORK harder to get that same oxygen intake and CO2 release.  It's perceptible.  It leads to a feeling of fatigue greater than if you were doing the same work and not wearing a mask.  It sucks.  So if you're in a position of trying to deliver peak human athletic performance, your peak human performance is going to fall off, due to fatigue.

Be that as it may - Moot point here.  As I understand the proposal, it's not to put actual positive sealing masks on the players, it's to somehow integrate mask material with the face mask.

 

 

 

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

22 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I don't believe that's true, even of an N95 mask that makes a positive seal to the face.  And I speak as someone who has worn professionally fit tested masks at times and who lives with an industrial safety professional who used to issue "confined space" permits so knows a lot about the effect of oxygen and CO2 levels on oxygen INTAKE and CO2 RELEASE.

 

CO2 is present in the atmosphere at a level of about 0.04%. It is dangerous in an atmosphere when it is greater than about 10% - that's 250x buildup to become dangerous.

 

Oxygen is present in the atmosphere at about 20% at sea level and 14% at 10,000 feet.  People can get the same oxygen INTAKE and CO2 RELEASE in both situations.

 

So even if the tightest sealing masks change the % of oxygen and CO2 somewhat inside the mask, they normally don't change your INTAKE or RELEASE.

 

The people who can't wear masks or who have trouble with them, are the people with diminished lung function or capacity.  Normal people actually get the same INTAKE and RELEASE.  This can be shown by monitoring blood gas levels of mask wearers, which was done when the masks were being developed.

 

What is true is that you have to WORK harder to get that same oxygen intake and CO2 release.  It's perceptible.  It leads to a feeling of fatigue greater than if you were doing the same work and not wearing a mask.  It sucks.  So if you're in a position of trying to deliver peak human athletic performance, your peak human performance is going to fall off, due to fatigue.

Be that as it may - Moot point here.  As I understand the proposal, it's not to put actual positive sealing masks on the players, it's to somehow integrate mask material with the face mask.

 

 

 

 

Good points, my issue was making them work harder to deal with getting oxygen and releasing CO2. I'm curious to watch some Denver home games with masks. I'm sure they are going to be using minimal impact materials though. Still curiosity peaked especially in Miami and Denver!

[transient]

I have more concern for the coaches. They’re the ones that are more likely to be older and in poor health. If someone dies from this it’s not likely to be a 20-something athlete In peak physical condition, it’s going to be a sleep deprived, junk food driven, out of shape coach. 

[JGMcD2]

16 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Interesting!  Thank you for finding this.  Two key take-aways for me is that Miller evidently had a relatively mild case, but needed to take a total of 17 days off from training!!!!!  He thinks everyone needs to be tested every day.    Also he thinks that people could attend, if they are spaced out. 

 

Q: You play a cardiovascular sport that requires conditioning and burst. What concerns do you have about long-term lung damage?

A: Taking 17 days off and then trying to get back into it, I really feel it. I still feel my lungs trying to get back in shape. It’s just all the wear and tear that it puts on your lungs. I’ve got asthma on top of that, so to try to run with asthma and then try to run after the coronavirus, that’s what I think some of the shortness of breath comes from. (....)

Q: The NFL is bracing for team facilities to reopen and seems to be charging ahead as if the 2020 season will happen as scheduled. If you were the commissioner, knowing the severity of the virus’s effects, how would you push forward?

A: If I was Commissioner Miller, I would take notes from the other leagues that are starting up before us. We got soccer coming up in Europe, and they’re going to do mass testing. That’s what we have to do. Every day we need to test all the players. It’s got to be part of the routine.

If one person gets this and it goes undetected, then that’s eight. Let’s say [Broncos wide receiver] Courtland Sutton gets tackled and he has the virus. Now you got the other team; they have the virus. I want to make sure all the players and all the staff and everybody coaching and everybody in the front office gets tested every day.

Also, if a stadium holds 65,000 people, they might cut it down to about 16,000 people and [spread people] out across the stadium. Everybody is going to have spaces to watch the game. Then you can get some of the real-life feel back, the real-life football back. (.....)

Q: Hundreds of people work at NFL team facilities. Would you be nervous to go back to work right now?

A: Yeah, and everybody’s got to stay masked up. I want to be safe. I want to make sure I can still deliver football to the fans, but I want to do it as safe as possible. I'm not cutting any corners when it comes to that.

 

 

Von Miller also has asthma... so I’d bet that was in a factor in it take 17 days for him to get back into the swing of things. 
 

Everyone is going to be different. I’ve heard from people in the NFL Offices that the season is going to go on and they will have fans in states that allow it. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

18 hours ago, MJS said:

I think it would have to be more like a face shield rather than n95 masks. The masks can be kind of difficult to breath through and if you have football players in high exertion, breathing heavily, I don't think it is feasible.

 

Does sweat pass the virus, or is it only respiratory droplets?

 

Good question on sweat.  It's certainly not a transmission mode I've seen discussed.  Primary worry: respiratory droplets (as virus likes to reproduce in lungs and nasal airway), mucus.  Blood of course.  Virus has been found in poop, so fecal transmission not proven but could be a thing.

 

I wouldn't rule it out, because the receptor the virus binds to (ACE2) is found in epithelial cells throughout the body, and I'm not sure anyone has looked specifically at sweat glands yet to see if they express the second protein that facilitates infection (TMPRSS2). 

Overall I would say if you're close enough that sweat is a factor, you're also close enough that getting snorked and hauked on is happening, so could be moot point.

 

36 minutes ago, transient said:

I have more concern for the coaches. They’re the ones that are more likely to be older and in poor health. If someone dies from this it’s not likely to be a 20-something athlete In peak physical condition, it’s going to be a sleep deprived, junk food driven, out of shape coach. 

 

True dat.  But players may have homies or family members that fit the same profile as coaches.  And as discussed, I think focus on death may miss the point - even a mild disease can apparently knock a healthy Von Miller on his butt for 3+ weeks.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

19 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

Von Miller also has asthma... so I’d bet that was in a factor in it take 17 days for him to get back into the swing of things. 
 

Everyone is going to be different. I’ve heard from people in the NFL Offices that the season is going to go on and they will have fans in states that allow it. 

 

True....but I wouldn't bet the rent money that it's the major factor in it taking a long time to recover.  Plenty stories from young people without asthma who found their bout with covid-19 prolonged debilitating, and "full recovery" for a top elite athlete is surely a different matter than "full recovery" for Sally or Sammy Store Shopper.

 

And despite early (and logical) concerns, asthma is not turning up as a risk factor to the point where its absence is noted in several studies as "striking".  Hypertension seems to be the bad-boy and uncontrolled >>> controlled.
 

I would love to see football this Fall.  I hope it happens.

 

 

18 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

the material would have to extend from below the neck and under the pads all the way around the helmet or else there's no point.

 

Not sure that's true, but that's just based on thinking about it.  My guess is that whoever is trialing this, isn't planning on blockage, just on reduction.  It's possible that something that fit in around the jawline and extended around to in front of the ears and up as high as the cheekbones could help, especially in conjunction with the helmet eye shields some of the players already wear. 

 

The whole thing just seems farfetched to me, given the intrinsic violence of football.

[Mr. WEO]

14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

True....but I wouldn't bet the rent money that it's the major factor in it taking a long time to recover.  Plenty stories from young people without asthma who found their bout with covid-19 prolonged debilitating, and "full recovery" for a top elite athlete is surely a different matter than "full recovery" for Sally or Sammy Store Shopper.

 

 

 

 

Yes, but mainly that difference is financial.  Once the season starts and elite NFL athlete doesn't feel up to playing, he gets his millions to stay home and stay safe.

[transient]

10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

True dat.  But players may have homies or family members that fit the same profile as coaches.  And as discussed, I think focus on death may miss the point - even a mild disease can apparently knock a healthy Von Miller on his butt for 3+ weeks.

I'm not sure how they'll do it, and maybe I'm a naive extremist, but I'm assuming their solution is going to have to involve some aspect of "deployment" that limits teams' contact with the outside world to lessen the likelihood of the NFL season being derailed from outside exposure and also lessen any liability from internal exposure. While players and coaches are not likely to appreciate it, I would assume it's probably going to involve limited contact with friends and family.  I suspect ultimately it will come down to players and coaches accepting the terms of the modifications and individual risks, or having some other option for individuals to opt out of the season.

 

As far as the time missed, they're going to have to approach it like an injury. 3+ weeks for a high ankle sprain or a covid infection. It will just be a question of who a player takes with him to the injury report.

 

It will be interesting to see what the "solution" is. I suspect it will leave an asterisk in the record books if the season goes forward, kind of like a strike shortened season. If someone tests positive, depending on how they address proximity in locker rooms, wouldn't you have to quarantine a whole team for some length of time?  What happens then? Reschedule a game? Forfeit?

 

In my mind, all of this has a high likelihood of being a giant experimental exhibition season, which will be "all fun and games until someone loses an eye."

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

lol.

 

the point is that these guys have already fully accepted a higher risk of permanent injury, physically and mentally.  Therefore it  is ironic that they or their employer would be expending so much energy and concern that they might catch a virus that nearly all of them would be asymptomatic from.

Optics

[EasternOHBillsFan]

Based upon the high risk that football poses due to proximity to others and the number of coaches and players on a team, only a vaccine is going to be the option for the NFL. All of these adaptations won't fully mitigate the very real concerns, and all it will take is one coach or player (or family member of either or both!) to fall due to COVID-19 and the whole season shuts down.

 

I honestly don't know how the NFL Players Association leadership signs off on this... but if they do, buckle up for justifiable lawsuits if it goes south. The NFL isn't the XFL... they have the luxury of going slowly here.

Edited May 22, 2020 by EasternOHBillsFan

[LeGOATski]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Not sure that's true, but that's just based on thinking about it.  My guess is that whoever is trialing this, isn't planning on blockage, just on reduction.  It's possible that something that fit in around the jawline and extended around to in front of the ears and up as high as the cheekbones could help, especially in conjunction with the helmet eye shields some of the players already wear. 

 

The whole thing just seems farfetched to me, given the intrinsic violence of football.

I was thinking more outside the box. It just doesn't seem reasonable for players to wear a typical mask right up against their faces while exerting the effort it takes to play.

[Mr. WEO]

18 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

Based upon the high risk that football poses due to proximity to others and the number of coaches and players on a team, only a vaccine is going to be the option for the NFL. All of these adaptations won't fully mitigate the very real concerns, and all it will take is one coach or player (or family member of either or both!) to fall due to COVID-19 and the whole season shuts down.

 

I honestly don't know how the NFL Players Association leadership signs off on this... but if they do, buckle up for justifiable lawsuits if it goes south. The NFL isn't the XFL... they have the luxury of going slowly here.

 

There won't be a vaccine soon enough, so clearly they aren't waiting.  Players willingly accepting risk where the risk is obvious and all reasonable measures are openly being made to mitigate the risks will preclude most lawsuits I would think.

 

They want their players to get paid.

 

NFLPA has been fine with steroids, HGH, etc.....pretty much any new PED testing has at one time or another been resisted by the union.  While railing against the league's handling of CTE, the players resist meaning changes such as helmet redesign.  They turn a blind eye to dirty hits that never cease and routinely appeal fines and suspensions for their cheap shots. They make a lot of noise about player safety when they feel it's in their best interest, but mainly the union's goal is to allow their members to do what they want to maximize their earnings.  Standard stuff.

 

The only players who have clearly demonstrated their true concerns with the safety of the game are those who have walked away from it.  

Edited May 22, 2020 by Mr. WEO

[Figster]

Some materials such as polypropylene collect electrons and become negatively charged which may repel the surface of the negatively charged coronavirus IMO. Polypropelene fabric is also water repellent.

 

Its possible a more breathable protection/ solution can be found for athletes IMO.

 

 

[Don Otreply]

Any person involved in a high end aerobic exercise like a professional athlete does will not be able to intake required air/oxygen and exhale with a fitted mask without it diminishing performance dramatically.   If you don’t believe me put on a basic dust mast snuggly and run  forty to sixty yards at full gas a couple of times. 
 

  The best they might hope for is to keep the spit and spray down to a dull roar by lining the inside of the cage, but that could restrict visibility when an athlete is looking downward without tipping their head. Should be entertaining to see the athletes response to such a devise. 

[Irv]

[LeGOATski]

4 hours ago, Irv said:

Actually closer to what it would need to be...rather than a cloth mask....lol

[The Dean]

5 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

Any person involved in a high end aerobic exercise like a professional athlete does will not be able to intake required air/oxygen and exhale with a fitted mask without it diminishing performance dramatically.   If you don’t believe me put on a basic dust mast snuggly and run  forty to sixty yards at full gas a couple of times. 
 

  The best they might hope for is to keep the spit and spray down to a dull roar by lining the inside of the cage, but that could restrict visibility when an athlete is looking downward without tipping their head. Should be entertaining to see the athletes response to such a devise. 

 

Once again, they are NOT talking about a fitted mask.

 

5 hours ago, Irv said:

 

 

As crazy as this sounds, this is actually closer to what they are talking about than a fitted mask. Special cloth spread over the existing face mask, creating a shield. 

[Don Otreply]

54 minutes ago, The Dean said:

 

Once again, they are NOT talking about a fitted mask.

 

 

 

As crazy as this sounds, this is actually closer to what they are talking about than a fitted mask. Special cloth spread over the existing face mask, creating a shield. 

Yes I agree,  ? I stated the very thing in my post about fitting something to the cage to catch spit etc. and no I did not read every post ?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 hours ago, Irv said:

 

Player acceptance of this device should be high, especially among players who'd like to project that Bad Ass image.

I can see linemen (both sides of the ball), linebackers, and running backs in particular wanting this thing.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

8 hours ago, Irv said:

I posted a Vader helmet pages back but on my mobile I can’t see it.  
 

not the same one. 

[Paulus]

Baklavas would be an easy fix. 

 

 

 

Edited May 23, 2020 by Paulus

[Radar]

On 5/21/2020 at 2:12 PM, keepthefaith said:

Dumb.  Test the players a couple times per week. 

Problem is by the time you get a positive they've already spread the disease.

 

[Ralonzo]

1 hour ago, Paulus said:

Baklavas would be an easy fix. 

 

 

Eh. Seems messy. Yiayia would not approve.

 

 

 

[Paulus]

33 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Eh. Seems messy. Yiayia would not approve.

 

 

 

balaclava*

 

I did include a pic. 

 

F****** stupid food.

[RiotAct]

On 5/22/2020 at 10:07 PM, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

I posted a Vader helmet pages back but on my mobile I can’t see it.  
 

not the same one. 

Hey, I met that guy!

 

[Ga boy]

On 5/22/2020 at 10:35 AM, transient said:

I'm not sure how they'll do it, and maybe I'm a naive extremist, but I'm assuming their solution is going to have to involve some aspect of "deployment" that limits teams' contact with the outside world to lessen the likelihood of the NFL season being derailed from outside exposure and also lessen any liability from internal exposure. While players and coaches are not likely to appreciate it, I would assume it's probably going to involve limited contact with friends and family.  I suspect ultimately it will come down to players and coaches accepting the terms of the modifications and individual risks, or having some other option for individuals to opt out of the season.

 

As far as the time missed, they're going to have to approach it like an injury. 3+ weeks for a high ankle sprain or a covid infection. It will just be a question of who a player takes with him to the injury report.

 

It will be interesting to see what the "solution" is. I suspect it will leave an asterisk in the record books if the season goes forward, kind of like a strike shortened season. If someone tests positive, depending on how they address proximity in locker rooms, wouldn't you have to quarantine a whole team for some length of time?  What happens then? Reschedule a game? Forfeit?

 

In my mind, all of this has a high likelihood of being a giant experimental exhibition season, which will be "all fun and games until someone loses an eye."

I would think they would be tested daily.  By August there should be quick test.  If guy is positive he is quarantined until he is tested negative.  It seems that Korean baseball is working.  I think NFL will make it work with mask protection and testing process.  Go Bills!