Gugny Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) Lamar Jackson worked out with Antonio Brown and Marquise Brown in Florida. People can stop busting my balls for calling Jackson a moron now. The other two are just as dumb. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/01/antonio-brown-among-lamar-jacksons-workout-receivers/ Edited April 2, 2020 by Gugny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 More than one moron in that pic 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 So much for social distancing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: More than one moron in that pic Absolutely. Editing now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Well, they have been all touching the same balls right... Couldn't they spread it that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 And the 13 on the wonderlic starts to make more sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) I get social distancing, but its not like 3 people that don't have it can suddenly infect each other. If they have been properly self-isolating and don't have symptoms then the chances are pretty high that none of them have it. Now to what degree that is happening I don't know. Edited April 2, 2020 by Hapless Bills Fan covid-19 to covid-19 threads please 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Since they don’t have the ability to test if symptom free, the whole point is they could have it AND be symptom free, and infect others. They need to follow the direction that is out there. Maybe it would be ideal to have your scenario as laid out but that is not reality. So they need to act like they might have it and everyone else might have it. If they are symptom free and get tested wouldn't the test indicate whether they are infected or not? If that is the case then assuming that they are virus free and quarantining themselves in the off hours then why are they at risk or putting anyone else at risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, JohnC said: If they are symptom free and get tested wouldn't the test indicate whether they are infected or not? If that is the case then assuming that they are virus free and quarantining themselves in the off hours then why are they at risk or putting anyone else at risk? Yes but at least where I live, you can’t get a test if symptom free. Should we assume they tested in Florida? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Yes but at least where I live, you can’t get a test if symptom free. Should we assume they tested in Florida? These guys got money coming out of their asses. I'm sure that they will be able to make arrangements to not only get the test but quickly get the results. Some people get in the front of the line when going to the clubs by flashing the green stuff so it shouldn't be surprising for some people to skip the line to get the test and results in short order. Edited April 2, 2020 by JohnC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Since they don’t have the ability to test if symptom free, the whole point is they could have it AND be symptom free, and infect others. They need to follow the direction that is out there. Maybe it would be ideal to have your scenario as laid out but that is not reality. So they need to act like they might have it and everyone else might have it. Except you CAN test for it, that's exactly how they were able to stop it...people tested positive with no symptoms and they isolated them. Again, its not like I am suggesting to do something that hasn't already worked in S. Korea and Singapore and is currently working in Germany...for God's sake they are sending people door to door in Germany to test people...that couldn't happen here? These countries are/were proactive in their response. All the others have been reactive. How has that worked out for the others? Edited April 2, 2020 by matter2003 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Yes but at least where I live, you can’t get a test if symptom free. Should we assume they tested in Florida? Some recent studies are finding that in 90% of infected individuals the first symptom that appears is a significant loss in the senses of smell and taste. So maybe a good test might be a dozen or so hot sauce coated wings and blue cheese every day to make sure we're all virus free? Edited April 2, 2020 by All_Pro_Bills 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, JohnC said: These guys got money coming out of their asses. I'm sure that they will be able to make arrangements to not only get the test but quickly get the results. Some people get in the front of the line when going to the clubs by flashing the green stuff so it shouldn't be surprising for some people to skip the line to get the test and results in short order. It’s possible that all 3 paid to get tested but I certainly would not assume that... especially with AB 4 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Except you CAN test for it, that's exactly how they were able to stop it...people tested positive with no symptoms and they isolated them. Again, its not like I am suggesting to do something that hasn't already worked in S. Korea and Singapore and is currently working in Germany...for God's sake they are sending people door to door in Germany to test people...that couldn't happen here? These countries are/were proactive in their response. All the others have been reactive. How has that worked out for the others? I didn’t say it couldn’t happen in the US, I’m saying it’s not happening. So i doubt these 3 got tested but who knows. Edited April 2, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: I get social distancing, but its not like 3 people that don't have it can suddenly infect each other. If they have been properly self-isolating and don't have symptoms then the chances are pretty high that none of them have it. Now to what degree that is happening I don't know. The problem here is that we have chosen to go into lockdown but are ignoring the most important thing which is mass testing of everyone multiple times, which has been shown to work very successfully in 3 places now. South Korea, Singapore and Germany. These countries all basically stopped the outbreak by identifying stealth spreaders who had no symptoms and isolated them. None of these places got overran by the virus. South Korea and Singapore stopped it with no lockdowns and no disruptions. Germany is in lockdown but has almost no deaths from it and their ICU's are virtually empty. We are following the wrong method of stopping it, or at least not doing the MOST important thing which is identifying and stopping the stealth spreaders which are the ones fueling the virus. Because from what I have heard there is no way in the bloody pit of Hades that someone who has started getting symptoms is in any shape to be going anywhere to spread it to anyone, other than EMT's or Hospital Staff No disrespect intended, here, but this mentality is a very big part of the overall problem. Viruses don't walk around spreading themselves. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: Except you CAN test for it, that's exactly how they were able to stop it...people tested positive with no symptoms and they isolated them. Again, its not like I am suggesting to do something that hasn't already worked in S. Korea and Singapore and is currently working in Germany...for God's sake they are sending people door to door in Germany to test people...that couldn't happen here? These countries are/were proactive in their response. All the others have been reactive. How has that worked out for the others? It's just a different animal in such a large country as the US. We're talking 83 million people vs 327 million people. 138 thousand square miles vs 3.8 million square miles. Plus you know in the US you'll have a bunch of wackos who refuse to be tested, just like we are having large groups refusing to self isolate. So yeah, there is a better way but scaling that method is exponentially more difficult in such a large nation. Plus, I'm sure international travel is a bigger issue in New York City than anywhere in Germany, S. Korea, or Singpore. And with the population density of NYC, they just didn't stand a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Their combined wonderlic score is 3 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: And the 13 on the wonderlic starts to make more sense. You bastard - beat me to it 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: they are sending people door to door in Germany to test people...that couldn't happen here? That worked out well last time Germany did that 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, MJS said: It's just a different animal in such a large country as the US. We're talking 83 million people vs 327 million people. 138 thousand square miles vs 3.8 million square miles. Plus you know in the US you'll have a bunch of wackos who refuse to be tested, just like we are having large groups refusing to self isolate. So yeah, there is a better way but scaling that method is exponentially more difficult in such a large nation. Plus, I'm sure international travel is a bigger issue in New York City than anywhere in Germany, S. Korea, or Singpore. And with the population density of NYC, they just didn't stand a chance. Yeah, well unemployment went up by about 10M people in 14 days, with no signs of stopping. Adding that to our current unemployment rate puts at just under 10%. Those are 2008 numbers. Next week we will be at 1982 numbers. It took the country years to bounce back from those events. People are affraid of the upfront cost of logistics when the long term loss is actually much more detrimental. Edited April 2, 2020 by Mango 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 3 hours ago, hjnick said: Well, they have been all touching the same balls right... Couldn't they spread it that way? Damn herpes just won't go away! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mango said: Yeah, well unemployment went up by about 10M people in 14 days, with no signs of stopping. Adding that to our current unemployment rate puts at just under 10%. Those are 2008 numbers. Next week we will be at 1982 numbers. It took the country years to bounce back from those events. People are affraid of the upfront cost of logistics when the long term loss is actually much more detrimental. The cost is only a small part of the logistical issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, MJS said: It's just a different animal in such a large country as the US. We're talking 83 million people vs 327 million people. 138 thousand square miles vs 3.8 million square miles. Plus you know in the US you'll have a bunch of wackos who refuse to be tested, just like we are having large groups refusing to self isolate. So yeah, there is a better way but scaling that method is exponentially more difficult in such a large nation. Plus, I'm sure international travel is a bigger issue in New York City than anywhere in Germany, S. Korea, or Singpore. And with the population density of NYC, they just didn't stand a chance. I agree, but they really needed to start this in the big cities on the coasts which is where it started...the huge middle section of country was largely unaffected for a long time, which would have dramatically lessened the square mileage while still hitting the major population centers(outside of Chicago). NYC Population density: 26,100 people per sq mile Seoul Population density: 45,000 people per sq mile Seoul has close to double the population density as NYC which means the virus should have spread more rapidly there since people are literally on top of each other at almost double the rate NYC is...not saying this isn't valid to some degree but it would have been a much bigger issue in Seoul than it would have been in NYC... Also Seoul is an outright larger city than NYC coming in ranked 6th largest city in the world with a metro area of 25.5 million versus NYC's 19.3 million. Also I wouldn't make that claim about international traffic...in 2019 analyzing half year data, Seoul's Incheon Airport is 13th in the world in International Air Traffic at over 35 million people per year, JFK in NYC is 21st at 30 million... Additionally you see Frankfurt, Germany at 15th with 33.6 million passengers and Singapore with 33.1 million right behind Frankfurt at 16th...both ahead of NYC's busiest airport... Now, granted NYC has 3 huge airports, JFK, Laguardia and increasingly Newark but let's not make it out to be that these other airports have no traffic coming and going Edited April 2, 2020 by matter2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Gugny said: No disrespect intended, here, but this mentality is a very big part of the overall problem. Viruses don't walk around spreading themselves. Which is exactly why you implement mass testing which gets the people who seem healthy but are actually infected off the streets. The problem is we have implemented something that is 25% effective but not the thing that is 75% effective, then are wondering why the hospitals are still being overrun like they have been in all the other countries that haven't done mass testing. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Especially when you watched other countries solve the problem by doing mass testing. Gee I wonder what we should be doing.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: And the 13 on the wonderlic starts to make more sense. The Wonderlick total there is around 40, just below Fitz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 52 minutes ago, matter2003 said: I agree, but they really needed to start this in the big cities on the coasts which is where it started...the huge middle section of country was largely unaffected for a long time, which would have dramatically lessened the square mileage while still hitting the major population centers(outside of Chicago). NYC Population density: 26,100 people per sq mile Seoul Population density: 45,000 people per sq mile Seoul has close to double the population density as NYC which means the virus should have spread more rapidly there since people are literally on top of each other at almost double the rate NYC is...not saying this isn't valid to some degree but it would have been a much bigger issue in Seoul than it would have been in NYC... Also Seoul is an outright larger city than NYC coming in ranked 6th largest city in the world with a metro area of 25.5 million versus NYC's 19.3 million. Also I wouldn't make that claim about international traffic...in 2019 analyzing half year data, Seoul's Incheon Airport is 13th in the world in International Air Traffic at over 35 million people per year, JFK in NYC is 21st at 30 million... Additionally you see Frankfurt, Germany at 15th with 33.6 million passengers and Singapore with 33.1 million right behind Frankfurt at 16th...both ahead of NYC's busiest airport... Now, granted NYC has 3 huge airports, JFK, Laguardia and increasingly Newark but let's not make it out to be that these other airports have no traffic coming and going Korea and Singapore also have homogeneous populations that has been cooperative of the effort. Some ethnic/religious groups are still defying the lock down and quarantine mandates in NY/NJ. In Korea and Singapore they temperature test people entering the transit system and buildings with large groups of people working or assembling. NYC does not do this. I could go on. And for the life of me I cannot understand how any of the airports are still open to send potentially infected traveler across the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 29 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Korea and Singapore also have homogeneous populations that has been cooperative of the effort. Some ethnic/religious groups are still defying the lock down and quarantine mandates in NY/NJ. In Korea and Singapore they temperature test people entering the transit system and buildings with large groups of people working or assembling. NYC does not do this. I could go on. And for the life of me I cannot understand how any of the airports are still open to send potentially infected traveler across the country. Yeah I have not understood the airports either...they are helping spread it as much as anything as if the virus cares whether its an international or domestic flight... Here is a story about how South Korea beat the virus without any lockdowns... https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-korea-coronavirus-response-142615105.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 balt has 10 mil in cap space...16 mil in dead cap surprisingly. 93 mil next year so they have the room to make this happen. that would be one big time offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 4 hours ago, matter2003 said: I get social distancing, but its not like 3 people that don't have it can suddenly infect each other. If they have been properly self-isolating and don't have symptoms then the chances are pretty high that none of them have it. Now to what degree that is happening I don't know. The problem here is ..... Please limit general covid-19 discussion (testing/what happened to it/why we aren't testing) to the several covid-19 threads in Off-the-wall and (if you roll that way) PPP. I agree with the point that we don't know enough to pronounce on whether the 3 of them are foolish or not - if they are (for example) sharing a house as Kyle Allen and Josh Allen are, or otherwise functioning as an isolated social unit, it really shouldn't be a problem. If, in addition, they are each interacting separately with a network of friends and relatives who are each interacting with other friends and relatives, then it's not too smart, and the photo is kind of sending a wrong message. 4 hours ago, JohnC said: If they are symptom free and get tested wouldn't the test indicate whether they are infected or not? If that is the case then assuming that they are virus free and quarantining themselves in the off hours then why are they at risk or putting anyone else at risk? Not necessarily. If you're symptom free, it could mean you haven't developed the illness yet, in which case you might not have enough virus to be detectable on the test. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 And here I thought I created a thread about how stupid Lamar and his friends are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 The lack of movement on a federal level back in January when our own doctors and specialists first informed our federal government is why we are playing catch-up at this point. We lost almost two months of time just getting our leaders to take this seriously, and get the ball rolling. This has been a botched job from the get go. I hope those guys don’t get infected it would be horrible for them and their families. Stay healthy Bills Nation!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Gugny said: And here I thought I created a thread about how stupid Lamar and his friends are. apparently you are the stupid one. What was your wonderlic? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 Just now, Reed83HOF said: apparently you are the stupid one. What was your wonderlic? 13.1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 46 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Yeah I have not understood the airports either...they are helping spread it as much as anything as if the virus cares whether its an international or domestic flight... Here is a story about how South Korea beat the virus without any lockdowns... https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-korea-coronavirus-response-142615105.html The other thing S. Korea has going for them was they did not outsource almost their entire medication/device supply chain to countries like China. So when we needed additional test kits and materials there was none to be found domestically. This is being addressed now but the window of opportunity to suppress the outbreak has passed. When all this finally resolves I suspect the entire globalization and outsourcing work to other countries is going to suffer some massive political and social backlash. With hope we get some football this fall and a return to somewhat "normal" life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) You know those masks the CDC and WHO told us we don't need? S. Korea, Japan, Malaysia - they wear them. Now look at the stats again. The "experts" are going to get bitten on this one - they were BS-ing everyone because they were afraid of shortages for the medical folks - somewhat understandable but they won't recover their reputations for lying about it. Edited April 2, 2020 by BobChalmers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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