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He should get lots of opportunities.

 

With the WR core, him, Singletarry, and Josh's ability to run... this team can be a nightmare for opposing Ds

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2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

 

I get what you're saying about Know not having a lot of opportunities at Ole Miss but then again maybe they didn't throw to him much because they knew he had hands of stone.   

 

The problem might simply be that he lacks hand-eye coordination and that's virtually impossible to teach.  I'm not going to rush to judgment on a rookie but the drops are concerning.  He's not getting any love from me - beyond the love I give all players in a Bills uni - until he proves he can be a reliable target for Josh.  

Since when is it impossible to teach hand-eye coordination? 

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He had 10 drops on like 30 targets (small exaggeration). He's a liability, until he proves he's not.

 

I hope he makes us all eat crow, but let's not go out and start buying Jerseys just yet.

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No one wants to hear it but it's a technique problem

 

The way the high schools teach you to catch is wrong

 

He need to become more natural

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Some love for Knox? Sure...

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I have high hopes for him. Ole Miss threw mostly to speed guys on quick slants or go’s so TE’s didn’t get much love. 

 

I appreciated, when he was on OBL recently, where he owned the drops and talked about the work he’s putting in. Also, as has been said a zillion times here, pass catchers take time to adjust to the NFL. This kid will be great.

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4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

If you look at his targets, it's pretty easy to see he actually has great hand-eye coordination.

 

He made some very difficult catches this year - tight window, DB hands in his face, pulling on his arms etc.

 

The drops he made were usually uncontested catches where he had room to turn and run.  They're a focus problem, not a hand-eye coordination problem.

 

 

wow plays and mind numbing drops but it was year 1

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Great discussion but it's way too early to be giving Knox love. He has great potential and obviously needs to improve. This season will tell us a little

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Knox is exciting and I love the guy.  Easy to root for and a beast with the ball.  He's got to get better and stop dropping the easy ones.  I think he will.  I'm expecting big improvement because he now has a year in the system, a year with the QB, and will be in an offense that will have more weapons.

 

I'm glad the FO resisted the temptation to go with a FA number one TE.  I think one big way for sustained success is when draft choices are peppered throughout the starting lineup.  I think Knox will be one of those, he just needs the chance.

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The angry run was good stuff. Needs to work on catching the ball first. Makes hard catches but drops the easy ones

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I am a Knox fan. I love his ability to stretch the field and get yac and break tackles. This season he must improve blocking skills and fix the drops.  I believe in this player and if Kroft plays up to expectations now healthy,  the TEs will be a strength. 

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I love Knox but he might be a year away from being a truly good complete TE. I think he is more consistent and has less bone headed drops in year two. But I still think his play is very up and down in year 2. He is a good athlete and worth the snaps and playing time to develop. But I think anyone expecting him to look like a top elite TE or anywhere close to a pro-bowl caliber TE is diluting themselves. Knox as good of an athlete as he is, was also super raw coming out of college. I think that it was always going to be year 3 for him if he is going to blossom. I wish they had found a way to get a vet TE in there to split the snaps year one, I guess they have faith in Kroft. 

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6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

If you look at his targets, it's pretty easy to see he actually has great hand-eye coordination.

 

He made some very difficult catches this year - tight window, DB hands in his face, pulling on his arms etc.

 

The drops he made were usually uncontested catches where he had room to turn and run.  They're a focus problem, not a hand-eye coordination problem.

 

 

100% agree. He was always looking to run up field, and taking his eyes off the ball for his drops. 

his hands are not the issue, like you say. 

 

which is good as far as coachability is concerned.

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5 hours ago, babulator said:

He had 10 drops on like 30 targets (small exaggeration). He's a liability, until he proves he's not.

 

I hope he makes us all eat crow, but let's not go out and start buying Jerseys just yet.

His ability to run people over is fun but if he can't catch the damn ball he's worthless.  Even Jack's grandson could catch the ball. This will be a make or break season for Knox.

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His missed block in OT against Houston was a killer and pretty much cost the Bills the game. Two other guys walked right by too but that was Knox's man. 

 

Having said that, this guy has the potential to be a superstar from some of the things we saw last year. All the talent in the world. 

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9 hours ago, BisonMan said:

With all the discussion about Diggs (rightfully so) and how good our WR group is compared to those around the league, I think Dawson Knox is not getting his due.

 

I think Knox, with just one year in the NFL, is set for a breakout season. We quickly forget that he didn't get many balls thrown to him in his college career. He caught just 15 passes and 0 TDs behind a complete stud WR corp at Old Miss. The Bills recognized this diamond in the rough but, I think, also realized that he wouldn't become a solid catching TE in his first season. Nonetheless, I think he had a great rookie year (28 catches and 2 TDs). He was 15th in the league in yards per reception.


Did he drop a bunch of catches? Yes. According to Fox Sports, he was 3rd in drops with 10 (~25% drop rate, yikes). However, it's not like he had a lot of opportunities in game time situations in his career. If Knox can clean up the drops this year along with having a much stronger receiving corp, Knox is likely to have a breakout year.

 

Instead of off-season workouts, the Bills should just ship him 25 footballs and this:

 

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Maybe he didn't get many balls thrown at him in college because it was known that he was just average catching a high number of passes.

 

Not sure great hands are developed in the league...I think you either have them entering the league, or you won't for a career.

 

I'd be stoked if his hands developed with the rest of his game, but my gut feeling is that we may be forced to  appreciate him for what he does bring to the table until the position is upgraded. 

 

I'm crossing my fingers though and hoping for the best.

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10 hours ago, BisonMan said:

With all the discussion about Diggs (rightfully so) and how good our WR group is compared to those around the league, I think Dawson Knox is not getting his due.

 

I think Knox, with just one year in the NFL, is set for a breakout season. We quickly forget that he didn't get many balls thrown to him in his college career. He caught just 15 passes and 0 TDs behind a complete stud WR corp at Old Miss. The Bills recognized this diamond in the rough but, I think, also realized that he wouldn't become a solid catching TE in his first season. Nonetheless, I think he had a great rookie year (28 catches and 2 TDs). He was 15th in the league in yards per reception.


Did he drop a bunch of catches? Yes. According to Fox Sports, he was 3rd in drops with 10 (~25% drop rate, yikes). However, it's not like he had a lot of opportunities in game time situations in his career. If Knox can clean up the drops this year along with having a much stronger receiving corp, Knox is likely to have a breakout year.

 

Instead of off-season workouts, the Bills should just ship him 25 footballs and this:

 

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I don’t think anyone forgot he didn’t get many balls thrown to him in college it was all anyone talked about. Media and fans alike. 

 

Id like to see him hold onto more balls though. Dude seems to be everything we ever wanted with the ball in his hands. 

 

He’s just got to do better getting the football in them. 

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A world of potential that can only be realized if his route running improves and his pass catching improves a lot.

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10 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

 

I get what you're saying about Know not having a lot of opportunities at Ole Miss but then again maybe they didn't throw to him much because they knew he had hands of stone.   

 

The problem might simply be that he lacks hand-eye coordination and that's virtually impossible to teach.  I'm not going to rush to judgment on a rookie but the drops are concerning.  He's not getting any love from me - beyond the love I give all players in a Bills uni - until he proves he can be a reliable target for Josh.  

If he lacked hand eye coordination and had hands of stone, I don't think he would have made any of the rediculous grabs that he made. Down the side line against the Ravens, deep against NE...

 

I think there's every reason the believe he can improve his catch percentage since a number of the drops seemed mental. Rookies process slower on the field. Once the game slows down for him a bit, I think he could be very good. 

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Yes, I know he has a REALLY high % of drops. But damn, I just looked at this highlight clip. Some of the catches he did make are awesome. Like Josh, he came out of college a lot more raw than most other draftees. Anyway, he is on the roster, a Bills, will play for the team next year, so... GO KNOX

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, BurpleBull said:


Maybe he didn't get many balls thrown at him in college because it was known that he was just average catching a high number of passes.

 

Not sure great hands are developed in the league...I think you either have them entering the league, or you won't for a career.

 

I'd be stoked if his hands developed with the rest of his game, but my gut feeling is that we may be forced to  appreciate him for what he does bring to the table until the position is upgraded. 

 

I'm crossing my fingers though and hoping for the best.

 

As another poster mentioned Knox made a lot of great catches that only someone with great hand eye coordination and hands could make. But then he made a lot of boneheaded drops with no defenders relatively close to him. l think it is a mental approach and a lack of experience gameplay wise that leads to that lack of consistency rather than outright bad hands. I hope that's the case as I think reps and playing time are things that can improve his play. 

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