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Beane won't trade draft capital for vets until we are literally one player away

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Stefanski has had Kyle Rudolph and they drafted Irv Smith who combined for 75 catches and 8 TDs last year. I would figure he's looking at a guy like Njoku to be a key factor in his offense, or at least give him a shot before moving on. 

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6 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Stefanski has had Kyle Rudolph and they drafted Irv Smith who combined for 75 catches and 8 TDs last year. I would figure he's looking at a guy like Njoku to be a key factor in his offense, or at least give him a shot before moving on. 

 

This.  At the very least, I don't see why Stefanski wouldn't bring the guy into camp and have a good look at him.

 

15 minutes ago, stuvian said:

Beane won't trade draft capital for vets until we are literally one player away

 

From his past record, this is not true.  Especially, he likely realizes that this year, not everyone we could draft with a late-round pick has a real chance to make the team.  I personally think he'll be looking to utilize some of those picks to see if we can move up a bit in the draft. 

 

I don't think he'd be opposed to trading a 5th or 6th round pick (or both) for a promising player.  But if the Browns are willing to deal Njoku for that before camp, I say count the legs on that hoss most carefully.

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I wouldn't trade for him at all. He literally has two cinder blocks on the end of his wrists. 

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No.  Tight ends don't seem to be a priority in this offense as far as targets go.  Until that changes, the position isn't high on the priority list.

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Maybe go after Kyle Rudolph, I'f Olson doesn't pan out. His stats weren't great last but he can still ball, and has veteran leadership for Knox.

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6 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

He is worth at least a third round pick but I would not go higher than a fifth. The reason being unlike last year the Bills are fine at TE if they do nothing. A third round pick will be a significant contributor if not starter on defense. 

As others said, if I'm the new coach in Cleveland I'm not trading Njoku until I at least  see him in person in training camp and probably well into the season. But it made no sense for new HC McD to trade away Sammy and make the offense worse. Some guys rightly or wrongly just want their type of player and maybe Njoku is just not a good fit in  Cleveland.  

 

I disagree with everything you've said here except i wouldn't trade Njoku if I were Cleveland. 

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We just signed four new TE's last year, but lets bring in another.  I really can't think of a positional group on the roster that someone new brought in less than TE.  The one thing I know for certain is that no one knows in 3 to 4 years who'll be better Knox or Njoku, but lets bring in someone different this way Knox will spend less time on the field.

 

One of the articles I read the other day about signing Olsen and his point which I tend to agree with is bringing in a guy like Olsen is OK as he's only a short term solution to help Knox improve, but should not make any moves that would reduce Knox's playing time. Went on to say how there's very few other TE's in the league with the potential talent set he has, admitted that the drops are a concern,  but  do everything you can to help him develop.  And oh BTW as a 1st round pick, likely is being paid much more too.

 

It just is amazing here how no one ever has any patience, if the guy's not all pro after 1 season, may as well cut him is what seems like the theme here all too often.  That works in Madden, but not in the NFL.

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2 hours ago, White Linen said:

 

I disagree with everything you've said here except i wouldn't trade Njoku if I were Cleveland. 

Curious.

You think Njoku is worth less than a 3rd?

You think TE group is not fine and if so what do you want to do about it? I assume you would want to cut Kroft and sign another FA.

You don't think a 3rd round pick will be a significant contributor this year? My hunch is the first three picks in the draft will all play significant snaps if not starters - at DE, OLB, and either DT or WR depending on what they do with Phillips and in free agency.

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9 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Would I take him for a 5th or 6th? Yeah.

 

Would I give him up for a 5th or 6th if I was Cleveland. A guy who had 639 yards in his 2nd year? Absolutely not.

Give back the 6th we got for Wyatt Teller.

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Factor in anybody’s career that passes through Cleveland tanks, maybe mcbeane would trade and extend him next year. He is a big wr that might be able to block so 

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Meh. He plays small imo, frame kind of slight too...not what the staff has been gathering in the TE room as of late

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On 2/15/2020 at 2:21 PM, Ethan in Portland said:

Curious.

You think Njoku is worth less than a 3rd?

You think TE group is not fine and if so what do you want to do about it? I assume you would want to cut Kroft and sign another FA.

You don't think a 3rd round pick will be a significant contributor this year? My hunch is the first three picks in the draft will all play significant snaps if not starters - at DE, OLB, and either DT or WR depending on what they do with Phillips and in free agency.

No chance I’d give up a 3rd for njoku.  Zero. Might give up a 5th.  I’d give up a 6th for sure

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Browns just cut Demetrius Harris, so unless they plan to go into FA without a starting TE, I’d say the idea of trading Njoku just became less likely a scenario 

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On 2/15/2020 at 8:35 AM, gjv001 said:

I would be more inclined to trade for O J Howard. Howard does not appear to be thriving in Bruce Arians offense.  

Howard hasn't thrived in anyone's offense

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On 2/15/2020 at 12:10 PM, JP's Voice said:

I wouldn't trade for him at all. He literally has two cinder blocks on the end of his wrists. 

 

How so?  64% catch in 2018

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Olsen is still better even at age 34 and he'll be cheaper. Njoku is pretty average. I wouldn't mind signing him if he's released and Olsen signs elsewhere.

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On 2/15/2020 at 7:51 AM, H2o said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28640475/32-nfl-players-use-fresh-start-offseason-qbs-injured-stars#CLE

 

TE David Njoku

He fell out of favor under the previous regime, as he was a regular healthy scratch down the stretch after returning from IR after a wrist injury. Had coach Freddie Kitchens and general manager John Dorsey been retained, Njoku almost certainly would have been out the door. Still, while Njoku would have a fresh start under a new coach and front office, it's clear he was also losing the trust of QB Baker Mayfield. That's why the 2017 first-round selection might be better off attempting to resuscitate his career elsewhere -- especially if the Browns can get something that can help them in return. -- Jake Trotter

 

He was a super talented TE prospect coming out of Miami who has battled a couple injuries, but has flashed on the field at times. I'd see if we could swing one of our 5th or 6th round picks for him. It may or may not work, depending on if Cleveland is wanting to part ways and what they would want for compensation. It's another way to add a potential weapon for Josh in a relatively cheap manner though. 

 

he was impressive, getting indoctrinated in the process could be rejuvenating.

 

 

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