Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: With their GM search failing to gain traction, The Astros have named Bill O’Brien as GM effective immediately. Meh. When they start awarding multiple compensatory draft picks to the Houston Texans, THEN I will be impressed. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: No! Because the only mistake that keeps on giving is the one you refuse to cut your losses on. In retrospect that "trade" of Osweiler to Cleveland was brilliant. Look, here's the point I'm trying to make on O'Brien: - made the playoffs in 4 out of 6 years - won a game in the playoffs in a couple of those years If McDermott's Bills make the playoffs in the next 2 seasons and actually win a game in each, we'll be applauding his contract extension. Would you applaud making him GM because he won a couple playoff games? That’s what we’re taking about here. He’s the only HC in the league to also be the GM. Edited January 29, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcampbell104 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 hours ago, purple haze said: ???? O'Brien must have pictures of somebody. +the sad thing is they are probably himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) For real? When I read the thread title I totally thought you were just messing around Yolo. ? wtf has this guy done to keep getting more and more power in the Texans organization? I thought they were were waiting for Charlie Casserly’s contract to expire in May... (edit, meant Nick Caserio) Edited January 29, 2020 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Make Gase GM next please 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 30 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Would you applaud making him GM because he won a couple playoff games? That’s what we’re taking about here. He’s the only HC in the league to also be the GM. Yes currently. I guess you could say other owners learned their lesson. But lemmings need to jump - who will follow? 21 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: For real? When I read the thread title I totally thought you were just messing around Yolo. ? wtf has this guy done to keep getting more and more power in the Texans organization? I thought they were were waiting for Charlie Casserly’s contract to expire in May... Charley Casserly has been out of league for a while and rejected for front office position. He is a college professor locally (George Mason, MBA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 O’Brien and Marrone must get together in the off-season in some secret locale and just giggle like schoolgirls at how they have fleeced these teams. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Yes currently. I guess you could say other owners learned their lesson. But lemmings need to jump - who will follow? Charley Casserly has been out of league for a while and rejected for front office position. He is a college professor locally (George Mason, MBA). Yeah I was just coming to correct that. Meant Nick Caserio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 He seems like a buffoon but the stuff I made fun of last offseason generally worked better than I expected. i still think it’s the wrong move, but I pause slightly before totally mocking it and will simply remain skeptical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 8 hours ago, NoSaint said: He seems like a buffoon but the stuff I made fun of last offseason generally worked better than I expected. i still think it’s the wrong move, but I pause slightly before totally mocking it and will simply remain skeptical I'd say the fact that he has a top 10 QB, top 5 WR, and top 5 DE but can't get past the divisional round of the playoffs speaks to Ass Chin's fitness as Mr. Everything. Compare, for example, what McDermott has done in three years with far less talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 40 minutes ago, eball said: I'd say the fact that he has a top 10 QB, top 5 WR, and top 5 DE but can't get past the divisional round of the playoffs speaks to Ass Chin's fitness as Mr. Everything. Compare, for example, what McDermott has done in three years with far less talent. oh I’m not saying he’s anything to brag about but simply the dumpster fire wasn’t burning quite as bright as many portray. Plenty of issues with the guy still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Oh boy, oh boy. Bill O’Brien Lifetime Record as a Coach against Buffalo is 12-2 9-1 as an assistant 3-1 as a head coach So...yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Guess they will never have a first round draft pick again as he will always be chasing the "Win now" mentality, kinda like what McVay has done with the Rams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 45 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Oh boy, oh boy. Bill O’Brien Lifetime Record as a Coach against Buffalo is 12-2 9-1 as an assistant 3-1 as a head coach So...yeah... 3-1 as a coach is what matters and in two of this wins he needed extreme help from officiating, and a cheap shot to knock out our Qb. Color me unimpressed .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Oh boy, oh boy. Bill O’Brien Lifetime Record as a Coach against Buffalo is 12-2 9-1 as an assistant 3-1 as a head coach So...yeah... How is this relevant to whether or not Ass Chin deserves all the power he has accumulated? Most of those Bills teams were awful. Are you one of the "we have no right to criticize others if we suck" fans? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Oh boy, oh boy. Bill O’Brien Lifetime Record as a Coach against Buffalo is 12-2 9-1 as an assistant 3-1 as a head coach So...yeah... So... what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 17 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: With their GM search failing to gain traction, The Astros have named Bill O’Brien as GM effective immediately. I believe the title is Director of Communications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, eball said: How is this relevant to whether or not Ass Chin deserves all the power he has accumulated? Most of those Bills teams were awful. Are you one of the "we have no right to criticize others if we suck" fans? I’m not gonna stop anyone related to a mediocre/average teams from criticizing teams that are superior. Its just a really dumb look for those folks. 3 hours ago, Meatloaf63 said: 3-1 as a coach is what matters and in two of this wins he needed extreme help from officiating, and a cheap shot to knock out our Qb. Color me unimpressed .... Be as unimpressed as you want. End of the day...O’Brien gets the win, Buffalo takes the losses. But keep saying he’s bad. It’s a “unique” look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) This may be true but Pat Mahomes still owns the Texans. Edited January 30, 2020 by thunderingsquid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: I’m not gonna stop anyone related to a mediocre/average teams from criticizing teams that are superior. Its just a really dumb look for those folks. Be as unimpressed as you want. End of the day...O’Brien gets the win, Buffalo takes the losses. But keep saying he’s bad. It’s a “unique” look. The thread is about Bill O’Brien getting handed the GM title on top of the HC title, the only one in the nfl to hold that prominent of a dual role in the league. Not about whether he can beat the Bills as a coach. Your responses don’t align with the topic people are discussing, unless you intended to quote someone who specifically thought he was a bad coach compared to McDermott or something. Edited January 29, 2020 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Texans fans must be thrilled (sarcasm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 33 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The thread is about Bill O’Brien getting handed the GM title on top of the HC title, the only one in the nfl to hold that prominent of a dual role in the league. Not about whether he can beat the Bills as a coach. Your responses don’t align with the topic people are discussing, unless you intended to quote someone who specifically thought he was a bad coach compared to McDermott or something. Oh please. I’m an adult, your an adult. So let’s talk like adults and attempt to be honest about the true motivation behind bashing of Bill O’Brien. Anything less is simply disingenuous. The root of the criticism from “billsmafia” stems from one area and one area alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 23 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Oh please. I’m an adult, your an adult. So let’s talk like adults... Agreed. Can we write like adults? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: I’m not gonna stop anyone related to a mediocre/average teams from criticizing teams that are superior. Its just a really dumb look for those folks. Be as unimpressed as you want. End of the day...O’Brien gets the win, Buffalo takes the losses. But keep saying he’s bad. It’s a “unique” look. Actually your view is in the minority, but you can live in your little world were context and facts have no bearing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: I’m not gonna stop anyone related to a mediocre/average teams from criticizing teams that are superior. Its just a really dumb look for those folks. Be as unimpressed as you want. End of the day...O’Brien gets the win, Buffalo takes the losses. But keep saying he’s bad. It’s a “unique” look. This makes zero sense to me. You are criticizing people for having an opinion about a team’s unique personnel move (widely questioned elsewhere as well) because they are Bills fans, and this team was (barely) better than the Bills this season? So anytime one has a negative opinion about a team, in your world, they need to compare records first to make sure it’s ok? Can we have positive opinions about moves that “worse” teams make or is that a “dumb” look too? Not everything that teams with better records do is good. Not everything that teams with worse records do is bad. It’s ok to look at things objectively. And this thread had nothing to do with the Bills until you raised up O’Brien’s record against them as some sort of referendum on him becoming GM. Edited January 29, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 3:35 PM, H2o said: I guess they don't like high draft picks Neither do the chiefs. But that seems to be working out o for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: The thread is about Bill O’Brien getting handed the GM title on top of the HC title, the only one in the nfl to hold that prominent of a dual role in the league. Not about whether he can beat the Bills as a coach. Your responses don’t align with the topic people are discussing, unless you intended to quote someone who specifically thought he was a bad coach compared to McDermott or something. O'Brien has been functioning as GM in all but name for sometime. He gets credit or blame for the personnel moves this past year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 Just now, Chaos said: O'Brien has been functioning as GM in all but name for sometime. He gets credit or blame for the personnel moves this past year. He sure has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 5 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Agreed. Can we write like adults? I dunno. Can u? i juz playin. Juz plying. your alright mans. Your alright. Hey! No hard feelings. Jus messin wit you. You alright! Awesomeness! 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: This makes zero sense to me. You are criticizing people for having an opinion about a team’s unique personnel move (widely questioned elsewhere as well) because they are Bills fans, and this team was (barely) better than the Bills this season? So anytime one has a negative opinion about a team, in your world, they need to compare records first to make sure it’s ok? Can we have positive opinions about moves that “worse” teams make or is that a “dumb” look too? Not everything that teams with better records do is good. Not everything that teams with worse records do is bad. It’s ok to look at things objectively. And this thread had nothing to do with the Bills until you raised up O’Brien’s record against them as some sort of referendum on him becoming GM. Just know where you stand. Nobody looks dumber than a Jets fan criticizing Bill Belichick on how to run the Patriots. Unless, it’s a Bills fan telling Bill Belichick how to run the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Usually when you're about to hand a QB a huge contract and have zero first round picks the next two seasons it doesn't end well long term. Texans defense is average at best losing talents like Clowney and the Honey Badger. How much longer does JJ Watt have? I just see their ceiling as a divisional round team at best before regressing in a couple of years. BOB will be gone by then as he's a so so coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Just know where you stand. Nobody looks dumber than a Jets fan criticizing Bill Belichick on how to run the Patriots. Unless, it’s a Bills fan telling Bill Belichick how to run the Patriots. You are a sad little dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutie Flakes Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 4:06 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: So now will he be the DC as well? He promoted Anthony Weaver to be DC. Posters from our area know this name well as he grew up in Saratoga Springs. Played at Notre Dame and in the NFL as a d-lineman and was an assistant with the Bills for a short time. He was the Texans D-line coach the last three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 9:54 PM, eball said: O’Brien and Marrone must get together in the off-season in some secret locale and just giggle like schoolgirls at how they have fleeced these teams. Obviously.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 7:52 PM, The Frankish Reich said: No! Because the only mistake that keeps on giving is the one you refuse to cut your losses on. In retrospect that "trade" of Osweiler to Cleveland was brilliant. Look, here's the point I'm trying to make on O'Brien: - made the playoffs in 4 out of 6 years - won a game in the playoffs in a couple of those years If McDermott's Bills make the playoffs in the next 2 seasons and actually win a game in each, we'll be applauding his contract extension. Brilliant for whom? Cleveland got Nick Chubb out of that deal. What did Houston get? LT Julién Davenport in the 4th who was so good they sent him to Miami, along with THREE high draft picks and another player to obtain an actual LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 When they hang ‘His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Bill O’Brien Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular’, on him as a title, then I will be impressed. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Brilliant for whom? Cleveland got Nick Chubb out of that deal. What did Houston get? LT Julién Davenport in the 4th who was so good they sent him to Miami, along with THREE high draft picks and another player to obtain an actual LT. I forgot. Nick Chubb led the Browns to a playoff victory. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I forgot. Nick Chubb led the Browns to a playoff victory. Sorry. Really? Edited January 31, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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