The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[Buffalo_Gal]

Pence:
New cases are low and steady on the west coast.
Cases are declining in NYC, NO, and Detroit.
Steady progress is being made.
Trump approved American Samoa natural disaster order, now all 50 states and all US territories are under nature disaster order, first time ever.

Sent a letter to all the Governors outlining what was sent to them from the feds.

Pence: We believe the states can double the amount of testing by using all the labs available to them. Dr Birx will be going over that.

Edited April 17, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal

[Buffalo_Gal]

Pence: States today have enough tests to implement phase 1 (states that meet phase 1 criteria) if state governors should choose to do that.

 

[shoshin]

23 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Pence: States today have enough tests to implement phase 1 (states that meet phase 1 criteria) if state governors should choose to do that.

 

Someone should ask Mike how the states are coming on tracing, which is a prerequisite for phase 1. And which state exactly has seen 14 straight days of case declines. I like the Open America plan but I doubt any state qualifies for phase 1 based on its own wording. Some states may be moving towards it but very few. 

Edited April 17, 2020 by shoshin

[Buffalo_Gal]

Ok, so Dr Fauci was up, the guy with the beard was up, and now Dr Birx is up, and I am feeling super stupid while my eyes are glazing over. They are talking about the testing, the tests themselves, the need for testing who, what,  and where.  She just mentioned the American Society of Microbiologists annnnnd it sounds like Charlie Brown's teacher to me.

I hope someone else has better Cliff notes.
 

2 minutes ago, shoshin said:

Someone should ask Mike how the states are coming on tracing, which is a prerequisite for phase 1. And which state exactly has seen 14 straight days of case declines. 

 

See what I wrote above. Turn it on, or watch today's presser when it is available in full. It is very detailed.
 

Edited April 17, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal

[shoshin]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

See what I wrote above. Turn it on, or watch today's presser. It is very detailed.

I saw it. But all Pence said is there are enough tests available. I’d like someone to explain how any state is ready for phase one based on the requirements. Including the tracing piece, for which I’ve never heard a single state’s plan. I’m genuinely curious how Trump can say any state is ready for phase one. I’ve read the document. No one of the ones I’ve clicked on the data for is ready. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

2 minutes ago, shoshin said:

I saw it. But all Pence said is there are enough tests available. I’d like someone to explain how any state is ready for phase one based on the requirements. Including the tracing piece, for which I’ve never heard a single state’s plan. I’m genuinely curious how Trump can say any state is ready for phase one. I’ve read the document. No one of the ones I’ve clicked on the data for is ready. 

Er, that is what those three yapped about for 30 minutes. The Admiral up now is giving more details.

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Now I know why Trump left the room. ?

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Trump back: what governors have done in the lock down (pointing out VA second amendment shenanigans )

Press: people who are protesting will they spread COVID-19
Trump: they have a right to protest, they have been treated roughly

 

Talking about the Smithfield plant without mentioning China as the owner.

 

Grant of $3.7 million to Wuhan facility during the Obama administration (2015). We are looking into it.

Press: will the next relief package be enough (the $250B he's asking for)
Trump: praising the banks, not really answering the question. Just mentioning that the Ds will not allow the money to keep these small businesses whole. The money is really needed. He's mentioning that the Democrats are holding up the money.

 

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Trump back: what governors have done in the lock down (pointing out VA second amendment shenanigans )

Press: people who are protesting will they spread COVID-19
Trump: they have a right to protest, they have been treated roughly

 

Talking about the Smithfield plant without mentioning China as the owner.

 

Grant of $3.7 million to Wuhan facility during the Obama administration (2015). We are looking into it.

 

Feel bad they were treated rough  That's awful. 

 

Ya there is lots of rumors Wuhan 2015. Just wasn't sure true without any deeper info. If it is I have a new level of dislike for Obama administration.

[Buffalo_Gal]

He said, Nancy Pelosi is on vacation, and she should come back, she isn't doing her job. She should come back and do her job. (talking about the $250B money)
 

He is lobbying for a payroll tax cut now. (quoting someone) He's not sure we are gonna get it, but he is going to see if happens.

Press: asking about China doubling their death numbers
Trump: sounding skeptical

Press: asking about the virus escaping from the Wuhan lab
Trump: pointing out the bat isn't in that area, lots of investigation going on. Whatever form it came from from China, 184 countries are suffering due to China.

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Press: Trump rallies resuming when?
Trump: I hope we can resume them. They are an important part of politics.

[Hardhatharry]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Press: Trump rallies resuming when?
Trump: I hope we can resume them. They are an important part of politics.

Crazy how his whole head is only thinking about votes and nothing else.

[Buffalo_Gal]

Press: When will you travel again?
Trump: I don't know.  And then he pointed out he's been in the WH for months, and only went to launch that ship. Monologued about the ship.
Pence will be going to Colorado for the air force commencement. Trump will be doing west point. They will be having social distancing at both places.

 

1 minute ago, Hardhatharry said:

Crazy how his whole head is only thinking about votes and nothing else.

Yup, he put the press up to asking the question.

 

[dubs]

2 minutes ago, Hardhatharry said:

Crazy how his whole head is only thinking about votes and nothing else.

he was asked a question about political rallies, dummy. 

[Doc]

3 minutes ago, Hardhatharry said:

Crazy how his whole head is only thinking about votes and nothing else.

 

Yup.  And all Mexicans are rapists.

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

Someone is painting rocks to celebrate her move out of the ICU. I will be leaving her in a little bit as  will be taking over for me.

 

My niece is doing way better. Glad she is. That's my sister husband said on facebook. Tag my sister name but deleted here for privacy. Happy thing's going really well :). 

 

Ya going to take a break rest today and tomorrow. Covid19 seems like taking over my life studying everything to do. Gotta stop lol. Going too ahead of time after learning so much about it. Go for positive thing's and just enjoy the day tomorrow. Be safe everyone!

[B-Man]

‘Making complete sense’: Dr. Tony Fauci pushes back on Dem criticism over testing 

 

Dr. Tony Fauci just briefed the press on testing and it went very well.

 

He was responding to criticism from earlier today where Democrats said there weren’t enough tests and that President Trump needed to do more

 

 

 

He made it clear that what happened in the past is not what’s happening now

 

 

[Magox]

1 hour ago, shoshin said:

I saw it. But all Pence said is there are enough tests available. I’d like someone to explain how any state is ready for phase one based on the requirements. Including the tracing piece, for which I’ve never heard a single state’s plan. I’m genuinely curious how Trump can say any state is ready for phase one. I’ve read the document. No one of the ones I’ve clicked on the data for is ready. 

 

What part of the criteria are all states lacking?  I must be missing what you are looking at?

 

CDC director went over how they would do the contact tracing.  He says they have a sophisticated system that sort of works like a weather radar and from that system they’d attack it.   I don’t know exactly how that would work but that’s what was said.

1 minute ago, B-Man said:

‘Making complete sense’: Dr. Tony Fauci pushes back on Dem criticism over testing 

 

Dr. Tony Fauci just briefed the press on testing and it went very well.

 

He was responding to criticism from earlier today where Democrats said there weren’t enough tests and that President Trump needed to do more

 

 

 

He made it clear that what happened in the past is not what’s happening now

 

 

 

And this is what the lede or takeaway should be out of this presser.   But it won’t be, the media’s lede will be how Trump is supporting a government insurrection in the state of VA. And Michigan

[SoCal Deek]

14 minutes ago, Magox said:

And this is what the lede or takeaway should be out of this presser.   But it won’t be, the media’s lede will be how Trump is supporting a government insurrection in the state of VA. And Michigan

The media are those kids you knew in school who loved to spread gossip and discord. Those kids grew up to be journalists. All drama,  and certainly not paying attention in class! .

[Buffalo_Gal]

17 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

And this is what the lede or takeaway should be out of this presser.   But it won’t be, the media’s lede will be how Trump is supporting a government insurrection in the state of VA. And Michigan

I think they would love too, but I am not too certain how much attention they want to draw to what the VA Governor is doing. I was actually yelling at the TV for Trump to lay it out for those watching instead of dancing around it. If the Michigan Governor really is up for the Democratic VP slot, the less said about her shenanigans during this crisis, the better for the Democrats. And the “msm” is all about protecting the Ds. 
 

 

[3rdnlng]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Press: When will you travel again?
Trump: I don't know.  And then he pointed out he's been in the WH for months, and only went to launch that ship. Monologued about the ship.
Pence will be going to Colorado for the air force commencement. Trump will be doing west point. They will be having social distancing at both places.

 

Yup, he put the press up to asking the question.

 

Consider the source. Asshatharry normally just follows people around and posts negative emojis on every post that isn't done by a liberal nut job. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

***** China.
 

[Q-baby!]

14 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

***** China.
 

“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!” 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

4 minutes ago, Q-baby! said:

“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!” 

 

***** you, too.

 

[Q-baby!]

2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

***** you, too.

 

“Q-baby! has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates his effort and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank Q-baby!”

Edited April 18, 2020 by Q-baby!

[BillStime]

GOPigs

 

Devos-Funded Group Organizes Protest Against Michigan Governor’s Stay-at-Home Order

[Doc]

Just now, BillStime said:

GOPigs

 

Devos-Funded Group Organizes Protest Against Michigan Governor’s Stay-at-Home Order

 

I'm surprised a Soros-funded group didn't meet them to start violence.  George must be slipping in his old age.

[Q-baby!]

Not sure if I posted this? 
 

“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

 

??? He’s the goodest!!! 

[njbuff]

24 minutes ago, BillStime said:

GOPigs

 

Devos-Funded Group Organizes Protest Against Michigan Governor’s Stay-at-Home Order

 

I don't know why ANTIFA couldn't handle this. They wear masks to begin with.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

36 minutes ago, BillStime said:

GOPigs

 

Devos-Funded Group Organizes Protest Against Michigan Governor’s Stay-at-Home Order

 

How dare they!

 

If they're not protesting for deviants or dead black people, they shouldn't be allowed to protest!

 

[Taraka]

 

COVID-19 is now killing more Americans weekly than heart disease or cancer did on average per week in 2018.

[B-Man]

50 minutes ago, ~Kostabi~ said:

 

COVID-19 is now killing more Americans weekly than heart disease or cancer did on average per week in 2018.

 

 

Thats how pandemics work.

 

It will (thankfully) fall just as fast.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[/dev/null]

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

GOPigs

 

Devos-Funded Group Organizes Protest Against Michigan Governor’s Stay-at-Home Order

 

I get a chuckle out of how you blame American Republicans over the spread of a virus that was bioengineered by an authoritarian left wing dictatorship in China

[transplantbillsfan]

13 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Is that what you took away from that?  FYI, they are not loans if used to keep folks employed and fund payroll, the PPP extends grant money, ya silly goose.

 

On your point about being connected--I agree with you, those with the capacity and power get in line first and have the resources to get things accomplished that I do not.  That's an unfortunate part of life, but it's a reality that is on a continuous auto-loop decade after decade after decade.  As an example, @transplantbillsfan indicated he is a teacher.  Seems like a nice enough guy, probably has a couple loose screws upstairs ?, who knows--maybe he feels the same about me, or thinks about me not at all.  I don't know where he works, but let's assume he's a teacher in the public school system.  Relative to most Americans, he would be a have.  Income continues unchecked, benefits continue unchecked, pension continues unchecked and ultimately unmarred by market performance on the down side.  There has not been one call, one scream, nor even a whisper to stop/forgive/defer/negotiate property and school taxes even though "people are hurting".  I'm self employed, my business is impacted and I shared my PPP story.  I still have to figure a way to pay the king come October, like it or not, income challenged or not. 

 

He's a have*. I'm a have not. 

 

Do we really have to pretend this doesn't play out everyday across the country, pandemic or not?

 

It seems silly to me.  I wish nothing but good things for Transpy as a human being, but the facts are what they are.  

 

Stay safe.

 

*Again, in my analogy, the presumption is Transplant isn't the Sex Ed teacher at Cardinal O'Hara.  

 

First of all, I'm flattered you're thinking of me.

 

Second of all, you aren't paying attention with your "not one call" bullcrap. Our Governor said this week his plan is to implement a 20% paycut to all federal employees in the Aloha state starting May 1st. Now, I don't expect that's what it'll end up being. I expect something in the range more of a 5% or 10% paycut.

 

And guess what: I'm fine with that. Not 20%. In that case you're talking about mortgages, rents, and food on the table. But 5% or even 10% for a time I accept and understand. We teachers also bore the state's burden after the Great Recession with "Furlough Fridays," which were 18 Fridays teachers were forced not to work--meaning school closures--for a cumulative 8% paycut, which is significant. Any pay cut is significant in a state with the highest standard of living in the country.

 

Third of all, stop putting your problems on teachers. You guys over here seem to bemoan teachers and almost any government workers. I have no idea what most of you do over here, but by the sounds of it, most of you are in the private sector.

 

That was your choice.

 

Many of you likely chose to work in the private sector because you can make more money. And by the sounds of it, there's one or two of you who've retired pretty young, so you did.

 

Good for you.

 

If you just got into the private sector in the last few years, my guess is you're really hurting. And I am genuinely sorry. 

 

But the private sector is also inherently more volatile and you lack the job security you would have as... say... a teacher.

 

I still have a job and I thank God every day that both my wife and I still do--and in case you're wondering, my wife is in the private sector. I have been anticipating discussions about a cut in pay for awhile, and in-state, it came this week. Much like our "Furlough Fridays" when I used those as an extra day to surf and dealt with the blow to my bank account, I will do the same here. I will manage. And I will enjoy my Summer since in Hawai'i state schools would finish a month earlier than on the mainland, anyway... so my Summer will be coming relatively soon.

 

It's funny. Teaching has been my dream job since I was a Freshman in High School. I love it and I'm damn good at it.

 

As much as you and others might want to ridicule me for being a teacher, at the very least, since it's apparently such an easy job to do, I think more of you who are struggling in the private sector not getting a paycheck right now should reconsider and switch to a very rewarding and very stable career as a public school teacher.

 

 

PS: Notice I said "public school teacher." My wife, a product of a private school, has tried to persuade me to teach at a Private school for YEARS where pay is higher... by a little. I would NEVER work at a Private school here, even Punahou, which is where Obama went. 

 

No Union.

 

No Job Security.

 

So maybe you and your Freebird/Sweet Home Alabama lovin should just consider being a teacher rather than pi$$ing and moaning about how good you think teacher's have it--your lifetime earnings might not be as high as what you're going to make in the private sector, but you'll keep you're job if you aren't utterly incompetent

 

Since this is my dream job, anyway, I know I at least love work!

Edited April 18, 2020 by transplantbillsfan

[Hedge]

This is an amusing thread.

 

 

[shoshin]

8 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

The media are those kids you knew in school who loved to spread gossip and discord. Those kids grew up to be journalists. All drama,  and certainly not paying attention in class! .

The people you describe is everyone who posts in social media. 

Edited April 18, 2020 by shoshin

[3rdnlng]

7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

First of all, I'm flattered you're thinking of me.

 

Second of all, you aren't paying attention with your "not one call" bullcrap. Our Governor said this week his plan is to implement a 20% paycut to all federal employees in the Aloha state starting May 1st. Now, I don't expect that's what it'll end up being. I expect something in the range more of a 5% or 10% paycut.

 

And guess what: I'm fine with that. Not 20%. In that case you're talking about mortgages, rents, and food on the table. But 5% or even 10% for a time I accept and understand. We teachers also bore the state's burden after the Great Recession with "Furlough Fridays," which were 18 Fridays teachers were forced not to work--meaning school closures--for a cumulative 8% paycut, which is significant. Any pay cut is significant in a state with the highest standard of living in the country.

 

Third of all, stop putting your problems on teachers. You guys over here seem to bemoan teachers and almost any government workers. I have no idea what most of you do over here, but by the sounds of it, most of you are in the private sector.

 

That was your choice.

 

Many of you likely chose to work in the private sector because you can make more money. And by the sounds of it, there's one or two of you who've retired pretty young, so you did.

 

Good for you.

 

If you just got into the private sector in the last few years, my guess is you're really hurting. And I am genuinely sorry. 

 

But the private sector is also inherently more volatile and you lack the job security you would have as... say... a teacher.

 

I still have a job and I thank God every day that both my wife and I still do--and in case you're wondering, my wife is in the private sector. I have been anticipating discussions about a cut in pay for awhile, and in-state, it came this week. Much like our "Furlough Fridays" when I used those as an extra day to surf and dealt with the blow to my bank account, I will do the same here. I will manage. And I will enjoy my Summer since in Hawai'i state schools would finish a month earlier than on the mainland, anyway... so my Summer will be coming relatively soon.

 

It's funny. Teaching has been my dream job since I was a Freshman in High School. I love it and I'm damn good at it.

 

As much as you and others might want to ridicule me for being a teacher, at the very least, since it's apparently such an easy job to do, I think more of you who are struggling in the private sector not getting a paycheck right now should reconsider and switch to a very rewarding and very stable career as a public school teacher.

 

 

PS: Notice I said "public school teacher." My wife, a product of a private school, has tried to persuade me to teach at a Private school for YEARS where pay is higher... by a little. I would NEVER work at a Private school here, even Punahou, which is where Obama went. 

 

No Union.

 

No Job Security.

 

So maybe you and your Freebird/Sweet Home Alabama lovin should just consider being a teacher rather than pi$$ing and moaning about how good you think teacher's have it--your lifetime earnings might not be as high as what you're going to make in the private sector, but you'll keep you're job if you aren't utterly incompetent

 

Since this is my dream job, anyway, I know I at least love work!

Your governor is going to dictate cuts to federal employees? Since when are Hawaiian teachers federal employees?

[Nanker]

3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Your governor is going to dictate cuts to federal employees? Since when are Hawaiian teachers federal employees?

I caught that too. The Dems are all seeing, all knowing, all powerful, and all smelly. 

[SoCal Deek]

3 hours ago, shoshin said:

The people you describe is everyone who posts in social media. 

We agree there for sure! But, you and I aren’t sitting there badgering the President of the United States trying to spark a grade school cat fight with the Governor of NY while the President is working to cure a nation wide health crisis. I’m going to hope NEITHER of us would be doing that.

[SoCal Deek]

4 minutes ago, Nanker said:

I caught that too. The Dems are all seeing, all knowing, all powerful, and all smelly. 

My wife just retired from public school teaching. It’s great to have someone in the house with a guaranteed public pension. That benefit, and others, used to be one of the primary reasons why people took public sector jobs. Now, the public sector wants everyone to call the what they do “service” and label everything as “essential”. It’s been a slow but very purposeful evolution. The result is that public sector pay has gone up and their influence in the state houses has increased. It shouldn’t be us versus them, but I’ve grown exhausted from the public sector’s whining. I never was before.