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Good decision by Eli "The Patriot Killer" Manning. He may get into the Hall as a wrinkly old man.

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Thanks for the memories Eli :thumbsup:

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2 minutes ago, H2o said:

Thanks for the memories Eli :thumbsup:

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And this four years later...

 

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Thanks for beating the Pats*** 2x, Eli.  Best wishes in your retirement.  

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17 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said:

Always have a soft spot for Eli after his 2 SB wins against NE.

 

...agree BOE......always seemed to be the consummate professional publicly....pretty tall order to play in Peyton's shadow......but two rings certainly deserves kudos.......

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He beat the consensus GOAT twice without spying accusations, substitutions that were banned the next season, air pressure questions, sideline videotaping, or the assistance of a “doctor” who isn’t a licensed physician or his supplements that made Edelman pop for banned substances. He goes in the Hall before Brady in my book without asterisks. 

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Congrats and happy trails to Eli Gump!

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3 hours ago, H2o said:

Thanks for the memories Eli :thumbsup:

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Best play in Superbowl history.

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I honestly don't think anyone cares at this point.   Guy hasn't done squat in a long time.   good but utterly uninspiring career, IMO.  Boring to watch.   I'm sure he's a great guy, etc.  Have a good life EM. 

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12 hours ago, jeremy2020 said:

I saw him play last season. He already retired.

 

I thought he retired 2 years ago ;) 

 

I never really warmed to the guy after the SD draft fiasco  :(

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14 hours ago, H2o said:

Thanks for the memories Eli :thumbsup:

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Would be blown dead nowadays. In the grasp. Patriots ball.

 

 

5 minutes ago, JMF2006 said:

 

I thought he retired 2 years ago ;) 

 

I never really warmed to the guy after the SD draft fiasco  :(


You didn’t warm to a guy who took down the patriots twice in the super bowl?... come on! 

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If he didn't have to live in Archie and Peyton's shadow he might be more well thought of. I think he's a HOF maybe not first ballot but he was an above average QB in the Jim Kelly model. 

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This is long overdue. Eli is the most overrated QB in history bar none. HOF? I can only assume you're trying to be funny.

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4 minutes ago, GreggTX said:

This is long overdue. Eli is the most overrated QB in history bar none. HOF? I can only assume you're trying to be funny.

I think Namath is and he shouldn't be in.  I don't think Eli should get in.  Even in his prime he was never a top 5 quarterback.  He made four pro bowls in 15 full seasons as starter.  Never an all pro.  Led the league in picks three times.  Only made the playoffs one time in his last seven seasons and four times in 15.  Career .500 record.

 

The interesting part of the debate will be whether his playoff success will trump his average starter stats.  Even in the playoffs he had those two magical runs and four one and dones.  However, he's the only quarterback to win the Superbowl twice as a WC team.  He beat some of the best QB's of his generation at their place (Favre, Rodgers, Romo) and came up clutch in the two Superbowls where he won MVP with the GOAT at QB and coach on the other side. He was 7-0 as an underdog away from home during those two runs.   His defense obviously had a lot to do with that but he came up clutch when they needed him most.

 

If there was a Hall of above average he'd definitely get in because of those Superbowl runs, but I don't think two magical runs should trump a career of being a slightly above average starting NFL QB.

 

19 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

If he didn't have to live in Archie and Peyton's shadow he might be more well thought of. I think he's a HOF maybe not first ballot but he was an above average QB in the Jim Kelly model. 

I think the only reason he gets in is he's a Manning.

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Check out his comp% for his first 4 years and people are critical of Josh.

 

This guy had an NFL QB for a father and a sure fire first ballot HOF brother to help him. 

 

Not to mention  having Kurt warner as a mentor.

 

http://www.nfl.com/player/elimanning/2505996/careerstats

 

http://www.footballperspective.com/eli-manning-and-the-hall-of-fame/

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So does anyone else expect him to come out of retirement next year if a contender has an injury to their QB during the season?  

 

I 100% believe this will happen...

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7 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

So does anyone else expect him to come out of retirement next year if a contender has an injury to their QB during the season?  

 

I 100% believe this will happen...

I watched his press conference & the answer is 100% NEVER.  

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8 hours ago, GreggTX said:

This is long overdue. Eli is the most overrated QB in history bar none. HOF? I can only assume you're trying to be funny.

 

You'll be disappointed when he gets in, I take it. He's going to be a hall of famer for sure. Nobody is saying he's in the conversation for best QB ever, or anything. But he won two super bowls, threw for 57,000 yards (7th all time), and over 350 TD's (7th all time). He's a lock. Might not be first ballot, though.

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6 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

I watched his press conference & the answer is 100% NEVER.  

I just think this was a clean way to "retire" as a Giant, stay in shape for when the call comes and then return for one more shot at the play-offs.  But I agree, he does seem done as of right now...

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