Reed83HOF Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Edited December 31, 2019 by Reed83HOF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) DePodesta winning power struggle. Just says look at Bills. Told you McD was the coach we should have hired. Edited December 31, 2019 by MAJBobby 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Nooooo, keep both the HC & GM ya I know they dumped the K sink, 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Dorsey’s job should be in question, especially if the new HC wants his own guy. I personally don’t think Dorsey has been a good GM. He’s better fit for a personnel guy, not face of the FO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I’m not surprised to see Dorsey in jeopardy. He has done an okay job but you need to get the coach. You want him paired with his guy so that they are on the same page. I’d say Caserio and Daboll/McDaniels. They are from Cleveland (except Daboll but he was there) and they are on the same page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’m not surprised to see Dorsey in jeopardy. He has done an okay job but you need to get the coach. You want him paired with his guy so that they are on the same page. I’d say Caserio and Daboll/McDaniels. They are from Cleveland (except Daboll but he was there) and they are on the same page. I hope no one pilfers our FO (Dan Morgan or Schoen) this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, Reed83HOF said: DePodesta Finally won. Took two power struggles over ruled by Haslam when they hired Hugh Jackson instead of McD overrulled again with Dorsey taking Kitchens over McCarthy or Stefanski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: ya I know they dumped the K sink, Sink sank? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: DePodesta Finally won. Took two power struggles over ruled by Haslam when they hired Hugh Jackson instead of McD overrulled again with Dorsey taking Kitchens over McCarthy or Stefanski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I hope no one pilfers our FO (Dan Morgan or Schoen) this year I would think that they are zeroed in on Caserio. He’s leaving this year. My sister’s best friend is his sister-in-law so she spends a lot of time with them. He feels the Pats kind of screwed him last year. He will go. I don’t see a better option than going home with talent in place and your guy at HC. (Although this will be another DePodesta power struggle). Edited December 31, 2019 by Kirby Jackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just a gut feeling. Dosrsey will be fired and Haslam will turn over the keys to Urban Meyer. Pay him a ***** load of money to stay in Ohio. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Dorsey’s job should be in question, especially if the new HC wants his own guy. I personally don’t think Dorsey has been a good GM. He’s better fit for a personnel guy, not face of the FO. One of the things the Browns had better decide is the order of operations and precedence if they're going to be hiring both a coach and a GM. You can hire a coach and let him bring his bud as GM - that seems to have worked out OK for McD You can hire a GM and let him have significant input in the coaching hire The thing that's a problem is to hire them both and hope it works out OK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 This is what happens when you try to build through FA 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: glad they seem to finally be listening to him. Will know for sure with the HC hire. Look for it to be McCarthey or Stefanski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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machine gun kelly Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I read some of those twitter posts, and one of the guys makes a point that he has collected pretty good talent, just royally screwed the pooch on a coaching hire. I wouldn’t fire him, but I would make him use one consultant groups for advice about who to consider hiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, wppete said: Just a gut feeling. Dosrsey will be fired and Haslam will turn over the keys to Urban Meyer. Pay him a ***** load of money to stay in Ohio. Talk about a gamble of epic proportions......... if this actually happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: glad they seem to finally be listening to him. Will know for sure with the HC hire. Look for it to be McCarthey or Stefanski Personally McCarthy makes a ton of sense for them... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Virgil said: This is what happens when you try to build through FA This is what happens when you hire Hugh Jackson and Freddie Kitchens. The Pats and Packers are largely built through FA. You can win a bunch of different ways. You can’t win without a coach. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: This is what happens when you try to build through FA Redskins tried that approach when Dan Snyder bought the team and it failed miserably. Who is worse as an owner, Haslam or Snyder? Edited December 31, 2019 by Jerry Jabber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, machine gun kelly said: I read some of those twitter posts, and one of the guys makes a point that he has collected pretty good talent, just royally screwed the pooch on a coaching hire. I wouldn’t fire him, but I would make him use one consultant groups for advice about who to consider hiring. He does collect good talent and sure as hell can identify it, he has a blind eye towards character and hired a 1st year HC who in no way was going to deal with that collection of players. He also traded their best OL and ended up with Wyatt Teller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: I read some of those twitter posts, and one of the guys makes a point that he has collected pretty good talent, just royally screwed the pooch on a coaching hire. I wouldn’t fire him, but I would make him use one consultant groups for advice about who to consider hiring. they have one. They ignored him twice. Just listen to DePodesta. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: This is what happens when you hire Hugh Jackson and Freddie Kitchens. The Pats and Packers are largely built through FA. You can win a bunch of different ways. You can’t win without a coach. DePodesta deserves this. He is really, really smart, and if he had had more clout previously, the Browns would be in a lot better shape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: This is what happens when you hire Hugh Jackson and Freddie Kitchens. The Pats and Packers are largely built through FA. You can win a bunch of different ways. You can’t win without a coach. The Packers are largely built thru FA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, njbuff said: Talk about a gamble of epic proportions......... if this actually happens. yeah I agree but it’s a very Haslam thing to do. The guy can’t get anything right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, dave mcbride said: DePodesta deserves this. He is really, really smart, and if he had had more clout previously, the Browns would be in a lot better shape. yep. Let’s see if they see it through or if the Haslam cannot resist themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Holy crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, RiotAct said: Holy crap just think where we would be if Haslams did not over ruled DePodesta and Hired McD and Beane instead of Hugh Jackson. Thank you Jimmy Haslam Edited December 31, 2019 by MAJBobby 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: just think where we would be if Haslams did not over ruled DePodesta and Hired McD and Beane. Thank you Jimmy Haslam We should also thank Kim & Terry Pegula for not being meddling owners. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Seems Haslam wants to keep Dorsey but strip him of his power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bills6969 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I feel like the issue with the Browns this year was just really bad coaching. They had talent just no leadership/direction/discipline from Kitchens. They should bring in a guy like Mike McCarthy. I think firing the GM is jumping the gun a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, bills6969 said: I feel like the issue with the Browns this year was just really bad coaching. They had talent just no leadership/direction/discipline from Kitchens. They should bring in a guy like Mike McCarthy. I think firing the GM is jumping the gun a bit. don’t know much about the situation there. The GM is an ego maniac and picked Kitchens because he was his yes man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Absolutely incredible numbers there. And what about the staring QBs during thy time. Haslam is a failure of epic proportions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, wppete said: Absolutely incredible numbers there. And what about the staring QBs during thy time. Haslam is a failure of epic proportions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Here is the list of DePodestas coaches this year. McDaniels, Stefanski, McCarthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Seasons1992 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: Who is worse as an owner, Haslam or Snyder? Haslam is a crook, and Snyder is just dumb. So the answer is YES. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 so this is why Browns trying to set up interviews in Cali 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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