Punching Bag Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 27 minutes ago, the skycap said: Can we quote Rodney Dangerfield?? This one? "I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: I know daboll is the hated flavor of the week for say almost all season, but I would expect he may be a successful head coach. He may not be the best coordinator but that doesn’t always mean you’ll be bad as a head coach. Interesting to see As young as McD might be I think good coaches spin off of good coaches and Daboll is taking notes on how McD is building a championship caliber football team. I for one am not at all a fan of losing Daboll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 29 minutes ago, mattynh said: I am sure this will make people happy since he is the sole reason the Bills did not win the division this year. I am sure a New England player cheapshotting our QB had something to do with it. I just wish someone returned the favor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: He just described Hue Jackson and Pat Shurmur. "2) tough, disciplined, holds players accountable" Under no circumstances describes Hue Jackson EVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: This one? "I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet." I like this psychiatrist joke: My psychiatrist told me I was crazy and I said I want a second opinion. He said okay, you're ugly too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Frankly, I wouldn’t want Daboll to leave unless there was a clearly better option waiting to step in. To have him leave without a seriously good replacement would be a big negative for Allen and the team. This is coming from one of those “ he should be playing Duke guys”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rico said: Mike Pettine, then Brian Daboll. Nice! I thought they pulled the trigger too soon on Pettine in Cleveland.They were a dumpster before he showed up. They got better under him. Edited December 30, 2019 by Mango 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 49 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: They literally had Belichick and fired him. WITH Saban on that staff too. And Kirk Ferentz and Jim Schwartz too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, BobChalmers said: "2) tough, disciplined, holds players accountable" Under no circumstances describes Hue Jackson EVER. Meh, he was screaming at those players all the time on Hard Knocks. And it really doesn't obviously describe Daboll either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) I'm not saying Daboll is the greatest offensive mind, and I've hated a lot of his play calls - but can people here please come to grips with the fact that the offensive talent is still no better than mediocre, even with the replacement of 9 of 11 starters. Josh Allen is the only first round pick on the offense. Think about that for a minute. The defense has 7! Just because they upgraded the OL and WR from absolute trash (last season) to average doesn't mean they are actually good now - they are mediocre. Some others for comparison, Jets 2 Ravens 4 (not counting RG3) Texans 4 Titans 4 (not counting Mariota) Chiefs 3 Tampa Bay 3 Vikings 2 (not the qb) Eagles 4 Bears 1 (though they have a pile of 2's) Cowboys 5 (and not the QB) Seahawks 4 (All 4 are on the OL!!!) Edited December 30, 2019 by BobChalmers 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, pop gun said: Dumbell to the Browns would be an epic failure and must see TV! Josh Allen approves this message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Cueboll...will keep the C in Clowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: ...."has worked for many Head Coaches"....why no "staying power" Joe?........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Sam Rutigliano may be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Lineman can't count to 10... Anyway, this would be a cruelty to the Browns fans. He just described Hue Jackson and Pat Shurmur. Hey now. Olinemen are the smartest position group outside of QB’s. also, did anyone else think of Doug Marrone while reading Thomas’ reasons why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said: Sam Rutigliano may be available. maybe Lou Groza as ST Coach............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I keep thinking about what Adam Schein said today during his show in reference to the Giants. They need to hire a head coach and not another coordinator. I feel like Cleveland should follow this advice. Mcarthey maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Have you seen this team try to run a screen? 2 things we suck at are screens and playaction. I'm sorry to say it's mostly because the QB is terrible at running them. I'll potentially give you screens, but Josh Allen is amazing at play action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 30 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: I'll potentially give you screens, but Josh Allen is amazing at play action. Allen at times can be amazing at everything, it's just more often that he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Take him. We need better at OC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Real McNasty said: Weren't they sold to Baltimore? I'm just so glad this isn't the Bills, we were right there towards the end of the Wilson era. Yes, to the newcomer.....for 400 quatloos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I expect Daboll is better cut out to be a HC than a coordinator based on all the positive feedback he gets as a coach( and the 30th ranked scoring offense type production that reflects his game work as an OC). It happens.......Mike McCarthy wasn't a very good OC but he was a decent HC. But even so.......then the problem is what kind of assistant coach follows shocking hire "Brian Daboll" to Cleveland? I suspect he wouldn't be able to assemble much of a staff. And the Belichick tree is going to be picked about clean after McDaniels, Flores and Vrabel get done adding to their staffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I expect Daboll is better cut out to be a HC than a coordinator based on all the positive feedback he gets as a coach( and the 30th ranked scoring offense type production that reflects his game work as an OC). It happens.......Mike McCarthy wasn't a very good OC but he was a decent HC. But even so.......then the problem is what kind of assistant coach follows shocking hire "Brian Daboll" to Cleveland? I suspect he wouldn't be able to assemble much of a staff. And the Belichick tree is going to be picked about clean after McDaniels, Flores and Vrabel get done adding to their staffs. Daboll is at his professional apex right now. He's not killing it. Only the Peter Principle (and Jimmy Haslam) would lead to him being elevated to HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BADOLBILZ Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: My inclination is hoping Daboll stays one more season so that Allen isn't changing systems while the game hasn't slowed down for him yet. But I didn't want to lose Pettine............and Schwartz was better for the Bills. And I didn't want to fire Roman..........but Anthony Lynn was WAY BETTER calling plays from Roman's playbook than Roman. The Bills could just as easily find someone who is versed in an EP system who is just a better game caller and be better for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Troll Toll Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 3 hours ago, BobChalmers said: I'm not saying Daboll is the greatest offensive mind, and I've hated a lot of his play calls - but can people here please come to grips with the fact that the offensive talent is still no better than mediocre, even with the replacement of 9 of 11 starters. Josh Allen is the only first round pick on the offense. Think about that for a minute. The defense has 7! Just because they upgraded the OL and WR from absolute trash (last season) to average doesn't mean they are actually good now - they are mediocre. Some others for comparison, Jets 2 Ravens 4 (not counting RG3) Texans 4 Titans 4 (not counting Mariota) Chiefs 3 Tampa Bay 3 Vikings 2 (not the qb) Eagles 4 Bears 1 (though they have a pile of 2's) Cowboys 5 (and not the QB) Seahawks 4 (All 4 are on the OL!!!) This times a million! I was saying the same thing all offseason. Seemed like many thought signing some middle tier free agents would elevate us from worst supporting cast to top 10 supporting cast. I had a thread that got shut down because I was pissed we passed on AJ Brown. Now he is the front runner for Offensive Rookie of the Year. I doubt we find a better receiver in the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, BADOLBILZ said: My inclination is hoping Daboll stays one more season so that Allen isn't changing systems while the game hasn't slowed down for him yet. But I didn't want to lose Pettine............and Schwartz was better for the Bills. And I didn't want to fire Roman..........but Anthony Lynn was WAY BETTER calling plays from Roman's playbook than Roman. The Bills could just as easily find someone who is versed in an EP system who is just a better game caller and be better for it. I entirely agree and was/am hoping for 1-2 more years with him for Allen. It falls more on the developmental aspect of it for Allen is where my concern lies. There is also a chance that he doesn't want to place his HC career prospects with Haslam as an owner, the track record of the HCs and in abilities to get hired after, Dorsey's drafting of questionable characters, etc. Not so sure he would just jump for that. With the rep he has right now he can be a bit more selective IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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