YoloinOhio Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, frogger said: I agree with everyone’s take, he should be a Bill for the foreseeable future. however...these are the people (or at the very a part) who let josh Norman leave, hindsight says it was a good decision, but at the time it seemed like he was the best CB. how much do they value CB? They have addressed it with mid round picks, other team’s castaways and an udfa, outside of White. But, he is special and we need to, maybe not this offseason though. Sign Phillips, ext Poyer and get more talent in FA. I don’t know think the situations are similar. First, we don’t know how much either McD or Beane had to do with the decisions around Norman as neither were in decision making roles. Secondly, Norman was a 6th rd pick from a small school who emerged as a good player, but was more of a late bloomer. And they didn’t just decide to let him walk, they tagged him and then he had a fit because he’s a head case and they pulled the tag eventually, and he was never the same player. The players and and the situations are pretty different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t know think the situations are similar. First, we don’t know how much either McD or Beane had to do with the decisions around Norman as neither were in decision making roles. Secondly, Norman was a 6th rd pick from a small school who emerged as a good player, but was more of a late bloomer. And they didn’t just decide to let him walk, they tagged him and then he had a fit because he’s a head case and they pulled the tag eventually, and he was never the same player. The players and and the situations are pretty different. Plus, Josh Norman is quite an odd character in general to say the least. He and Tre's attitudes are not similar in any way either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 10 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: 64 years $324,645,765,000 That's the kind of contract I would offer McCaffrey and Kuechly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 He’ll be the highest paid corner and I think it’d be wise to pay him a year early, he’s worth it. Might as well sign Shaq and Jordan Phillips as well. Same goes for Feliciano and Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s kind of what the Eagles did with Wentz Yup. There have been a few teams trying to get their most expensive players under extensions before the new CBA hits and the cap takes a big jump up. Both the CBA and White’s rookie deal expire after the 2020 season. White’s option year is 2021. Normally I would think that a long term deal would get done after 2020, but there’s a chance that an extension gets done early due to that situation. White would get a very large chunk of cash sooner than usual and the Bills would save a few bucks overall. It’d be a good deal for both sides and could happen as early March 2020 when White’s third season is officially complete, though a deal could be agreed to prior to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Saw this started thinking... 16/yr? Pay him decent money ..... and use a Cheatriots capology tool - Funnel $ from the Sabres to his Hockey exploits to offset the delta of top $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Usually im thrilled about huge contracts for DB's but in this case, pay the man whatever he wants. He has earned it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 If Bills wait until after the Ramsey Extension they are going to pay. I am expecting if they can get it done before the Ramsey Deal it likely will be in the 14-15M range if they do it this offseason. If they wait until after Ramsey or longer in his contract is likely will be closer to 18M-20M AVV. Now the question is with 3 more years of contract: Next Year, 5th year Option, Franchise Tag will bill approach? I am thinking they wait until after next year (picking up 5th year option this offseason) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) SPOTRAC lists his market value at 14.1M. If I open the bidding now, I start at 5-year 65M, with 35M guaranteed, probably have to pay 75M with 40M guaranteed. In another year, if Tre is still healthy, you'll have to start at 5-year 75M, with 40M guaranteed, and end up at 85M with 45M guaranteed. The Bills should lock him up ASAP, it will save them money. Also, forgot about the CBA. Get the deal done now before the new CBA kicks in. Edited November 25, 2019 by Freddie's Dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 He will get a lower 5th year option because he wasnt a top ten pick. But with the cap going up to an expected 212 Million in 2021, he should get 17 Million a year based on the adjusted cap. 4/68 Million is what I'd expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I will guess 5 years and $80M with $50 gtd. SB of $30M First-year gtd salary of $5M 2nd year gtd salary of $10M Gtd roster bonus of $5M in year 3 I bet it gets done post 2020 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 15 hours ago, wvbillsfan said: Whatever the highest paid corner contract is when he gets to his contract year he’s gonna break it. This. He and Lattimore will be battling for that highest paid corner spot. I bet Tre gets it, just like Winfield, Clements and Gilmore before him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, NewEra said: This. He and Lattimore will be battling for that highest paid corner spot. I bet Tre gets it, just like Winfield, Clements and Gilmore before him As in "gets it but not from the Bills?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: As in "gets it but not from the Bills?" Sure hope not. I believe we’ll pay that man. If anyone ever deserved it, it’s Tre. Special player. Special person 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, NewEra said: Sure hope not. I believe we’ll pay that man. If anyone ever deserved it, it’s Tre. Special player. Special person Yep. I don't think there is any way they let him go. He also doesn't appear to be the greedy sort, and seems to love it in Buffalo. They will sign him and take care of him very well. He's every bit a McDermott guy, and even more so as a DB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Pay him .... literally whatever he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 16 hours ago, ganesh said: White won't be paid next year. They will simply pick up his 5th year option. They first have to pay Poyer, Phillips and Dawkins at first level and Lawson at 2nd level. Why would they pay Dawkins "at first level"? He's not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Give him more than Mahomes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 14 hours ago, Estro said: Right now the top of the CB market is $15.05M per year.......so that's where negotiations will begin. If you get him under contract soon you're looking at 15.5ish M per......if you wait another year, it'll probably be in the $16-17 M per range as more contracts get done. but you benefit from a year in his prime at $1.8m in cash paid. So it’s all a trade off. its not like the bills and his agent aren’t looking at his overall career worth based on when it slots up though. 19 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I will guess 5 years and $80M with $50 gtd. SB of $30M First-year gtd salary of $5M 2nd year gtd salary of $10M Gtd roster bonus of $5M in year 3 I bet it gets done post 2020 season. tagged on the end of this deal, or replacing his final year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 16 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: they likely value Tre much more than any of those guys. Giving him a well earned extension and bypassing the 5th year option is likely in thest interest for everyone. I'll believe that the Bills value Tre White enough to pay him the going rate for a top DB when they actually pay him. They've never paid one of the great/good DBs they've developed market value in two decades, most notably when they let Antoine Winfield walk away about fifteen years ago and most recently when they let All Pro Stephon Gilmore walk. What they do about White will tell us whether the Beane/McDermott regime is truly different from their predecessors or if it's the same old/same old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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