RyanC883 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Brown has been a stud. Esp. considering that he is likely drawing significant coverage from the other teams secondary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: To me, this thread is more of a credit to Josh Allen than John Brown. Get some top tier receivers like Mike Evans in Buffalo and watch Josh ball! i know when allen was throwing all those interceptions early in the year that was on the receivers too right? Lol. Good screenname btw. Suits you. Can you not give Brown credit where credit’s deserved? He was off to a career year in BAL last year until Lamar was thrown in there before they taught him how to pass. Cmon my man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 7 hours ago, TigerJ said: Since the New England game, the prescription for beating the Bills' offense has been to play Cover three with man coverage on the outside. That has meant John Brown just needed to be able to beat man coverage, which he can do against a lot of DBs. If his success forces defenses to double up on Brown, or shift to more of a zone look, that will open up things somewhere else. Hopefully, Josh will have the ability to make the reads and adjust. That will mean opportunities for others. Maybe it's been pointed out already, but "Cover-3 with man coverage on the outside" doesn't fully make sense. Cover-3 resembles man coverage on the boundaries in many ways, but it's different. If you combine the Cover-3 and "man coverage on the outside" what you're really proposing is a Cover-ONE man scheme, which I agree IS a smart defense against the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: i know when allen was throwing all those interceptions early in the year that was on the receivers too right? Lol. Good screenname btw. Suits you. Can you not give Brown credit where credit’s deserved? He was off to a career year in BAL last year until Lamar was thrown in there before they taught him how to pass. Cmon my man The receivers have regularly dropped passes that hit them in the hands and have been outmuscled by bigger defensive backs. A lot of the passes Josh completes to Brown are due to Josh’s anticipation. Brown has not had numbers this good with any other QB. I’m shocked that there is anyone that can bash Allen for maximizing John Brown’s production, but to each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: The receivers have regularly dropped passes that hit them in the hands and have been outmuscled by bigger defensive backs. A lot of the passes Josh completes to Brown are due to Josh’s anticipation. Brown has not had numbers this good with any other QB. I’m shocked that there is anyone that can bash Allen for maximizing John Brown’s production, but to each their own. Sorry if I wasn’t clear - Allen gets most of the credit and it’s well deserved. I also think Brown is a bit underrated and none of the drops earlier in the year are really on him (we can blame Zay, Beasley, and Knox for most of those.) I just wince at trying to boost the opinion that Allen is 100% responsible for Brown’s emergence. Again, look at the numbers from BAL last year before flacco got benched. but Allen was ballin’ on Sunday no question about it. EDIT: and full disclosure, i’ve been a huge John Brown fan since his days in Arizona. Edited November 19, 2019 by JoPoy88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 From Fairburn in The Athletic: Stats that matter 78.6 That’s the percentage of John Brown’s reception that have resulted in a first down. Of players who have at least two catches per game, that ranks ninth in the NFL. Brown may not be the prototypical No. 1 receiver, but he’s producing like one this season. If he keeps performing at this pace, he has a chance to best Eric Moulds’ single-season franchise record of 1,368 receiving yards. With 817 yards through 10 games, Brown should at least become Buffalo’s first 1,200-yard receiver since Lee Evans in 2006. Sunday was Brown’s best game yet, as he put up 137 yards and two touchdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Potential worry is that he will start to be double teamed and we have no real viable threat on the outside unless they can get Foster going. They’ve been using Mckenzie a lot but he’s not a real WR2 more of a WR 4 I would think teams are doubling him already, we don’t really have another weapon. Either that or they don’t have to bodies to double cover him because they are worried about Allen running. Either way he should be able to keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Maybe it's been pointed out already, but "Cover-3 with man coverage on the outside" doesn't fully make sense. Cover-3 resembles man coverage on the boundaries in many ways, but it's different. If you combine the Cover-3 and "man coverage on the outside" what you're really proposing is a Cover-ONE man scheme, which I agree IS a smart defense against the Bills. I haven't really studied it carefully, but do the Bills really get that much man coverage underneath with a QB who can run like Allen? What do they do, leave a spy on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: well, how do you get Foster going with ZERO offensive snaps? Foster is the most perplexing player usage ever in my memory...too bad we don't get to see practice... I would add, Foster and Williams. At least Williams was productive when he was out there. And certainly Foster was last year when given significant playing time. It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma ?????? Edited November 19, 2019 by CSBill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 10 hours ago, TPS said: yeah, me-thinks mckenzie doesn't strike fear in the hearts of our opponents... All I know, is when he touches the football the excitement level goes up. His quickness is unmatched, when they get the ball to him in space, really good things happen. Daboll has used him well this season, but I do not recall any Jet Sweeps on Sunday, did I miss that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halloween Land Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Kelce leads to AFC after last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 13 hours ago, Tesla03 said: Mckenzie shouldn't even be a WR4. I really don't get why Duke Williams isn't on the gameday roster. I wonder what the price would be to get a guy like Mike Evans Last chance to play nice with other kids. Not telling you again, young man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, CSBill said: All I know, is when he touches the football the excitement level goes up. His quickness is unmatched, when they get the ball to him in space, really good things happen. Daboll has used him well this season, but I do not recall any Jet Sweeps on Sunday, did I miss that? No sweeps. As many have noted, they need someone who is a legitimate WR on the other side. McKenzie can still do his role part-time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Halloween Land said: Kelce leads to AFC after last night Still hasn’t had his bye yet. Think it comes this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said: Still hasn’t had his bye yet. Think it comes this week. Yes they are off this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 FAKE NEWS We all know Smoke Brown isn't a #1 WR and Josh Allen is inaccurate as hell. Kudo's Mr Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 17 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Very nice! On pace for 1300 yards for the (regular) season. That's really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 espn has a "best at everything" article today judging the NFL's best at 60 different categories.... Best wide receiver by route: hitch John Brown, Buffalo Bills Brown most notably recorded two hitch-route first downs against Cleveland in Week 10, as he has been unstoppable on the route this season. He has more yards and first downs than any other receiver on hitches, hauling in 16 catches for 193 yards and 12 first downs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 “Watch this dude, he's a number one wide receiver. John Brown deserves your respect.” Let 'em know, @KyleBrandt! GMFB Brightest Stars: John Brown vid in the GMFB Love thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 TB has 2 WR in the top 3 and they are 3-7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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