Deranged Rhino Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Here OJ, try on these gloves... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, GG said: May as well ask why no aid was given to Ukraine for 3 years after the Russian invasion, despite its clear national interest to the US. Zelensky Poroshenko (7 June 2014 – 20 May 2019) 73.22% 24.45% April 2019 corruption ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, GG said: May as well ask why no aid was given to Ukraine for 3 years after the Russian invasion, despite its clear national interest to the US. Because like everything else, they were against/for it before they were for/against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, ALF said: Zelensky Poroshenko (7 June 2014 – 20 May 2019) 73.22% 24.45% April 2019 corruption ? That's too simplistic. The real reason is that Obama didn't want to start a direct fight with Putin by arming Ukraine, and used Ukraine as the pawn in the game (evidenced by the leaked Nuland/Pyatt call in 2014) One of these days the true story will come out of who was truly afraid of antagonizing Russia. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 So that Holmes guy will be running for Congress as a D next year, huh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, GG said: That's too simplistic. The real reason is that Obama didn't want to start a direct fight with Putin by arming Ukraine, and used Ukraine as the pawn in the game (evidenced by the leaked Nuland/Pyatt call in 2014) One of these days the true story will come out of who was truly afraid of antagonizing Russia. It's the reason he pulled out of European Missile Defense and told Putin, through Medvedev, not to start ***** until after he was elected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Nanker said: It’s the Dems worst nightmare that the Senate opens up the impeachment trial of President Trump. First witness called - Ciaramella, Second - Schiff, Third, Brennan, and on and on and on. AND they’ll be playing under Cocaine Mitch’s Nuclear rules. The part that's going to be interesting is who will show up. I can't see how this can proceed w/o the courts deciding which subpoenas must be honored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rob's House Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said: If Trump is impeached (and thrown out) he could still run in the election and then serve for 8 more years, correct? It depends. Removal and disqualification from ever serving office are both constitutional sanctions, but they require separate votes in the Senate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Foxx said: meh, they're just going for two scoops. ? or.... https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/1197643367666126848 jon voight? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 42 minutes ago, dubs said: jon voight? The periodontist? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 American people fear right wing violence https://www.newsweek.com/voters-trump-impeachment-violence-poll-1473389 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 11 hours ago, GG said: One of these days the true story will come out of who was truly afraid of antagonizing Russia. I know which day, but I won't tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 6 hours ago, Hedge said: Which is exactly why the House will vote to impeach. They'll pass this hot potato off to the Senate who will be more than happy to run with it. The continued attention will further piss off the public and the Republicans in the Senate will be the ones left to look bad. Both sides are tone deaf to the public and the Republicans will be the ones left holding the bag. The Democrats don’t care about anyone being exposed or looking bad. They'll gladly sacrifice a handful of people to make the overall republican party look bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 52 minutes ago, Joe Miner said: Which is exactly why the House will vote to impeach. They'll pass this hot potato off to the Senate who will be more than happy to run with it. The continued attention will further piss off the public and the Republicans in the Senate will be the ones left to look bad. Both sides are tone deaf to the public and the Republicans will be the ones left holding the bag. The Democrats don’t care about anyone being exposed or looking bad. They'll gladly sacrifice a handful of people to make the overall republican party look bad. i don't understand this logic. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) With the impeachment vote being along party lines, likely with a few Dems breaking ranks, and the trial in the Senate exposing them, I think this will blow up in their faces. Edited November 22, 2019 by Doc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: American people fear right wing violence https://www.newsweek.com/voters-trump-impeachment-violence-poll-1473389 Nothing to see here, The Left fears everything. Everything except an all powerful government telling them what to think and do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Nothing to see here, The Left fears everything. Everything except an all powerful government telling them what to think and do. What it means is that the threat of terrorism is aiding and abetting lawlessness at the top of government. This can only get worse from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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