The Sham Impeachment Inquiry & Whistleblower Saga: A Race to Get Ahead of the OIG

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, Figster said:

I think If Trump didn't push for an investigation on Hunter Bidden he wouldn't be watching out for the best interest of the country in my humble opinion Tiberius. 

He was only looking out for his own interests there. Trump does not care about corruption at all. The guys he was using to get dirt on Biden have been indicted and Rudy himself is in serious trouble. 

 

How many Trump associates are in jail or legal trouble? 

2 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Sinks in the swirling bowl?  Even if he was in the bowl which he is not he could never occupy a stop that you are already stuck in.  5 dollar word bonus at the cubicle farm for mentioning Acosta 100 times this week?

Acosta? You know that is all dirty right? The guy got a child predator off easy and Trump appointed him to the cabinet! That’s sick, don’t you agree? 

2 minutes ago, Figster said:

I think Nunes and co. are doing a great job representing Trump,

 

and he needs to chill...

I actually agree. To survive the impeachment, Nunes is holding the line with the right. But for the longer game 

(November 2020) it’s a disaster for Trump. 

[DC Tom]

Just now, Figster said:

I think Nunes and co. are doing a great job representing Trump,

 

and he needs to chill...

 

Trump's need to chill for 30 years. He won't.  It's his shtick.  He wouldn't be Trump if he could shut the hell up.

 

It's why I disagree with your interpretation: Trump's behavior is consistent with the escalating frustration of a normal politician losing it.  But that's not a context that applies to Trump.  And in the context of "Trump," this behavior is just normal.  He's not nonplussed by this, he's just an overgrown adolescent.

[Koko78]

1 minute ago, westside2 said:

With the economy booming and more people working, I don't think not being crazy would be enough to beat Trump in 2020. Especially with the pathetically weak field of democrats they have running.

 

Maybe not directly defeat him in the election, but defeat him by taking the Senate. A lot of people don't like Trump. More people now hate the Democrats because of their irrational resistance and insane policy proposals.

[DC Tom]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

I actually agree. To survive the impeachment, Nunes is holding the line with the right. But for the longer game 

(November 2020) it’s a disaster for Trump. 

 

It is truly bizarre how the country lives in two completely different and inaccurate alternate realities right now.  

[Figster]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

He was only looking out for his own interests there. Trump does not care about corruption at all. The guys he was using to get dirt on Biden have been indicted and Rudy himself is in serious trouble. 

 

How many Trump associates are in jail or legal trouble? 

How corrupt was the Russian collusion witch hunt?

 

 

[Koko78]

23 minutes ago, Figster said:

Myself personally,

 

I think proving to the American people Trump is way out of line and off his rocker is more the plan in my humble opinion.

 

The Trump tweet of the ambassador yesterday for instance...

 

You keep forgetting that most people just don't care about what he says. Look at the 'p.ussy grabbing' video from before the 2016 election. It didn't move the needle. People know who Donald J. Trump is. Many don't like him and would probably vote for a rational alternative. There are none.

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, Figster said:

How corrupt was the Russian collusion witch hunt?

 

 

You mean the lying and Stone walling by Trump or the crime itself of undermining our democracy? 

 

 

Stones conviction shows how the investigation was hampered by more crimes. 

[row_33]

11 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

You keep forgetting that most people just don't care about what he says. Look at the 'p.ussy grabbing' video from before the 2016 election. It didn't move the needle. People know who Donald J. Trump is. Many don't like him and would probably vote for a rational alternative. There are none.

anyone who bothered to listen to the contents knew it was just men BS’ing 

 

taping it and using it to screw over a friend is a dirty lousy rat thing to do

 

 

[Figster]

4 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Trump's need to chill for 30 years. He won't.  It's his shtick.  He wouldn't be Trump if he could shut the hell up.

 

It's why I disagree with your interpretation: Trump's behavior is consistent with the escalating frustration of a normal politician losing it.  But that's not a context that applies to Trump.  And in the context of "Trump," this behavior is just normal.  He's not nonplussed by this, he's just an overgrown adolescent.

I agree with everything you say, Trumps behavior is consistent. Diplomacy need not apply.

 

I think a big reason why the country will stay divided until the Trump presidency is over IMO.

[row_33]

Trump won’t be alive for 30 more years, with all due respect

 

[Dr. Who]

25 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

You mean the tweet that defended his right to his act of firing her six months ago that was somehow perceived as "witness intimidation?"

 

Who's off their rocker again?

Obama fired W's ambassadors en masse back in 2008. No one said a word.

[row_33]

Just now, Dr. Who said:

Obama fired W's ambassadors en masse back in 2008. No one said a word.

that’s the right of a new administration, should clean out all the legal hires as well

 

 

[Rob's House]

 

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

 

So he was just convicted for nothing! Ya! That’s believable 

?

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, Figster said:

I agree with everything you say, Trumps behavior is consistent. Diplomacy need not apply.

 

I think a big reason why the country will stay divided until the Trump presidency is over IMO.

Honestly, the reasons for the divide are substantial, not surface. The left is totalitarian. The only abiding peace they permit is a cowed or absent opposition. Trump annoys progressives because he is immune to their intimidation and too rough a figure to feel the sort of attacks and coercive behavior that were effective for generations against standard GOP champions. He doesn't care that liberal elites think he is a bufoon, nor is he interested in the praise of academics and media talking heads. The folk, who are equally fed up and alienated, and know they're not stupid just because they disagree with leftist consensus aren't going to disappear when the Trump presidency is over.

7 minutes ago, row_33 said:

that’s the right of a new administration, should clean out all the legal hires as well

 

 

Yes, I agree, but when Trump does it to the snowflake in Ukraine the media cabal suggests it is perhaps an impeachable offense. Just pointing out the ludicrous and the hypocritical.

[Tiberius]

23 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

You keep forgetting that most people just don't care about what he says. Look at the 'p.ussy grabbing' video from before the 2016 election. It didn't move the needle. People know who Donald J. Trump is. Many don't like him and would probably vote for a rational alternative. There are none.

There is no rational alternative to Trump. He’s just the best this country can do. ?

 

A racist man-child, who is completely incompetent, corrupt and beholden to Putin..h mmm. 

 

 

Pence could do a a better job, imo 

 

 

So could Hillary, and my cat. George, my goofy neighbor, too. Heck, @westside2 would be better 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

 

[Nanker]

16 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Obama fired W's ambassadors en masse back in 2008. No one said a word.

And the US Attorneys. It's what incoming Presidents do. They routinely ask for the resignation of all incumbent US Attorneys. 

This practice goes back a long way on both sides of the aisle. 

[Dr. Who]

2 minutes ago, Nanker said:

And the US Attorneys. It's what incoming Presidents do. They routinely ask for the resignation of all incumbent US Attorneys. 

This practice goes back a long way on both sides of the aisle. 

Yes, I know. Only when Trump does something precedent becomes a unique, treasonous event.

[Koko78]

21 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

There is no rational alternative to Trump. He’s just the best this country can do. ?

 

A racist man-child, who is completely incompetent, corrupt and beholden to Putin..h mmm.

 

If your description of Trump is true, then how pathetic are the Democrats that they just can't beat him?

[RochesterRob]

2 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

If your description of Trump is true, then how pathetic are the Democrats that they just can't beat him?

  Tiberius's inner thoughts betray him.  He is finished here as a paid sycophant.  He can no longer peddle Biden or Warren with an admission such as that.  

27 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

There is no rational alternative to Trump. He’s just the best this country can do. ?

 

A racist man-child, who is completely incompetent, corrupt and beholden to Putin..h mmm. 

 

 

Pence could do a a better job, imo 

 

 

So could Hillary, and my cat. George, my goofy neighbor, too. Heck, @westside2 would be better 

 

  Let the echo of "He's (Trump) just the best this country can do" be heard through out the land.

[row_33]

22 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Yes, I know. Only when Trump does something precedent becomes a unique, treasonous event.

when Republicans do it

 

 

[3rdnlng]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Glad you want me around! 

 

As Trumps president sinks deeper in the swirling bowl, you guys will need someone to vent to. I will be here for you!  

 

And double standards? Biden is corrupt but the Acosta child raping Epstein thing is nothing? Ya right! 

 

Just admit it, Trump is the worst scum bag by a mile. Even if Biden robbed a bank at gun point, that still doesn’t beat the Trump/Epstein/Acosta corruption. 

 

Oh ya, and the impeachment corruption...almost forgot about that, lol 

I’ll say this, it’s pretty remarkable how little the country is paying attention to this impeachment. Local newspapers are barley covering it. When the Clinton bj thing happened, the corporate press was going wild. 

Now that's a waste of good food.

[Doc]

Why does he keep bringing-up Acosta?  Especially when Epstein was Bill and Hill's BFF.

[Tiberius]

24 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

If your description of Trump is true, then how pathetic are the Democrats that they just can't beat him?

He beat all the Republicans first. And you can’t argue with the fact that Hillary got more votes, she did. Blame the founding fathers, the Democrats did all they could to keep this idiot out of government. 

 

You guys should have nominated a decent candidate 

5 minutes ago, Doc said:

Why does he keep bringing-up Acosta?  Especially when Epstein was Bill and Hill's BFF.

Trump appointed him to the cabinet even after (more probably because) it was well known the guy got Epstein out of jail to rape more children. 

 

You have to agree thats terrible.

Edited November 16, 2019 by Tiberius

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

46 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

There is no rational alternative to Trump. He’s just the best this country can do. ?

 

A racist man-child, who is completely incompetent, corrupt and beholden to Putin..h mmm. 

 

 

Pence could do a a better job, imo 

 

 

So could Hillary, and my cat. George, my goofy neighbor, too. Heck, @westside2 would be better 

 

 

 

...doesn't continually talking out of your arse cause irritable bowel syndrome?......

[RochesterRob]

4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

He beat all the Republicans first. And you can’t argue with the fact that Hillary got more votes, she did. Blame the founding fathers, the Democrats did all they could to keep this idiot out of government. 

 

You guys should have nominated a decent candidate 

Trump appointed him to the cabinet even after (more probably because) it was well known he guy got Epstein out of jail to rape more children. 

 

You have to agree thats terrible.

  Actually, you can argue with that.  1.6 million illegitimate votes in LA alone.  Your hysteria is very evident.  Saying Acosta 20 X per day is not going to help you.  Time for you to move away from the false gods that you worship.  

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

Having watched and listened to as much testimony as I could I have drawn a few conclusions so far.

 

1) Donald Trump absolutely used the power of his office to steer an investigation to investigate a political rival, no matter what fallout might occur.

 

2) The MAGA cult doesn't give a *****. 

 

3) Because the MAGA cult doesn't give a *****, there is about a 0% chance that the Senate will remove the president.

 

And everyone has pretty much known this. Everything the Dems are doing isn't to try to actually change minds, or get Trump out of office. It's about making the case for 2020, and everyone know it. Can we at least agree to that?

[Buffalo_Gal]

This Financial Times article published August 28, 2016 shows everyone and their brother knew the Ukraine favored Hillary over Trump and was working to bring about Hillary's election by any means possible.  Yovanovitch was sworn in on August 12, 2016, and presented her credentials on August 29, 2016.

What was it she testified to yesterday ? 

[3rdnlng]

Did someone open a bottle of catnip oil here in PPP? All of the pussies seem to be showing up.

 

 

That wasn't directed at you BG.

Edited November 16, 2019 by 3rdnlng

[Buffalo_Gal]

Just now, 3rdnlng said:

Did someone open a bottle of catnip oil here in PPP? All of the pussies seem to be showing up.

I notice people either show up in droves hoping to push a narrative, disappear because the chosen narrative is being destroyed, or just come down to troll. It doesn't help that so many seem to enjoy trolling the trolls right back. ?‍♀️  Ignore is your friend. 

[Koko78]

37 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

...the Democrats did all they could to keep this idiot out of government.

 

All those listed flaws, yet the Democrats still can't beat him. Couldn't beat him in 2016. Can't beat him in 2020.

 

Pathetic.

[Figster]

9 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Having watched and listened to as much testimony as I could I have drawn a few conclusions so far.

 

1) Donald Trump absolutely used the power of his office to steer an investigation to investigate a political rival, no matter what fallout might occur.

 

2) The MAGA cult doesn't give a *****. 

 

3) Because the MAGA cult doesn't give a *****, there is about a 0% chance that the Senate will remove the president.

 

And everyone has pretty much known this. Everything the Dems are doing isn't to try to actually change minds, or get Trump out of office. It's about making the case for 2020, and everyone know it. Can we at least agree to that?

I can agree with that

 

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

This Financial Times article published August 28, 2016 shows everyone and their brother knew the Ukraine favored Hillary over Trump and was working to bring about Hillary's election by any means possible.  Yovanovitch was sworn in on August 12, 2016, and presented her credentials on August 29, 2016.

What was it she testified to yesterday ? 

So on one hand we have an administration willing enough to take a stand against Russian oppression, another that offers blankets by way of comfort and protection.

 

Whom do you suppose Russia would favor, and its not a surprise Hillary feels compelled to join the race IMO. 

[Koko78]

19 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Having watched and listened to as much testimony as I could I have drawn a few conclusions so far.

 

1) Donald Trump absolutely used the power of his office to steer an investigation to investigate a political rival, no matter what fallout might occur.

 

2) The MAGA cult doesn't give a *****. 

 

3) Because the MAGA cult doesn't give a *****, there is about a 0% chance that the Senate will remove the president.

 

And everyone has pretty much known this. Everything the Dems are doing isn't to try to actually change minds, or get Trump out of office. It's about making the case for 2020, and everyone know it. Can we at least agree to that?

 

Well, the NPCs certainly got their most recent programming update...

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

A quick summary of Trump defenses for those playing at home:

 

-It's all hearsay, which is why we are forbidding the people who would have direct knowledge from testifying under oath.

 

-It wasn't a quid pro quo, we just asked for a favor in return for something.

 

-So what if it was a quid pro quo, everyone does it, which is why we disguised it.

 

-What we really care about is getting rid of corruption, which is why got rid of the diplomat who was getting rid of corruption. By the way, why do people care about Trump awarding himself the bid for a summit? That was totally aboveboard and deserves no one looking into it. Also, lets ignore the EPA chief he appointed with a stunning track record of corruption that he refused to fire.

 

-So what if he got rid of an ambassador! He has the absolute right to dismiss them for being Deep State Never Trumpers who he selected for their jobs. Stable genius.

 

-We gave them the money anyway, so there is no reason to think there was any extortion. See, there it is, being released, right after reports arrived in the press that we were extorting them.

 

I would say this is Marx brothers level material, but people here would accuse me of associating with a communist. ?

2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Did someone open a bottle of catnip oil here in PPP? All of the people who get ***** pussies seem to be showing up.

 

 

That wasn't directed at you BG.

Aww we missed you too. And fixed it for you, common mistake.

 

 No, it's because current events have made us laugh us out of the stunned silence at the MAGA denials.

8 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

Well, the NPCs certainly got their most recent programming update...

 

You bet! Can you believe the absolute trash the Trump fans are buying?

 

*realized who he is talking to*

 

*walks backward slowly*

[Doc]

57 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Trump appointed him to the cabinet even after (more probably because) it was well known the guy got Epstein out of jail to rape more children. 

 

You have to agree thats terrible.

you know what’s worse? Bills flying on Epstein‘s plane dozens of times doing who knows what.  And Hillary likely knowing what was going on.

 

As for Acosta, he had to do what his puppet masters told him to do. For obvious reasons.

[Rob's House]

8 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Having watched and listened to as much testimony as I could I have drawn a few conclusions so far.

 

1) Donald Trump absolutely used the power of his office to steer an investigation to investigate a political rival, no matter what fallout might occur.

 

2) The MAGA cult doesn't give a *****. 

 

3) Because the MAGA cult doesn't give a *****, there is about a 0% chance that the Senate will remove the president.

 

And everyone has pretty much known this. Everything the Dems are doing isn't to try to actually change minds, or get Trump out of office. It's about making the case for 2020, and everyone know it. Can we at least agree to that?

 

Can we also agree that the Trump is Hitler cult doesn't give half a sh!t whether the President squeezed Ukraine for info on Biden, and that all the impeachment nonsense is political theater?

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Rob's House said:

 

Can we also agree that the Trump is Hitler cult doesn't give half a sh!t whether the President squeezed Ukraine for info on Biden, and that all the impeachment nonsense is political theater?

Or that the Dems tried to make up dirt on Trump and entrap him in order to remove him from office?

[Westside]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

 

Acosta? You know that is all dirty right? The guy got a child predator off easy and Trump appointed him to the cabinet! That’s sick, don’t you agree? 

 

Coming from someone who laughed at the Americans who died in Benghazi, I find your outrage over Acosta full of schiff. Spare me your moral outrage, since you've never shown to have any morals before. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

38 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Having watched and listened to as much testimony as I could I have drawn a few conclusions so far.

 

1) Donald Trump absolutely used the power of his office to steer an investigation to investigate a political rival, no matter what fallout might occur.

 

2) The MAGA cult doesn't give a *****. 

 

3) Because the MAGA cult doesn't give a *****, there is about a 0% chance that the Senate will remove the president.

 

And everyone has pretty much known this. Everything the Dems are doing isn't to try to actually change minds, or get Trump out of office. It's about making the case for 2020, and everyone know it. Can we at least agree to that?

 

 

...how exactly would you define MAGA?.....is "make America great again" a fallacious ruse?.....did he seek the presidency for power, substanial salary, wealth, a book deal, his own library and free transportation on Air Force One and Marine One?....how many times has the fickle electorate yearned for a "Washington outsider" to clean up the stench?.....and how many times have "Washington insiders" run fraudulently as "outsiders" to no avail?....so we finally get a real "Washington outsider" who is crass, abrupt, condescending, abrasive, abusive, irascible, etc and is doing exactly what the establishment "good 'ol boyz network" needed?.....isn't it upside down on its ugly head?....haven't we found out so far that the "world's greatest democracy" has been exposed to unparalleled graft, corruption, misuse, abuse, subversive underhanded political partisanship, etc?....the same squeaky clean democracy we've tried to force feed on nations ripe with political corruption?...kinda like the "pot calling the kettle black"?.....so now we have the progressives continually on the attack to tear down this repugnant, imperialist nation, making us the world's apologists, destroying capitalism in favor of socialism to dilute the concentration of power with handouts to the "gimme crowd" so deserving.....where exactly do you stand on these issues, for or against?...just curious............