Pbomb Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 So we need 4 new starting oline men, a number one wr, a Stud mlb and 2 pass rushing de. All better than we have now? Should be pretty easy to accomplish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlan58 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 My biggest gripe to date for this season is the predictability of the plays that Daboll calls. I'm talking 100% of the time lee smith is in the game and wrs are bunched in, it is a run, and shotgun is almost 100% pass unless gore is next to allen to take the draw. There seems to be almost no attempt at disguising run vs. pass plays, and it makes the game plan that much more simple for opposing DC's to prepare for. When i'm at home telling my wife run or pass and getting it right the majority of the time... thats sad because i am a far, far cry from an NFL player or DC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 What happened? They had one bad game. Simple. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlan58 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: What happened? They had one bad game. Simple. The team Needing 4th quarter combacks vs 3 of the worst teams in the NFL would like to say hi. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Just now, Conlan58 said: The team Needing 4th quarter combacks vs 3 of the worst teams in the NFL would like to say hi. Did they win or lose those games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlan58 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: Did they win or lose those games? ...4th quarter comeback means win does it not? I'm pointing out that your post saying "it's simple" is lazy and leads me to believe you either aren't watching the same games the rest of us are, or you have failed to take off the rose colored glasses while doing so. There is a reason a lot of fans aren't confident in this team to be a lock for the playoffs even at 5-2 and with a cake schedule for 4 weeks. This team deserves every analyst that says they aren't as good as their record indicates until they prove otherwise. Defense has been figured out, and offense can't get into a rhythm... they still need 5 wins at a minimum to make the playoffs, and I'm having a hard time seeing any slam dunks left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Conlan58 said: ...4th quarter comeback means win does it not? I'm pointing out that your post saying "it's simple" is lazy and leads me to believe you either aren't watching the same games the rest of us are, or you have failed to take off the rose colored glasses while doing so. There is a reason a lot of fans aren't confident in this team to be a lock for the playoffs even at 5-2 and with a cake schedule for 4 weeks. This team deserves every analyst that says they aren't as good as their record indicates until they prove otherwise. Defense has been figured out, and offense can't get into a rhythm... they still need 5 wins at a minimum to make the playoffs, and I'm having a hard time seeing any slam dunks left. The defense had one bad game, and everyone panics. I have pointed out earlier this week that I think they should free up Allen more. I think they should play Singletary more. I agree the offense could be better. But it is astounding how many people overreact based on one game. They stunk last Sunday. Fine. Odds are they won’t this week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlan58 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: The defense had one bad game, and everyone panics. I have pointed out earlier this week that I think they should free up Allen more. I think they should play Singletary more. I agree the offense could be better. But it is astounding how many people overreact based on one game. They stunk last Sunday. Fine. Odds are they won’t this week. That's more like it! I come to this message board to see others observations and opinions (and this board is insanely good at posting breaking news). I think the bad defense stretches to the dolphins game as well... which has me concerned for facing any team going forward because you know they are going to model the dolphins and eagles until we figure out a fix for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Just now, Conlan58 said: That's more like it! I come to this message board to see others observations and opinions (and this board is insanely good at posting breaking news). I think the bad defense stretches to the dolphins game as well... which has me concerned for facing any team going forward because you know they are going to model the dolphins and eagles until we figure out a fix for it. I was sitting in a bar in Orlando watching the Fish game, and we were all like What the hell? the first half. But then Josh got hot and the D started playing. Fish game Fitz was the good Fitz for a while. I think they were rusty coming off the bye week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlan58 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 16 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I was sitting in a bar in Orlando watching the Fish game, and we were all like What the hell? the first half. But then Josh got hot and the D started playing. Fish game Fitz was the good Fitz for a while. I think they were rusty coming off the bye week. I definitely agree they looked rusty. What i really want to see is a statement win. Doesn't matter to me who they do it against, but i want to see that game where they start hot, and control the game from whistle to whistle in all 3 phases of the game in a comfortable win. Doesn't even have to be a blowout where allen throws for 300 yards and 3 tds either. Thats when i will say this team looks like they belong in the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) Nothing really has gone wrong lately per se, other than the defense hasn't played as well since coming off the bye. The offense has been pretty much the offense its been all year...they move the ball well until they get to the opponent 40 and then tend to stall a lot, whether its because of penalties, poor execution, silly playcalling, missed opportunities, turnovers, etc. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this team is near the bottom of the NFL in lowest percentage of drives inside opponent territory that results in points. They just don't do well enough in converting these to points. They are #1 in the league in Red Zone efficiency, but the problem is they have had only 17 trips inside the Red Zone. A large part of the issue is the inability to hit any deep balls that would give us a quick score from anywhere on the field or at least get us down the field without having to execute a 10 or 12 play drive. The defense will probably get fixed in short order, but the offense may stay the same. That SHOULD be enough to get us into the playoffs with the joke of a schedule we have and now a Denver team starting a rookie QB as Flacco hits IR. In addition to us likely facing Haskins this week who has been absolutely terrible. Are we some type of Super Bowl contender? Absolutely not. Could we win a playoff game? Sure, depending on how well the defense plays, I doubt the offense will be able to win it for us. Edited October 31, 2019 by matter2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 8 hours ago, Don Otreply said: A generally conservative HC and an OC who moves away from what has been working during games, or runs the ball against teams that have poor pass defenses or vis versa. Compiled with non consistent execution of plays. That’s all I got... Go Bills!!! I don’t think McD has been conservative at all this year. He’s consistently gone for it on 4th down situations...what makes him conservative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Lee Smith is a liability with penalties Levi Wallace is toast Beasley is frustrated with ball placement Edmunds is in over his head 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 9 hours ago, BillsBlue said: Good evening folks I just figured I'd point out what seems to have stood out to me personally the most while being at the Giants and eagles games and watching the them all a few times a piece. Also I'll be adding a funny story at the end about running into Fred Jackson after the eagles game in the lot outside the training facility Please don't take this wrong ... You and 1/4 of the board have done this. Overreacting doesn't help anyone. 5-2 baby. Let's make it 6-2 !!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 last week knocked the wind out of me as a fan with this team. as much as they did contend with the pats*, last week showed me they're not there yet. 5-2 doesn't mean much at this point other than, they're 5-2. I believe the way the offense has not been able to click on all cylinders it's going to create more losses then wins so finishing the season 8-8, 7-9 or possibly 9-7 looks inevitable at this point and no playoffs. they just can't rise to the level and beat the contenders. struggle to beat the non contenders. put it this way, if they come out and dominate and blow away a 1-7 team as they should sunday, it may change my line of thinking as far as the direction they're going. at this point though, I'm not real confident they can do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Just now, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: last week knocked the wind out of me as a fan with this team. as much as they did contend with the pats*, last week showed me they're not there yet. 5-2 doesn't mean much at this point other than, they're 5-2. I believe the way the offense has not been able to click on all cylinders it's going to create more losses then wins so finishing the season 8-8, 7-9 or possibly 9-7 looks inevitable at this point and no playoffs. they just can't rise to the level and beat the contenders. struggle to beat the non contenders. put it this way, if they come out and dominate and blow away a 1-7 team as they should sunday, it may change my line of thinking as far as the direction they're going. at this point though, I'm not real confident they can do that. Yeah, they laid a huge steaming pile of ? They had better learn from that mistake. In most cases you can not judge a team by its early season record and many believed the Iggles to be a bad team. The game as horrid as it was was within their grasp. Now people Don't mock or ridicule. I have seen many teams overcome 10 points in 10 minutes. Hell, I witnessed one in at the Ralph on a beautiful Sunny November day when they lost to the Raiders. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBlue Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 5 hours ago, Success said: Good thread. The offense could do a 180 with A) More Singletary, and B) More long ball. We're really missing the long ball. That's a game changer in a few ways, and we haven't seen it at all. I have hope. My thoughts exactly, I guess I'm thinking more along the lines of what it's going to take to become an upper echelon offense and an elite defense(we are very good right now but not Elite yet) but yes much more singletary and we need an open when not guy for the long ball just from watching the games vs last year allen seems tentative to put the ball right on the receiver and overthrows for a reason imo and honestly i feel like we need to work more of the 15-25 yeard throws into the game plan because he is imo a top 5 qb in the intermediate/short "deep" route area and his short route game is pretty darn good now, hes throwing with touch that he didnt show last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 44 minutes ago, Codyny13 said: I don’t think McD has been conservative at all this year. He’s consistently gone for it on 4th down situations...what makes him conservative? Williams, Taylor, Singletary, etc, his reluctance/ slowness to use players that are likely to improve the team, until it has become agonizingly apparent he should use them. Stuff like that is why I said that. Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBlue Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Conlan58 said: My biggest gripe to date for this season is the predictability of the plays that Daboll calls. I'm talking 100% of the time lee smith is in the game and wrs are bunched in, it is a run, and shotgun is almost 100% pass unless gore is next to allen to take the draw. There seems to be almost no attempt at disguising run vs. pass plays, and it makes the game plan that much more simple for opposing DC's to prepare for. When i'm at home telling my wife run or pass and getting it right the majority of the time... thats sad because i am a far, far cry from an NFL player or DC. I agree completely and on the flip side when he does disguise and we run a nicely disguised fake and throw it from a run look with allen letting it rip on a 2 or 3 step drop someone seems to always come wide open and its a huge play for good yards. we can do it we just need to get to it haha, singletary as the 3 down back makes this possible 1 hour ago, Conlan58 said: I definitely agree they looked rusty. What i really want to see is a statement win. Doesn't matter to me who they do it against, but i want to see that game where they start hot, and control the game from whistle to whistle in all 3 phases of the game in a comfortable win. Doesn't even have to be a blowout where allen throws for 300 yards and 3 tds either. Thats when i will say this team looks like they belong in the playoffs. amen i agree we havent had a real statement game yet this year, maybe the lines just need time to gel idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 9 hours ago, Pokebball said: If the line was even average, we'd be able to run the ball. We get 4.2 y/c. We are exactly average. We can run the ball. That is not the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 8 hours ago, seven&nine said: And yet the Bills have the 8th ranked rushing offense in the league. This place really is doom & gloom after losses, huh? Whoopty-doo. The Bills run game is good against bottom feeders, but it's not all that good against respectable, middle of the pack teams like the Eagles, and lousy against serious defenses. The Bills didn't lose by a FG to a great team. They got drubbed and exposed by a decent Eagles team, not a Super Bowl contending Eagles team, losing by 18 points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, SoTier said: Whoopty-doo. The Bills run game is good against bottom feeders, but it's not all that good against respectable, middle of the pack teams like the Eagles, and lousy against serious defenses. The Bills didn't lose by a FG to a great team. They got drubbed and exposed by a decent Eagles team, not a Super Bowl contending Eagles team, losing by 18 points. Did we run for almost 150 against the patriots? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Conlan58 said: I definitely agree they looked rusty. What i really want to see is a statement win. Doesn't matter to me who they do it against, but i want to see that game where they start hot, and control the game from whistle to whistle in all 3 phases of the game in a comfortable win. Doesn't even have to be a blowout where allen throws for 300 yards and 3 tds either. Thats when i will say this team looks like they belong in the playoffs. Wouldn't we all. Watching the Pats right now, everyone else in the league is playing for a participation trophy. I'm looking at this game by game, and hoping for playoffs to get this core a taste of what playoffs are like. That will help this team in 2020, when there will be a lot more help through the draft and FA. Worrying about more right now is meaningless, because, to quote Bill Murray in Meatballs-- "it just doesn't matter." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBlue Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, SoTier said: Whoopty-doo. The Bills run game is good against bottom feeders, but it's not all that good against respectable, middle of the pack teams like the Eagles, and lousy against serious defenses. The Bills didn't lose by a FG to a great team. They got drubbed and exposed by a decent Eagles team, not a Super Bowl contending Eagles team, losing by 18 points. I was so dejected after that game the only silver lining i saw was Allen and singletary as well as john brown, milano, kroft, and beasley as well as phillips and hey I'll throw shaq a bone too. This is why I think our line both o and d needs some above average players added, 2 starting caliber de's and new o tackles move ford and dawkins inside. We need to be able to blow d lines off the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Did we run for almost 150 against the patriots? Facts and SoTier often times don't travel the same road. Edited October 31, 2019 by oldmanfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: Facts and SoTier often times don't ravel the same road. I assume that was a pretty embarrassing moment for @SoTier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Did we run for almost 150 against the patriots? No, the Bills ran for 135 yards and 1 TD in 22 attempts against the Pats, 26 of those yards and the TD coming from 5 Allen runs. That means that the RBs -- ie, Frank Gore -- ran for 109 yards in 17 attempts. Even a blind squirrel can find a nut now and again. Gore hasn't come close to that production before or since the Pats game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 First of all, very few people expected this team to win more than 10 games this season. We are currently on pace (depending on the Washington game) to win 10-12. Nothing is going wrong, other than a bad game against a really good opponent. Second, the Defense has been good/great for the majority of the season. Most would consider it a Top 3 unit in the NFL. It is not a problem or a liability, and we don't need a total overhaul on our Front 7. We have literally had ONE bad game (out of seven this season), and Bills fans are suddenly screaming that our pass rushers are ineffective, our tackles are terrible/undersized, our linebackers are out of position, and our scheme is not flexible enough. This is a total overreaction, and I believe they will make the necessary adjustments against their next opponents. Our biggest problem this year has been an offense that turns the ball over, and cannot score enough points. Strangely enough, the team ranks in the middle of the league in actual yardage and moving the ball. And they are among the best in Red Zone percentage. This tells me the problem isn't ability. It's consistency. Each game we have drives that go 30-40 yards, and then suddenly stall. Each game we have 1-2 really good scoring drives, but then struggle badly for 2-3 straight drives and can't get anything going. I don't think it's a coincidence that our young QB is also wildly inconsistent. Last year he was hitting lots of downfield passes, but struggling with accuracy/efficiency on the short stuff. This year he's improved drastically on the short/medium throws, but can't hit the deep ball. In the first few games, he was playing more aggressive and passing for more yardage. But he was making stupid mistakes and throwing too many picks. Which killed too many drives. Now he's being more careful with the ball. But that is leading to more sacks and less yardage. Which is killing too many drives. We are seeing EVERYTHING we need from Josh Allen. It's just happening in spurts. If he can find balance to his conservative/aggressive play, and start putting together full games, the Bills are going to start winning more convincingly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 25 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: last week knocked the wind out of me as a fan with this team. as much as they did contend with the pats*, last week showed me they're not there yet. 5-2 doesn't mean much at this point other than, they're 5-2. I believe the way the offense has not been able to click on all cylinders it's going to create more losses then wins so finishing the season 8-8, 7-9 or possibly 9-7 looks inevitable at this point and no playoffs. they just can't rise to the level and beat the contenders. struggle to beat the non contenders. put it this way, if they come out and dominate and blow away a 1-7 team as they should sunday, it may change my line of thinking as far as the direction they're going. at this point though, I'm not real confident they can do that. I kinda feel the same way. It was only one game, but the Eagles game confirmed a lot of fears many have had about this team. The offense simply cannot score enough points to win consistently in the NFL, and certainly not enough to beat good teams. We have zero big strike ability; in order to score TDs, we need to put together long, sustained drives with no big penalties, sacks or turnovers. It only happens a couple times per game and that’s just not enough to beat good teams, like Philly. It’s the same small ball, popgun offense we’re used to seeing and it doesn’t seem like it’s ever going to change. Not only is it not going to beat good teams, it’s boring as hell to watch. The good news is that we play mostly bad teams this year, and with our defense and a little luck, this sad offense might be good enough to get to 10-6. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, SoTier said: No, the Bills ran for 135 yards and 1 TD in 22 attempts against the Pats, 26 of those yards and the TD coming from 5 Allen runs. That means that the RBs -- ie, Frank Gore -- ran for 109 yards in 17 attempts. Even a blind squirrel can find a nut now and again. Gore hasn't come close to that production before or since the Pats game. You said: the Bills' run game is "lousy against serious defenses." Those numbers indicate he ran for over 5 yards per carry. And, since we are on the topic, against the second best defense the bills played, the Titans, they ran for 4.0 yards per carry. You can't possibly think any of what you are claiming makes any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I assume that was a pretty embarrassing moment for @SoTier LOL. See above. I'll stand by what I wrote. The Bills didn't even run for 100 yards (actually 98) total against the Eagles. They piled up all of 102 rushing yards against the Titans (a good defensive team). If not for Allen's rushing production, the Bills wouldn't be ranked anywhere near the top ten in rushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, SoTier said: LOL. See above. I'll stand by what I wrote. The Bills didn't even run for 100 yards (actually 98) total against the Eagles. They piled up all of 102 rushing yards against the Titans (a good defensive team). If not for Allen's rushing production, the Bills wouldn't be ranked anywhere near the top ten in rushing. Do you know the difference between total rushing yards and ypc, and why that matters? Serious question. I just don't think you can believe what you originally wrote if you understand the difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: You said: the Bills' run game is "lousy against serious defenses." Those numbers indicate he ran for over 5 yards per carry. And, since we are on the topic, against the second best defense the bills played, the Titans, they ran for 4.0 yards per carry. You can't possibly think any of what you are claiming makes any sense. Bingo. Never let facts get in the way of opinion by some around here. When you point out the obvious, that he was mistaken, then you get the deflections. Sad, really. Want to really get him going bring up how he thinks the Pegulas only are interested in money, and how he likes to mash together all of what happened under Wilson with what happens with the Pegulas as if nothing change d in the organization. That's always good for a laugh or two. 2 minutes ago, SoTier said: LOL. See above. I'll stand by what I wrote. The Bills didn't even run for 100 yards (actually 98) total against the Eagles. They piled up all of 102 rushing yards against the Titans (a good defensive team). If not for Allen's rushing production, the Bills wouldn't be ranked anywhere near the top ten in rushing. Yeah, let's just randomly eliminate data that doesn't fit your narrative. That makes sense. I guess that means the Ravens would rank near the bottom if you take away Jackson's yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Conlan58 said: I definitely agree they looked rusty. What i really want to see is a statement win. Doesn't matter to me who they do it against, but i want to see that game where they start hot, and control the game from whistle to whistle in all 3 phases of the game in a comfortable win. Doesn't even have to be a blowout where allen throws for 300 yards and 3 tds either. Thats when i will say this team looks like they belong in the playoffs. and what if we don’t really see a “statement game”, but win 11 games And a Playoff Game? You won’t be satisfied? Then you’re welcome to jump off the bandwagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Bingo. Never let facts get in the way of opinion by some around here. When you point out the obvious, that he was mistaken, then you get the deflections. Sad, really. Want to really get him going bring up how he thinks the Pegulas only are interested in money, and how he likes to mash together all of what happened under Wilson with what happens with the Pegulas as if nothing change d in the organization. That's always good for a laugh or two. Yeah, let's just randomly eliminate data that doesn't fit your narrative. That makes sense. I guess that means the Ravens would rank near the bottom if you take away Jackson's yards? Its just, why would someone come to a message board just to complain. Don't people want to learn? I have learned soooo much about football from my time on message boards, but its because occasionally I have to acknowledge that I am wrong, and then learn why. If that is not what you are doing here, why even post? It seems like such a massive waste of time. Like, the other day someone told me Star was bad because he lined up at an angle as the 1-tech. Or a guy that doesn't understand the concept of gap assignments. That is like @SoTier levels of not understanding the game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) The more I read Bills fans (and I include myself among them) giving their analysis of what's wrong, their evaluations of players and coaches, and in particular their prescriptions for what the team needs to do differently . . . . . . . the more glad I am that they have no control over what the team does. Fans are not rational, they ride hobby horses, they ignore complexity, they focus on some things and ignore others, they react emotionally, they live in a fantasy world. Whenever I read one of these breakdowns I find at least a couple of opinions that call into question the opininator's vision, reasoning ability, or sanity. If this is the level of reasoning ability of the average American, no wonder we have the government we have. And yes, as I said, that includes me, too. Edited October 31, 2019 by Dr. K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBlue Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dr. K said: The more I read Bills fans (and I include myself among them) giving their analysis of what's wrong, their evaluations of players and coaches, and in particular their prescriptions for what the team needs to do differently . . . . . . . the more glad I am that they have no control over what the team does. Fans are not rational, they ride hobby horses, they ignore complexity, they focus on some things and ignore others, they react emotionally, they live in a fantasy world. Whenever I read one of these breakdowns I find at least a couple of opinions that call into question the opininator's ability vision, reasoning ability, or sanity. If this is the level of reasoning ability of the average American, no wonder we have the government we have. And yes, as I said, that includes me, too. I'm just stating what I see when I watch the games in person and on the TV, my opinion may be wrong it may be right but I'm totally sane and I'm calling out what I see as holding the team back. I think we're heading in the right direction and are a handful of above average players away from being real sb contenders. That's my take and I think Beane and co make it right this off-season and draft just my 2 cents. Yes there's a lot to be positive about and these are my only gripes with the roster and play calling etc. I could make a whole post about what I like and see as awesome but that stuff is obvious to everyone. I gave my spin on things and what seems to need Improvement, also I'm not counting out that hey maybe the line gels a bit more on o and d. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, BillsBlue said: I'm just stating what I see when I watch the games in person and on the TV, my opinion may be wrong it may be right but I'm totally sane and I'm calling out what I see as holding the team back. I think we're heading in the right direction and are a handful of above average players away from being real sb contenders. That's my take and I think Beane and co make it right this off-season and draft just my 2 cents. Yes there's a lot to be positive about and these are my only gripes with the roster and play calling etc. I could make a whole post about what I like and see as awesome but that stuff is obvious to everyone. I gave my spin on things and what seems to need Improvement, also I'm not counting out that hey maybe the line gels a bit more on o and d. I wasn't meaning to single you out. You may be right about everything you say. I thought it was funny, after the Eagles game, reading all the hysterical pronouncements: the Bills needed to run more, they needed to forget running and pass more, they needed to throw the long ball, they needed to get rid of Haushka, they needed to get AJ Green, they needed to get Trent Williams, they needed to fire Dabol, they don''t care about scoring points . . . etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 33 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Its just, why would someone come to a message board just to complain. Don't people want to learn? I have learned soooo much about football from my time on message boards, but its because occasionally I have to acknowledge that I am wrong, and then learn why. If that is not what you are doing here, why even post? It seems like such a massive waste of time. Like, the other day someone told me Star was bad because he lined up at an angle as the 1-tech. Or a guy that doesn't understand the concept of gap assignments. That is like @SoTier levels of not understanding the game. Social media is full of minds that think the world operates in black or white and there are no shades of grey, when in reality everything operates in shades of grey. Aren’t I thoughtful ? ???? Go Bills!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 i was losing my ish watching the philly game. what i realize now after look back over some stuff, the D really didn't show up for the second half, was solid for the most part in the first half. the O was a tire fire all day. motor might as well not be on the team even tho he's shown ability as our best offensive weapon, and we very seldom fool the d unless we are in the red zone. penalties are our biggest issue tho. pre snap stuff, sloppy holding when it isn't even a big impact on the play, just kills us. i really think we aren't doing things smartly enough as a coaching staff. not being good in the 3rd quarter shows a lack of adjustments, and on O we have everything set up to pass, we are like top 3 in terms of % plays which are passes/drop backs. between qb and WRs (and pass blocking, but less so) we just aren't good enough at it and the results show it. the players need to execute better obviously, but offensively we need to get the ship running right and in the right direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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